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BBMorti
Denmark242 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
5 banelings would have made a difference. any number of burrow banelings. he can't afford scans. Once a terran is on 3+ bases, killing SCVs without killing an army isn't actually a good thing. Just imagine how that would go if nerchio was better at keeping infestors alive. or at least burrow them before losing them so he needs to use another scan. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On June 06 2012 08:32 mememolly wrote: nerchio's constant runbys and walking drones around to the constant expanding wasn't sloppy His engagements during the midgame were pretty sloppy tho. :/ Kas army was huge as hell, but still. I feel Ultra tech was kind of late. maxout timing should not hit before Hive tech with the new zerg rush to hive style. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On June 06 2012 08:38 mememolly wrote: I think he should have gone mass infestor with lings as opposed to ultras, maybe like 2 or 3 ultras, but he needed to counter Terrans cost effectiveness and penchant for rines in those situations with Zerg's only cost effective unit, the infestor Queens are pretty damn cost efficient if you ask me, concidering how much they do for 150 minerals. :p edit : I feel like Kas would have been better in these engagement if he started producing Thors like Polt does. having 2 or 3 thors engaging high corruptor count is very good. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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neocron
United Kingdom505 Posts
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote: you obviously dont know shit -- gj sleep Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS. And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now. --gj illusion XD | ||
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Avicularia
540 Posts
I would really like to see him playing full time. Best ZvZ outside of korea, one of the best ZvT so just after fixing his ZvP he should be similar to Stephano level. (Even tho Nerchio won 2-0 with HerO on Homestory Cup IV, so it's not always that bad  ) | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote: Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS. And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now. --gj illusion XD lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+. Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans. Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote: lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+. Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans. Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash. you just named the 4 best foreigners in my list  | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote: lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+. Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans. Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash. He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On June 06 2012 10:11 naux wrote: He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true. are you stupid? or did you just not read my post? where did I even once mention Koreans? I excluded players like Violet and Select. And once again you ignore Huk, (NA player better than almost every European). And do you follow the scene at all? You know Illusion beat 3 Code S players at IPL 4, and Ganzi at Red bull lan. That's 4 Code S players he beat and he has "no shot at Code A"? Ok... | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On June 06 2012 11:25 xrapture wrote: are you stupid? or did you just not read my post? where did I even once mention Koreans? I excluded players like Violet and Select. And once again you ignore Huk, (NA player better than almost every European). And do you follow the scene at all? You know Illusion beat 3 Code S players at IPL 4, and Ganzi at Red bull lan. That's 4 Code S players he beat and he has "no shot at Code A"? Ok... I think you're the idiot. I mentioned NA players then you start talking about Naniwa and Stephano? Are you stupid? he beat 3 Code S players at IPL? So what? Beats them once and he i s considered to be Code A material...? IdrA beat MVP so IdrA is consider one of the best in the world right, from your logic. I think you are just blind, and to ignorant to realize it. Good job you mention Huk, did you not read what i wrote? Why dont you read the whole argument before you get your panties in a bunch alright? And you are picking 1 PLAYER ------ 1 PLAYER OUT OF THE WHOLE NA SCENE, and SAYING THIS ONE PLAYER, is the SAVIOR of the NA SCENE.. like shut up its a friendly debate whats up with the name calling idiot. and i would still pick 5 code a qualifying players then the top 5 of the NA GM ladder. Name me 5 NA players who are code a material. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4756 Posts
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garista
Germany165 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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o)_Saurus
Germany260 Posts
On June 06 2012 11:49 naux wrote: I think you're the idiot. I mentioned NA players then you start talking about Naniwa and Stephano? Are you stupid? he beat 3 Code S players at IPL? So what? Beats them once and he i s considered to be Code A material...? IdrA beat MVP so IdrA is consider one of the best in the world right, from your logic. I think you are just blind, and to ignorant to realize it. Good job you mention Huk, did you not read what i wrote? Why dont you read the whole argument before you get your panties in a bunch alright? And you are picking 1 PLAYER ------ 1 PLAYER OUT OF THE WHOLE NA SCENE, and SAYING THIS ONE PLAYER, is the SAVIOR of the NA SCENE.. like shut up its a friendly debate whats up with the name calling idiot. and i would still pick 5 code a qualifying players then the top 5 of the NA GM ladder. Name me 5 NA players who are code a material. He can't because beside HuK there is no one at that level. I mean just look at NASL. Huk and TT1 are performing quite well - afterwards you have EVERY NA player ranked #6 or below in their respective group. Out of the 20 best foreigners are like 18 europeans. Counting single bo3 wins to justify the rating as "Code A'ish" is so stupid... Nearly every europeans player has beaten a good korean at one point. Cloud won against MC, Goody against MMA and Nestea, Grubby against OZ and Ryung (and many others), Stephano against everyone, Tefel against Select, Socke nearly against DRG, Delphi against Marineking, Thorzain speaks for itself... and the list goes on and on. AND i don't count everyone of the above players as a possible Code A candidate -_- edit/ but seriously I didn't intend to start this stupid discussion again... I was in first instance just really sad that we won't see an unknown NA player @HSC. Because for the average european NA pro-scene is often quite unknown. Hopefully Take invites one or another pro to come over. Would really like to see for example ranged or theognis because I barely heard about them until now. | ||
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