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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
May 19 2012 11:41 GMT
#6901
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 19 2012 11:41 GMT
#6902
Amazing finals! I love Gom! Putting on this amazing show for us! MVP is such an incredibly player and person!

Thanks alot for this! Was so happy to be a part of it!



Now it's time to go before the LR thread turns to shit about balance, good vs bad games and discussion about who is the greatest player / bonjwa term as per usual
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 19 2012 11:41 GMT
#6903
I am kinda surprised that Squirtle didn't scout for cheese, knowing he was playing Mvp. Then again, few people will cheese final game.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6904
i am so freaking glad i didnt go to sleep after 3-0. Game 5 was so so epic. Game 7 was unbelievably intense
ActionpointTV
Profile Joined May 2011
60 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6905
On May 19 2012 20:36 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:31 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:28 Rulker wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:25 TheDougler wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:24 Havik_ wrote:
That was a great final, but Bonjwa? Really? Not even close.


MVP has been dominating for over a year and a half. It's certainly "close" now,

lol no he hasn't. He's been up and down. That's not bonjwa status.

4 gsls the only wcg and the only MLG he attended he won iirc

he is the closest to bonjwa even if not there yet

No. Bonjwa is a full year of domination. No falling off. No slumps.

I love Mvp, he's my favorite player. But he is no bonjwa.


But this is rubbish, BW bonjwas had plenty of slumps during their reign. People are making the term more sacred than it ever was, with these standards half of the BW bonjwas would never have been labelled as such.


This, just be honest guys. We all know you don't want the term Bonjwa to carry over from BW to SC2.


I don't see why SC2 is so desperate to use the term bonjwa.

I don't see why BW fans are so desperate not to let anyone else use term bonjwa.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6906
I don''t really care if MVP is bonjwa or not but I am sick of people trying to make BW bonjwas looks more dominant than they actually were. It's not even close in reality.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6907
On May 19 2012 20:39 Clefairy wrote:
MVP and Squirtle are trending on Naver as well!

[image loading]

That never happens for the GSL in Korea usually.


Hmm, really? Haha awesome.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6908
On May 19 2012 20:35 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:32 Dodgin wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


It was good because you didn't know who was going to win for a good portion of the game, it only became obvious in the last few seconds.

I was entertained.

So you're saying it was good because the situation made it entertaining for a casual observer, not because it was an actual legitimate display of skill... Honestly, I'm not hating on MVP for what he did. He won, and props to him for that. I'm just saying it wasn't a legitimately good game with respect to a showcase of skill and decision making.

None of these games were..>_>
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6909
On May 19 2012 20:41 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:40 Lockitupv2 wrote:
How can one man be so based and over come all the haters?

He wont pass the Ro32.
He wont pass the Ro16
He cant beat Naniwa.
He cant beat Parting.
He cant beat Squirtle.

Haters did a lot of talking and now they are outlined in chalk.


What? There are always people rooting for either player in a match.

True, but there actually was a lot of people saying Mvp wouldn't make it to the finals. I was sceptical myself.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6910
On May 19 2012 20:30 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:29 weiliem wrote:
OMG, i forgot about the finals.... fk! what did i miss??


Cheese, etc.

Yes. Only cheese. Especially game 5.
What a player
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6911
On May 19 2012 20:39 Lightspeaker wrote:
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On May 19 2012 20:39 SkullZ9 wrote:
I can't believe protoss players are still whining when they have 3 players in the semifinals -_-


14 months since Protoss last won a GSL Code S.

2 GSL Code S wins for Protoss. With only one player. Under half the number of wins of Zerg, under a third of those of Terran. Hell, half of what MVP has managed by himself.

Terran has as many or more Code S medals in every category as Protoss and Zerg combined. And way more overall.

Last season Zerg beat Protoss in the final. This season Terran beat Protoss in the final.

Terran players: "Whaaa Protoss is OP."

lolk


I'm actually not all that unhappy with the principle of MVP getting a fourth championship because he's a great player. But it seriously bugs me when I see constant Terran whining in light of that kind of record.


A record speaks about the past and not the present. Look at the statistical racial balance in THIS GSL, rather than the curve over the past 2 years. Balance is present, records are past.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just.... silly.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6912
On May 19 2012 20:40 Lockitupv2 wrote:
How can one man be so based and over come all the haters?

He wont pass the Ro32.
He wont pass the Ro16
He cant beat Naniwa.
He cant beat Parting.
He cant beat Squirtle.

Haters did a lot of talking and now they are outlined in chalk.

Quoting because it's true and I laughed.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6913
On May 19 2012 20:40 Lockitupv2 wrote:
How can one man be so based and over come all the haters?

He wont pass the Ro32.
He wont pass the Ro16
He cant beat Naniwa.
He cant beat Parting.
He cant beat Squirtle.

Haters did a lot of talking and now they are outlined in chalk.


Controversial point....people like other players

OMG
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 11:43:03
May 19 2012 11:42 GMT
#6914
On May 19 2012 20:40 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:36 Denzil wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:31 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:28 Rulker wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:25 TheDougler wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:24 Havik_ wrote:
That was a great final, but Bonjwa? Really? Not even close.


MVP has been dominating for over a year and a half. It's certainly "close" now,

lol no he hasn't. He's been up and down. That's not bonjwa status.

4 gsls the only wcg and the only MLG he attended he won iirc

he is the closest to bonjwa even if not there yet

No. Bonjwa is a full year of domination. No falling off. No slumps.

I love Mvp, he's my favorite player. But he is no bonjwa.


But this is rubbish, BW bonjwas had plenty of slumps during their reign. People are making the term more sacred than it ever was, with these standards half of the BW bonjwas would never have been labelled as such.


This, just be honest guys. We all know you don't want the term Bonjwa to carry over from BW to SC2.


I don't see why SC2 is so desperate to use the term bonjwa.

I bet none of those who declare mvp bonjwa did watch a true one in his making


I bet half those who declare mvp bonjwa now thought he would lose to Naniwa and "Parting's awesome PvT" not long ago.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6915
On May 19 2012 20:42 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:40 Lockitupv2 wrote:
How can one man be so based and over come all the haters?

He wont pass the Ro32.
He wont pass the Ro16
He cant beat Naniwa.
He cant beat Parting.
He cant beat Squirtle.

Haters did a lot of talking and now they are outlined in chalk.


Controversial point....people like other players

OMG

Note how he was an underdog each time. This is not b-word.
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6916
On May 19 2012 20:35 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:32 Dodgin wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


It was good because you didn't know who was going to win for a good portion of the game, it only became obvious in the last few seconds.

I was entertained.

So you're saying it was good because the situation made it entertaining for a casual observer, not because it was an actual legitimate display of skill... Honestly, I'm not hating on MVP for what he did. He won, and props to him for that. I'm just saying it wasn't a legitimately good game with respect to a showcase of skill and decision making.


But Starcraft is all about context. If there is an amazing game on ladder it doesn't mean nearly as much as a moderately good game in a major tournament. As you pointed out it wasn't an amazing game in terms of skill and decision making. However it was amazingly tense.

As someone else said, it was the similar to the PL finals between Bisu and Flash (except with the races reversed).
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6917
On May 19 2012 20:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:38 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:37 Azera wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:35 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:32 Dodgin wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
[quote]

This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


It was good because you didn't know who was going to win for a good portion of the game, it only became obvious in the last few seconds.

I was entertained.

So you're saying it was good because the situation made it entertaining for a casual observer, not because it was an actual legitimate display of skill... Honestly, I'm not hating on MVP for what he did. He won, and props to him for that. I'm just saying it wasn't a legitimately good game with respect to a showcase of skill and decision making.


So you're saying it was bad because it was a coinflip?

No, but would there be anything wrong if I said that? I'm saying that it wasn't an actual good game if you looked at the game itself...


I gotta agree with Saracen here. There's not much you can really learn from watching an 11/11. I mean, there was the sweet flank, but everyone knows flanks can be sweet. It was nerve-wracking but not objectively high-quality.

Ignoring if the game was good or not, that doesn't hold though. I mean i know how to micro my MMMVG, but still I'm quite impressed with the pro players control as they micro it a lot better than me. Same can be said about 11/11, I might know how to do it, but in this case MVP did it a lot better than I would ever be able to do it.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6918
It's too bad the past 30 threads are nerds argueing over nonsensical shit, when they could spend their time enjoying what was one of the better finals in GSL.
scv1337
Profile Joined May 2012
Argentina1 Post
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6919
Yay! Best GSL finals ever! THANKS MVP for being so good!
Squirtle. sorry but the best player WON. KABOOOOM!

Winners gonna win!!! LOL
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
May 19 2012 11:43 GMT
#6920
ah shit how am I supposed to get to sleep now as hyped as I am? I gotta wake up for MLG soon...
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