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BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
June 05 2012 23:32 GMT
#501
Nerchio played far better, baffling game overall.. o_O
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 23:34:25
June 05 2012 23:33 GMT
#502
javla terran!

5 banelings would have made a difference.


any number of burrow banelings. he can't afford scans.

Once a terran is on 3+ bases, killing SCVs without killing an army isn't actually a good thing.

Just imagine how that would go if nerchio was better at keeping infestors alive. or at least burrow them before losing them so he needs to use another scan.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
June 05 2012 23:34 GMT
#503
I hope both of them will be at HSC5!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 05 2012 23:34 GMT
#504
On June 06 2012 08:32 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:31 stardog wrote:
sloppy but nice to watch I guess everyone is very tired


nerchio's constant runbys and walking drones around to the constant expanding wasn't sloppy


His engagements during the midgame were pretty sloppy tho. :/
Kas army was huge as hell, but still. I feel Ultra tech was kind of late. maxout timing should not hit before Hive tech with the new zerg rush to hive style.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 05 2012 23:38 GMT
#505
I think he should have gone mass infestor with lings as opposed to ultras, maybe like 2 or 3 ultras, but he needed to counter Terrans cost effectiveness and penchant for rines in those situations with Zerg's only cost effective unit, the infestor
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 05 2012 23:41 GMT
#506
Nerchio never got the Ultralisk armor upgrade in that game btw, would have made some difference vs the mostly marine composition.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 23:52:16
June 05 2012 23:41 GMT
#507
On June 06 2012 08:38 mememolly wrote:
I think he should have gone mass infestor with lings as opposed to ultras, maybe like 2 or 3 ultras, but he needed to counter Terrans cost effectiveness and penchant for rines in those situations with Zerg's only cost effective unit, the infestor


Queens are pretty damn cost efficient if you ask me, concidering how much they do for 150 minerals. :p

edit : I feel like Kas would have been better in these engagement if he started producing Thors like Polt does. having 2 or 3 thors engaging high corruptor count is very good.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
June 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#508
Nerchio is such a fucking beast, sick good series!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
neocron
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom505 Posts
June 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#509
Grubby hiding in the back
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
June 05 2012 23:59 GMT
#510
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
June 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#511
Nerchio played by far better, I've never seen better ling runbys. I just don't like that he gives away infestors too easly, and he shouldn't let Kas get back to game at g3.
I would really like to see him playing full time. Best ZvZ outside of korea, one of the best ZvT so just after fixing his ZvP he should be similar to Stephano level. (Even tho Nerchio won 2-0 with HerO on Homestory Cup IV, so it's not always that bad)
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
June 06 2012 00:23 GMT
#512
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 06 2012 01:08 GMT
#513
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.



you just named the 4 best foreigners in my list
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
June 06 2012 01:11 GMT
#514
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.


He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out

I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
June 06 2012 02:25 GMT
#515
On June 06 2012 10:11 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.


He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out

I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true.


are you stupid? or did you just not read my post? where did I even once mention Koreans? I excluded players like Violet and Select. And once again you ignore Huk, (NA player better than almost every European). And do you follow the scene at all? You know Illusion beat 3 Code S players at IPL 4, and Ganzi at Red bull lan. That's 4 Code S players he beat and he has "no shot at Code A"?

Ok...
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 02:51:32
June 06 2012 02:49 GMT
#516
On June 06 2012 11:25 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 10:11 naux wrote:
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.


He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out

I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true.


are you stupid? or did you just not read my post? where did I even once mention Koreans? I excluded players like Violet and Select. And once again you ignore Huk, (NA player better than almost every European). And do you follow the scene at all? You know Illusion beat 3 Code S players at IPL 4, and Ganzi at Red bull lan. That's 4 Code S players he beat and he has "no shot at Code A"?

Ok...


I think you're the idiot. I mentioned NA players then you start talking about Naniwa and Stephano? Are you stupid? he beat 3 Code S players at IPL? So what? Beats them once and he i s considered to be Code A material...? IdrA beat MVP so IdrA is consider one of the best in the world right, from your logic. I think you are just blind, and to ignorant to realize it. Good job you mention Huk, did you not read what i wrote? Why dont you read the whole argument before you get your panties in a bunch alright? And you are picking 1 PLAYER ------ 1 PLAYER OUT OF THE WHOLE NA SCENE, and SAYING THIS ONE PLAYER, is the SAVIOR of the NA SCENE.. like shut up its a friendly debate whats up with the name calling idiot. and i would still pick 5 code a qualifying players then the top 5 of the NA GM ladder.

Name me 5 NA players who are code a material.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
June 06 2012 06:19 GMT
#517
So Kas won in the end? It really hard to judge from the comments.
Pathetic Greta hater.
garista
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany165 Posts
June 06 2012 06:41 GMT
#518
Nerchio won 3:1, according to the grid here.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 06 2012 11:54 GMT
#519
gg nerchio, zergs and protoss of the scene outside of Korea really seem to be dominating... <.<
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 12:52:51
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#520
On June 06 2012 11:49 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 11:25 xrapture wrote:
On June 06 2012 10:11 naux wrote:
On June 06 2012 09:23 xrapture wrote:
On June 06 2012 08:59 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:32 QuanticIllusion wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:27 naux wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:21 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On June 02 2012 10:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
seriously there are 2 koreans who participated in NA qualifiers and both of them won one to get the spot. What the hell is wrong with the "real" american pros?
Yes there were 3-4 of the very best americans not competing but sleep and golden are at best low Code A material...

NA pros aren't Code A material? Lol..


NA pros ARE NOT Code A Material, not even close are you kidding me? I would rather walk into Code A Qualifiers grab 5 players from there then have the Top 5 NA GM players

you obviously dont know shit

-- gj sleep


Lol i know that you are good and i am not gonna deny that, but i don't think you have any chance at Code A qualifiers and you are suppose to be one of the top NA players but honestly you have no chance in the GSL Code A qualifiers. I am not saying FOREIGNERS have no chance just TOP NA PLAYERS.

And considering sleep as an NA player shows how silly you are, i use to think sleep was good but i just think his overrated by an mile now.

--gj illusion XD


lucky brackets and byes aside, not many foreigners have a chance in the Code A qualifiers. But ignore the qualifier part, if by what you mean by that is belonging in Code A then the list is very small. Huk (NA player, and a top 5 foreigner in the world-- everyone glosses over that fact for some reason), naniwa, thorzain, stephano. Thats really the list of the foreigners who without a doubt are Code A+.

Don't know why you shitting on NA so much. OFC all of EU will have more players than NA, but Huk is better than most of Europe and Illusion, idra, qxc, major, + kawaiirice can give great games (and beat) Code S koreans.

Players like Axslav, Gatored, DDE could take games off of Europeans finest and no one would bat an eyelash.


He responds to me saying "i dont know shit" and when i respond i am shitting on NA so much? lol what you want me to say things like "Top 10 NA Grandmasters are Code A Material" when there truly not? the hell? i am talking about NA players here big difference, i am talking about players born in north america not players who come from korea to play in NA ladder.... just because people like illusion plays starcraft, that he can shit on me and says what he wants because his EGO is big? chill out

I am just stating facts, not gonna lie about everything.. Yes i do believe illusion is one of the top NA players but i just dont think he has a likely chance to make it to Code A. IdrA is still one of the top NA players and is my favorite player but everyone seen what happened to him in Code S/A its the truth. People getting mad because i am saying shit thats true.


are you stupid? or did you just not read my post? where did I even once mention Koreans? I excluded players like Violet and Select. And once again you ignore Huk, (NA player better than almost every European). And do you follow the scene at all? You know Illusion beat 3 Code S players at IPL 4, and Ganzi at Red bull lan. That's 4 Code S players he beat and he has "no shot at Code A"?

Ok...


I think you're the idiot. I mentioned NA players then you start talking about Naniwa and Stephano? Are you stupid? he beat 3 Code S players at IPL? So what? Beats them once and he i s considered to be Code A material...? IdrA beat MVP so IdrA is consider one of the best in the world right, from your logic. I think you are just blind, and to ignorant to realize it. Good job you mention Huk, did you not read what i wrote? Why dont you read the whole argument before you get your panties in a bunch alright? And you are picking 1 PLAYER ------ 1 PLAYER OUT OF THE WHOLE NA SCENE, and SAYING THIS ONE PLAYER, is the SAVIOR of the NA SCENE.. like shut up its a friendly debate whats up with the name calling idiot. and i would still pick 5 code a qualifying players then the top 5 of the NA GM ladder.

Name me 5 NA players who are code a material.



He can't because beside HuK there is no one at that level.
I mean just look at NASL. Huk and TT1 are performing quite well - afterwards you have EVERY NA player ranked #6 or below in their respective group.
Out of the 20 best foreigners are like 18 europeans. Counting single bo3 wins to justify the rating as "Code A'ish" is so stupid... Nearly every europeans player has beaten a good korean at one point.

Cloud won against MC, Goody against MMA and Nestea, Grubby against OZ and Ryung (and many others), Stephano against everyone, Tefel against Select, Socke nearly against DRG, Delphi against Marineking, Thorzain speaks for itself... and the list goes on and on.
AND i don't count everyone of the above players as a possible Code A candidate -_-


edit/ but seriously I didn't intend to start this stupid discussion again... I was in first instance just really sad that we won't see an unknown NA player @HSC. Because for the average european NA pro-scene is often quite unknown. Hopefully Take invites one or another pro to come over. Would really like to see for example ranged or theognis because I barely heard about them until now.
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