• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:12
CET 20:12
KST 04:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !2Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win1Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO8 - Day 1 - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Employee Retention in Behavioral Health: Building Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1384 users

[Code S] Grand Finals 2012 GSL Season 2 - Page 342

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 340 341 342 343 344 369 Next
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6821
On May 19 2012 20:34 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?

In terms of gameplay it wasn't the greatest. But the story behind it and the intensity of putting it all on the line. It's kinda like how MKP did that SCV-marine rush vs Nestea in GSL2, only this time it was more intense. Even back then when SCV-marine rushes were easier to perform it was already intense. What more now, when proxy 2-raxes are harder to execute.


This is exactly like game 7 of the PL finals, and everyone loved the shit out of that game even though both players made lots of mistakes.

I see no difference, it was great.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6822
On May 19 2012 20:34 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?

Boxer bunker rushed 3 times in a row, and a lot of people seem to be happy about it.


Probably the only time he got hated, so no your example does not compute.
Terran & Potato Salad.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6823
On May 19 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:31 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:28 Rulker wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:25 TheDougler wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:24 Havik_ wrote:
That was a great final, but Bonjwa? Really? Not even close.


MVP has been dominating for over a year and a half. It's certainly "close" now,

lol no he hasn't. He's been up and down. That's not bonjwa status.

4 gsls the only wcg and the only MLG he attended he won iirc

he is the closest to bonjwa even if not there yet

No. Bonjwa is a full year of domination. No falling off. No slumps.

I love Mvp, he's my favorite player. But he is no bonjwa.


But this is rubbish, BW bonjwas had plenty of slumps during their reign. People are making the term more sacred than it ever was, with these standards half of the BW bonjwas would never have been labelled as such.


This, just be honest guys. We all know you don't want the term Bonjwa to carry over from BW to SC2.

man you guys are cute
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6824
On May 19 2012 20:35 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


Yes. It was all about the lead up and anticipation. The nerves and execution. The fucking jupiter sized balls to cheese in g7 of a series this intense.


The entire final game was so intense and edgy for me it was just 5 solid minutes of nerdchill.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6825
Stop saying that Mvp is a bonjwa -.-
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6826
On May 19 2012 20:33 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:33 coloursheep wrote:
Just saw this add at the top of the thread, is that Tasteless?

[image loading]


wtf lol only 1 of them is asian...?


Maybe its for asian's who want to date westerner's, I don't know?
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
May 19 2012 11:35 GMT
#6827
On May 19 2012 20:32 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


It was good because you didn't know who was going to win for a good portion of the game, it only became obvious in the last few seconds.

I was entertained.

So you're saying it was good because the situation made it entertaining for a casual observer, not because it was an actual legitimate display of skill... Honestly, I'm not hating on MVP for what he did. He won, and props to him for that. I'm just saying it wasn't a legitimately good game with respect to a showcase of skill and decision making.
HeliBadger
Profile Joined September 2011
538 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6828
Well that was good, wasn't it?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6829
This was for me the best GSL final ever. Don't let the whiners get to you, this final alone would be worth buying a ticket for, just to watch the VODs.

Peace out
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6830
People not giving to MVP a bit of bonjwa status are just afraid of using the word.
Perhaps in the future we will see even more dominant players, and MVP wont really be a bonjwa, but he definitly will be remember in the history of Starcraft 2 as the best from his time.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6831
On May 19 2012 20:35 RedTerror wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:33 Psychobabas wrote:
MVP Bonjwa for sure. What else you want him to do? He has 70%+ winrate and multiple trophies.

First Bonjwa of SC2.


Uhh, he is definately not a bonjwa.


It's definitely.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6832
On May 19 2012 20:34 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?

Boxer bunker rushed 3 times in a row, and a lot of people seem to be happy about it.

His triple bunkmer rush v YellOw is still considered legendary.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6833
hm i wonder if part of the reason why MVP cheesed last game was cus he was tired or his wrists hurt or such

or if it's more just that, since he's already a great player and has so much money for "back-up", he could risk it by doing a cheese so that, if he won, it would be really epic, and if he didn't, he could just say "oh well, good for squirtle"

or neither lol
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6834
On May 19 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:31 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:30 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:28 Rulker wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 Femari wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:25 TheDougler wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:24 Havik_ wrote:
That was a great final, but Bonjwa? Really? Not even close.


MVP has been dominating for over a year and a half. It's certainly "close" now,

lol no he hasn't. He's been up and down. That's not bonjwa status.

4 gsls the only wcg and the only MLG he attended he won iirc

he is the closest to bonjwa even if not there yet

No. Bonjwa is a full year of domination. No falling off. No slumps.

I love Mvp, he's my favorite player. But he is no bonjwa.


But this is rubbish, BW bonjwas had plenty of slumps during their reign. People are making the term more sacred than it ever was, with these standards half of the BW bonjwas would never have been labelled as such.


This, just be honest guys. We all know you don't want the term Bonjwa to carry over from BW to SC2.


I don't see why SC2 is so desperate to use the term bonjwa.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6835
On May 19 2012 20:35 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


Yes. It was all about the lead up and anticipation. The nerves and execution. The fucking jupiter sized balls to cheese in g7 of a series this intense.


You forget it's also the finals of the biggest tournament as well XD
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6836
On May 19 2012 20:35 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:33 Shmantalope wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 La1 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 Applesqt wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:19 Iatrik wrote:
The joke that are mules strike again.
So sad to see such a great final end with this unbalanced shit.

Look at game 6 where squirtle had 42 probes before mvp even had 30 scvs, races are different.


mvp cut probs for the all in, he stoped making them.. and squirtle picked a few off in pressure


Actually he didn't cut any... maybe for a couple of seconds but not enough to be suddenly down 42 to 28. All-in? He expanded before he even started the all-in and when did Squirtle pick off any? Squirtle poked up the ramp and killed some marines, then walked up and killed a marine by the bunkers and then left. Literally, no loses/no cuts, that is simply the power of chrono boost, IF you use it our your probes.


He was actually on 48 SCVs. Was hard to read because of SQ and the casters didn't have their own preview/observer screen.


38 iirc on higher definition.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6837
The final game was super intense and dramatic. MVP looked like he lost to Squirtle's epic hold, then he pulled off a sick flank and micro'd his way to victory. It was super exciting.
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6838
Sick outtro at the end, love that they do that with all the players, really makes gsl feel more like a community rather than just the top players, smart move, need more of that to compete against kespa
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6839
On May 19 2012 20:34 Sm0ker wrote:
worst gsl final ever ... no games to be like HOLY CRAP THIS IS EPIC!

better watch NASL. best games ever, even in group stages.


LMAO
Sm0ker
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania27 Posts
May 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#6840
On May 19 2012 20:35 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote:
Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic!


This



That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making

Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen.

sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN

So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good?


The fucking jupiter sized balls to cheese in g7 of a series this intense.


lol'd. what was intense?
Victory is the only truth that matters
Prev 1 340 341 342 343 344 369 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
12:00
Playoffs
Nice vs YoungYakovLIVE!
WardiTV1489
ComeBackTV 591
TaKeTV 458
IndyStarCraft 241
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 300
IndyStarCraft 241
ProTech136
JuggernautJason74
BRAT_OK 49
MindelVK 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 435
Mini 406
EffOrt 294
Dewaltoss 145
hero 94
Hyun 59
yabsab 22
Mong 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7844
qojqva5040
Dendi1386
BananaSlamJamma431
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu88
Other Games
FrodaN1397
Beastyqt769
ceh9513
Fuzer 381
ToD255
ArmadaUGS189
B2W.Neo143
Trikslyr83
mouzStarbuck67
C9.Mang057
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 13
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 30
• HerbMon 20
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV822
League of Legends
• TFBlade1222
Other Games
• imaqtpie1167
• Shiphtur197
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
5h 48m
WardiTV 2025
16h 48m
MaNa vs Gerald
TBD vs MaxPax
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs ShoWTimE
OSC
19h 48m
YoungYakov vs Mixu
ForJumy vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
The PondCast
1d 14h
WardiTV 2025
1d 17h
Cure vs Creator
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.