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Rasmudd
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden127 Posts
May 27 2012 09:21 GMT
#781

I wasn't paying close attention to the game, but what's all this talk about Jaedong not having his units up fast enough? I thought his ovies scouted Lizzy's base pretty thoroughly and knew Lizzy was going for a 3rd rather than 2-base pressure. Or did I miss something?


Oh no, it is the reverse. People where hyping that he potentially was a bit faster than the best foreign zerg who likes to do that 12 min max roach build.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
May 27 2012 09:21 GMT
#782
I expect BW scrub-turned-SC2 specialists like Lizzy to die out soon by the second half of the season, where the BW superstars will regain their throne.

These are some exciting times my friends...
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 27 2012 09:21 GMT
#783
On May 27 2012 18:20 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote:
I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.

This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome).


Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too.


Which is what they are prepaing him for to get over by playing him in both.


Right..forgive me its 5 am haha i'm going full retard logic here.
The Notorious Winkles
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 27 2012 09:23 GMT
#784
On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote:
I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.

This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome).


Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too.


Lizzy practice SC2 throughout season 1 when Flash was winning BW games every week. So he actually has more experience. You can argue he lacks TV time, but he's much more experienced than Flash in SC2.

Also, the last time Flash played a zerg, he died the exact same way that Lizzy did this game. Flash played a macro game, letting the zerg know that no pressure's coming and power drone... then get overrun by a massive zerg army.
Meh
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 27 2012 09:25 GMT
#785
On May 27 2012 18:21 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 18:20 blade55555 wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:18 rysecake wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:17 oBlade wrote:
On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote:
I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.

This doesn't make sense, Jaedong was a rookie once too. The real ace isn't the biggest name you have, it's your best player. If you think it's Lizzy you send him so you have the best chance to win. Also, sending rookies early in the season is the best time to give them experience (the Killer Oz syndrome).


Your best player may not always have the mental strength and nerves to go for the ace match though. Experience matters too.


Which is what they are prepaing him for to get over by playing him in both.


Right..forgive me its 5 am haha i'm going full retard logic here.


lol no biggy the dedication matters :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
May 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#786
So has anyone else noticed that Flash likes his tanks unsieged. To me this is kinda interesting to see, as most progamers tend to hit the siege button asap when they see enemies, whether it's too late of a siege or not. Kinda cool to see Flash calmly just leave this tanks unsieged in smaller engagements.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 27 2012 09:43 GMT
#787
On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote:
I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.

On another note, I'm surprised we haven't seen this kind of thing more often in Proleague so far. Against relatively inexperienced opponents, powerful strats which are easier to execute than defend (like 1/1/1, Stephano roaches, 7 gate blink all-in etc) should have a pretty high success rate, because these guys obviously have the micro to pull them off.

I agree ! Bw players don't make any colossus and also never allin in sc2, it's like they were told to make the game look good :p
When PL started I was really afraid that the sc2 part would just be an allin fest...and it isn't. Great day anyway :=)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#788
I love KT, but it's good to see Jaedong winning a game. It really sucked to see him lose, and people were kind of saying how he wasn't as good at SCII. Well, suck it.
AdministratorBreak the chains
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
May 27 2012 10:03 GMT
#789
On May 27 2012 18:43 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 18:15 FuRong wrote:
I'm glad that Lizzy got done early on in the season. I guess KT was relying on him to close out matches at least for the first half of the season, but now they're gonna have to rethink that. The spectators want to see bigname clashes, not TBLS vs rookies, so I hope we see more teams willing to send out their real ace like Team8 did today.

On another note, I'm surprised we haven't seen this kind of thing more often in Proleague so far. Against relatively inexperienced opponents, powerful strats which are easier to execute than defend (like 1/1/1, Stephano roaches, 7 gate blink all-in etc) should have a pretty high success rate, because these guys obviously have the micro to pull them off.

I agree ! Bw players don't make any colossus and also never allin in sc2, it's like they were told to make the game look good :p
When PL started I was really afraid that the sc2 part would just be an allin fest...and it isn't. Great day anyway :=)


? Many PvZ's have been 2 base all ins, there were cheese games, several Protoss players made collossus...
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 27 2012 10:09 GMT
#790
Is it over for today?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 27 2012 10:10 GMT
#791
his creep spread was pretty good
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
May 27 2012 10:45 GMT
#792
So glad to see Jaedong win
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 27 2012 11:00 GMT
#793
On May 27 2012 19:03 Zealously wrote:
I love KT, but it's good to see Jaedong winning a game. It really sucked to see him lose, and people were kind of saying how he wasn't as good at SCII. Well, suck it.

Ya he stepped it up definitley. The best part being that he lost the first match then came back in the ace unphased and rolled through the toss for that first SC2 win. The mark of a champ at heart.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 11:30 GMT
#794
Holy crap, Jaedongs ace game was buriful! Flash also looked good today, awesome :D.
odeSSa
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden198 Posts
May 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#795
Are there no english casted vods of these games? Also, maybe HD or atleast above 480p?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 27 2012 12:06 GMT
#796
is there any way to find the pl vods quickly? and are there hd vods somewhere?
GeForceFX
Profile Joined June 2010
Lithuania101 Posts
May 27 2012 12:20 GMT
#797
-_- how do we not have vods..
"My biggest rival is myself" - Nada
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
May 27 2012 12:20 GMT
#798
are the interviews gonna be translated? I wanna see what JD said about his play.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 27 2012 12:25 GMT
#799
On May 27 2012 21:20 GeForceFX wrote:
-_- how do we not have vods..


Ummm ESportsTV uploaded it almost immediately, like 1 min after the game finished.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Exia0276
Profile Joined January 2012
Hong Kong62 Posts
May 27 2012 12:26 GMT
#800
On May 27 2012 21:06 Tsubbi wrote:
is there any way to find the pl vods quickly? and are there hd vods somewhere?


http://www.youtube.com/esportstv
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