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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 06 2012 04:04 GMT
#161
Our procedure for requesting reschedules is that you must notify us at least 1 week in advance. Fnatic told us 2 days before, and IdrA could play the night before, but aLive had already left to Paris, therefore there was nothing we could do.

The only way we play a game after the broadcast time is if WE make an error (I.E. send a wrong time in the email or something). Otherwise, games are always played at the schedule time or 1 day earlier. We try to never play games any earlier than that.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 06 2012 04:07 GMT
#162
Great show. It occurs to me that you guys are missing production credits. Shouldn't be too hard to whip something up. After all the praise you guys have got lifting your game this season give your production crew a little love.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 06 2012 04:07 GMT
#163
On May 06 2012 13:03 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 13:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:58 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:55 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:52 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:37 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:36 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:32 Xeris wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote:
Walk over? Really?
Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?


Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.


Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable.
Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL.
No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool.
It is their job.

I kinda doubt Idra had a choice


Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part.
2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season.
I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.

This has been addressed many, many times before.

No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.


This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect.
The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra.
However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."

Wut.

So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?


Scrub together?
I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.

So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.

Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 04:11:14
May 06 2012 04:10 GMT
#164
On May 06 2012 13:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 13:03 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 13:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:58 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:55 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:52 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:37 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:36 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:32 Xeris wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote:
Walk over? Really?
Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?


Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.


Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable.
Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL.
No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool.
It is their job.

I kinda doubt Idra had a choice


Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part.
2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season.
I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.

This has been addressed many, many times before.

No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.


This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect.
The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra.
However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."

Wut.

So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?


Scrub together?
I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.

So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.

Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?


No, as a spectator I'm perfectly fine with their decision.
Either you didn't read or understand my response to Xeris's statement.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 06 2012 04:18 GMT
#165
On May 06 2012 13:10 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 13:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 13:03 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 13:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:58 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:55 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:52 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:37 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:36 MrCash wrote:
On May 06 2012 12:32 Xeris wrote:
[quote]

Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.


Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable.
Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL.
No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool.
It is their job.

I kinda doubt Idra had a choice


Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part.
2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season.
I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.

This has been addressed many, many times before.

No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.


This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect.
The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra.
However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."

Wut.

So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?


Scrub together?
I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.

So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.

Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?


No, as a spectator I'm perfectly fine with their decision.
Either you didn't read or understand my response to Xeris's statement.

I did. I don't see why it's a "bad business decision" not to discuss walkovers with players. I'm trying to figure out why you think it's bad to have standardized rules, as opposed to giving leeway to players based on the number of views they'll draw (or conversely denying a walkover to a player just because he's popular).
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 06 2012 08:54 GMT
#166
Wow, Lowely > Thorzain, I gotta watch those vods. I wasn't expecting that.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
makedajuiceboxwhet
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
May 06 2012 08:56 GMT
#167
Oh man, how cash was that Idra interview.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 06 2012 08:58 GMT
#168
Yay! Idra finally gets a win!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 09:24:02
May 06 2012 09:00 GMT
#169
Can't believe Alive did not make it... it would've been easy 150$ for him.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 06 2012 11:11 GMT
#170
Wow, Lowely is tearing it up this season. Good for him.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 06 2012 11:13 GMT
#171
LoWeLy is 4-0 currently.

Who the fuck saw that coming?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 11:19:18
May 06 2012 11:19 GMT
#172
On May 06 2012 20:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
LoWeLy is 4-0 currently.

Who the fuck saw that coming?


Not only that, he beat Ret, Select and Thorzain already. He could logically go 6-2 easily now, with aLive and Alicia left as "favourites" and Cruncher and Idra also left to face.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 06 2012 11:26 GMT
#173
When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.

Double standards.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 11:37:31
May 06 2012 11:36 GMT
#174
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote:
When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.

Double standards.


Saying that as a Stephano fan:
Stephano had 2 (or more?) no-shows before and has some haters who react badly. All the other people actually understood that he tried to play from his vacationing spot (which didnt work out). And NASL is pretty strict about their schedules, so he couldnt reschedule his match just like alive.
(also NASL reported the situation differently as in alives case - producing some bad reactions at first)
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
May 06 2012 11:39 GMT
#175
On May 06 2012 18:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
Can't believe Alive did not make it... it would've been easy 150$ for him.


He was at IronSquid getting 3k+ easy choice for me, lol.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
May 06 2012 14:57 GMT
#176
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote:
When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.

Double standards.


Well with aLive it's understandable why he couldn't play. He should've tried to reschedule earlier (need a week's notice) so that is his team's fault, presumably as aLive probably does not personally communicate with NASL.

Stephano had a right to miss the game as well, as a family vacation IMO is very important. He just should've at least given a week's notice to try and reschedule, or at the very least give a day's notice to forfeit so his opponent didn't have to be waiting for him to show up.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 06 2012 15:04 GMT
#177
On May 06 2012 17:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Yay! Idra finally gets a win!


really? idra beat alive? I've avoided the spoilers but caught your post, oh well, what a badass though beating alive, the grack is back, amazing
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 15:09:45
May 06 2012 15:08 GMT
#178
On May 06 2012 23:57 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote:
When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.

Double standards.


Well with aLive it's understandable why he couldn't play. He should've tried to reschedule earlier (need a week's notice) so that is his team's fault, presumably as aLive probably does not personally communicate with NASL.

Stephano had a right to miss the game as well, as a family vacation IMO is very important. He just should've at least given a week's notice to try and reschedule, or at the very least give a day's notice to forfeit so his opponent didn't have to be waiting for him to show up.


Please inform yourself before judging like this:
- Stephano assumed he could play during vacation, he didnt expect the internet connection to be that bad.
- After he found out, he could not play, he informed NASL 3 days before. Puma didnt wait.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5218 Posts
May 06 2012 15:48 GMT
#179
On May 07 2012 00:04 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 17:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Yay! Idra finally gets a win!


really? idra beat alive? I've avoided the spoilers but caught your post, oh well, what a badass though beating alive, the grack is back, amazing


Idra just beat MVP in TvZ so I'm sure he is doing just fine.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 06 2012 15:49 GMT
#180
On May 07 2012 00:04 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 17:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Yay! Idra finally gets a win!


really? idra beat alive? I've avoided the spoilers but caught your post, oh well, what a badass though beating alive, the grack is back, amazing


It was a walkover.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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