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I wasn't paying close attention to the game, but what's all this talk about Jaedong not having his units up fast enough? I thought his ovies scouted Lizzy's base pretty thoroughly and knew Lizzy was going for a 3rd rather than 2-base pressure. Or did I miss something?
Oh no, it is the reverse. People where hyping that he potentially was a bit faster than the best foreign zerg who likes to do that 12 min max roach build.
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I expect BW scrub-turned-SC2 specialists like Lizzy to die out soon by the second half of the season, where the BW superstars will regain their throne.
These are some exciting times my friends...
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On May 27 2012 18:20 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote: I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today. This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome). Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too. Which is what they are prepaing him for to get over by playing him in both.
Right..forgive me its 5 am haha i'm going full retard logic here.
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On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote: I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today. This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome). Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too.
Lizzy practice SC2 throughout season 1 when Flash was winning BW games every week. So he actually has more experience. You can argue he lacks TV time, but he's much more experienced than Flash in SC2.
Also, the last time Flash played a zerg, he died the exact same way that Lizzy did this game. Flash played a macro game, letting the zerg know that no pressure's coming and power drone... then get overrun by a massive zerg army.
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On May 27 2012 18:21 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 18:20 blade55555 wrote:On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote: I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today. This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome). Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too. Which is what they are prepaing him for to get over by playing him in both. Right..forgive me its 5 am haha i'm going full retard logic here.
lol no biggy the dedication matters :D
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So has anyone else noticed that Flash likes his tanks unsieged. To me this is kinda interesting to see, as most progamers tend to hit the siege button asap when they see enemies, whether it's too late of a siege or not. Kinda cool to see Flash calmly just leave this tanks unsieged in smaller engagements.
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On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote: I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.
On another note, I'm surprised we haven't seen this kind of thing more often in Proleague so far. Against relatively inexperienced opponents, powerful strats which are easier to execute than defend (like 1/1/1, Stephano roaches, 7 gate blink all-in etc) should have a pretty high success rate, because these guys obviously have the micro to pull them off. I agree ! Bw players don't make any colossus and also never allin in sc2, it's like they were told to make the game look good :p When PL started I was really afraid that the sc2 part would just be an allin fest...and it isn't. Great day anyway :=)
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I love KT, but it's good to see Jaedong winning a game. It really sucked to see him lose, and people were kind of saying how he wasn't as good at SCII. Well, suck it.
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On May 27 2012 18:43 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote: I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.
On another note, I'm surprised we haven't seen this kind of thing more often in Proleague so far. Against relatively inexperienced opponents, powerful strats which are easier to execute than defend (like 1/1/1, Stephano roaches, 7 gate blink all-in etc) should have a pretty high success rate, because these guys obviously have the micro to pull them off. I agree ! Bw players don't make any colossus and also never allin in sc2, it's like they were told to make the game look good :p When PL started I was really afraid that the sc2 part would just be an allin fest...and it isn't. Great day anyway :=)
? Many PvZ's have been 2 base all ins, there were cheese games, several Protoss players made collossus...
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his creep spread was pretty good
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So glad to see Jaedong win
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On May 27 2012 19:03 Zealously wrote: I love KT, but it's good to see Jaedong winning a game. It really sucked to see him lose, and people were kind of saying how he wasn't as good at SCII. Well, suck it. Ya he stepped it up definitley. The best part being that he lost the first match then came back in the ace unphased and rolled through the toss for that first SC2 win. The mark of a champ at heart.
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Holy crap, Jaedongs ace game was buriful! Flash also looked good today, awesome :D.
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Are there no english casted vods of these games? Also, maybe HD or atleast above 480p?
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is there any way to find the pl vods quickly? and are there hd vods somewhere?
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-_- how do we not have vods..
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
are the interviews gonna be translated? I wanna see what JD said about his play.
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On May 27 2012 21:20 GeForceFX wrote: -_- how do we not have vods..
Ummm ESportsTV uploaded it almost immediately, like 1 min after the game finished.
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