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I'm really liking some of the PvZ's I've recently seen
perhaps there is hope for the matchup yet
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Did they just accidentally show Sase typign in his password? :/
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On May 28 2012 05:07 Braric wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:03 ntssauce wrote:On May 28 2012 05:01 Clafou wrote:
Ok... I'm Protoss... But thins archon toiletAnd Protoss is getting ridiculous. My 2 cents. :p my 2 cents Spread your units and Zerg severely punishes any sort of heavy reliance on the archon toilet, it really theoretically never should work assuming the Zerg isn't caught off guard. Sadly tons of top end Zergs still fall to it, nothing to do with "imbalance"
I'm terran
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I love you no matter what happens SaSe!! <3 <3
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Thanks for summarizing the Stephano vs Parting match guys, appreciate it.
Epic PvZ match, but jeeze, I have no idea how Protoss would be able to fight against Infestor/Broodlord without the Mothership.
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On May 28 2012 05:04 ArnaudF wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:03 xrapture wrote:Before all you Stephano fanboys get too overboard, just know Stephano's winrate vs Koreans is still sub 50% and the only "omfg he just beat Code S player!!!!" happens when he plays a zvp and does the same all in every game  All in?
Yeah, nothing on three bases with 60+ workers can ever be "all-in."
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I think those two matches were the top 4 players left, unfortunate they all had to play in the quarters.
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On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.
Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.
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On May 28 2012 05:06 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:05 MuseMike wrote:
PvZ is quickly turning into rush to mothership and infestor broodlord. As opposed to all-ins and timing attacks? I'd take the mommaship and infestor/bls over X-gate timings and roach/ling all-ins.
The excitement will wear off when you realize that the Zerg has to be super patient and slow push with spines and spread BLs for the win. Protoss has to land a vortex. It comes down to one spell. Most Zerg/Protoss players hate late game PvZ because it is very boring for them.
Edit: Squirtle even said Violet would have won had he been more patient.
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On May 28 2012 05:08 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Did they just accidentally show Sase typign in his password? :/
"accidentally"
gogo sase!
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On May 28 2012 05:07 WerderBremen wrote:
Anyone else having issues with async video/audio on day9 stream?
change between the quality of the stream... it refreshes and resyncs it
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Why aren't there results in the OP?
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On May 28 2012 05:08 najreteip wrote:
I'm really liking some of the PvZ's I've recently seen
perhaps there is hope for the matchup yet
Startale protoss players are our only hope.
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On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end. Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.
he's not going to code S next season.
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On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.
No we didnt. Naniwa never won anything he allmost lost vs every korean he meet. Stephano is the opposite look at this 2012 year its insane.
Anyway i have had enough dealign with you haters and downers enjoy the game and may the best zerg win!
On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end. Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.
lol How in god name did you manage getting 7k post being so stupide? Wtf do you think he has been doing for allmost a year ?
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The "hat protoss"? Reminds of another absurd nickname: the "baleen whale terran".
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On May 28 2012 05:07 SpiffD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end. TIL: Making it to RO4 in GSL is failing.
He was defeated in RO8. And he did say that Naniwa repeatedly failed, which is true. Naniwa lost first round of code A three times. Foreigner hype took a big hit with those losses. Naniwa having success now, 6+ months later, does not really change that.
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On May 28 2012 05:09 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN? They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan. Making units as Zerg is all in. Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in. lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category. Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end. Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up. he's not going to code S next season.
... He turned down the invite? :O
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I think I would prefer to see Sase vs Stephano than MC vs Stephano because MC is easy to be figured out. Just hold the all ins. His last weeks record vs zergs is not good either.
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