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Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 27 2012 08:15 GMT
#321
On May 27 2012 17:15 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 17:15 pdd wrote:
Was that a Flash 14CC?

of course.

Didn't see that one coming at all!
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 27 2012 08:15 GMT
#322
On May 27 2012 17:12 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 17:11 Ribbon wrote:
So, TBLS is 0-5 in SC2, now?


By.Sun > Jaedong
Effort > Flash
Zero > Stork
hero > Bisu
Crazy-Hydra > Jaedong

So yes.


That's probably because TBLS trained BW harder until very recently. And Effort was probably playing SC2 a lot during his BW break.
ॐ
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 27 2012 08:16 GMT
#323
this wont be pretty i hope baby doesnt crush flash but..... i think flash is gonna be crushed....

hope im wrong
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
May 27 2012 08:16 GMT
#324
Haha CC first, Flash you're a baller.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#325
Regarding the OGN production: They really need the production tab on most of the times. It's just such a key component of SC2 broadcasts.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
May 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#326
People are nuts saying JD was way ahead. Or else they're just clueless about ZvZ. When Jaedong's mutas were taking out CH's third, CH was already massing infestors. When CH had rebuilt his third and JD was just starting to tech up to infestor, CH already had 8 infestors out. That is a ridiculous advantage.

All JD did was deny the third and kill some ovies. In exchange for what? 1K+ in gas? CH dumped all that in infestors instead, so when the fight actually came, he had enough energy to spit out 30-40 infested terrans and fungal AND had a much higher hydra count.

JD did some good moves with the queen sniping and trapping that initial roach pressure with mass ling, but going muta was a horrible mistake. Muta along with double upgrades along with roach tunneling claws was just suicide. That's way too much gas being spent on shit that's not infestors. Infestors > all in ZvZ. Simple as that.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#327
On May 27 2012 17:17 pdd wrote:
Regarding the OGN production: They really need the production tab on most of the times. It's just such a key component of SC2 broadcasts.


I kind of like only sometimes having it.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#328
combat shield timing attack lol
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#329
Weird attack by Baby..
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#330
wtf is that attack from baby?
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#331
Part of having good decisions in games is simply remembering past failures and not repeating them. This is still a learning experience. The only relevant thing to me is comparing where they are at after a month or two compared to what the current top SC 2 pros were after the same time frame. It's a trajectory thing, IMO (just started myself, so dunno, though).
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#332
flash saying fuck dem tanks mang
The Notorious Winkles
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#333
On May 27 2012 17:17 StorkHwaiting wrote:
People are nuts saying JD was way ahead. Or else they're just clueless about ZvZ. When Jaedong's mutas were taking out CH's third, CH was already massing infestors. When CH had rebuilt his third and JD was just starting to tech up to infestor, CH already had 8 infestors out. That is a ridiculous advantage.

All JD did was deny the third and kill some ovies. In exchange for what? 1K+ in gas? CH dumped all that in infestors instead, so when the fight actually came, he had enough energy to spit out 30-40 infested terrans and fungal AND had a much higher hydra count.

JD did some good moves with the queen sniping and trapping that initial roach pressure with mass ling, but going muta was a horrible mistake. Muta along with double upgrades along with roach tunneling claws was just suicide. That's way too much gas being spent on shit that's not infestors. Infestors > all in ZvZ. Simple as that.


JD had 3 bases and should have had faster gasses to get out way more infestors with more gas but he was slow on his gasses

i think any zerg would preferr to be in jaedongs position. are there master zergs here who disagree with me (are you a master zerg? if so i guess i eat crow)


i mean i think jaedong was just confused and didnt know the most powerful ways to act off his advantage but he was clearly extremely ahead
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
May 27 2012 08:20 GMT
#334
Flash still doing this combat shield less like vs Kawaii xD
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
May 27 2012 08:20 GMT
#335
because he noticed his opponent has no combat, and he does. combat shield makes a very large difference in early-mid game situations, tons of players would have made that same decision to act, probably me as well.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 27 2012 08:20 GMT
#336
Flash is using weird timings, this build he is doing flat out dies to banshee play, too slow combat shields, factory too fast, 3rd and 4th gases also too fast, but everything lines up nicely otherwise.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 27 2012 08:21 GMT
#337
On May 27 2012 17:20 IshinShishi wrote:
Flash is using weird timings, this build he is doing flat out dies to banshee play, too slow combat shields, factory too fast, 3rd and 4th gases also too fast, but everything lines up nicely otherwise.


I don't think he would be doing this if he scouted banshees lol.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#338
Flash's macro is spot on this game.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
May 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#339
Flash mashing that t button pretty often
I have no quote!
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 08:22:56
May 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#340
Flash loves his medivacs like MKP.

Also he loves this build.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
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