EPT...I'm guessing you don't have proof that Idra is better and are hoping your hearty laughs obscure the fact.
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
...I'm guessing you don't have proof that Idra is better and are hoping your hearty laughs obscure the fact. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Pretty weak how these organizations basically keep leaking results | ||
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
biGs 1-2 IdrA (time for the Fanidol to win some shit again) Mana 2-0 Machine ("I....Iam actually Machine, Iam not IdrA damnit T_T !") MorroW 1-2 Pewma ThorZain 2-1 JYP (Swedish powerhouse on fire) Acetime, baby ThorZain ?-? Peeewma (this might go either way really) | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
MaNa < Machine Morrow < PuMa ThorZain < JYP EG 3-1 mouz IdrA is far from old form, So is MaNa. MorroW always dies to some cheese or by making a big blunder even though he can play perfect 99% of the time. This match is important for EG and with a 2-1 lead I think JYP will step up and play really great against ThorZain. | ||
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zedi
165 Posts
On May 03 2012 02:48 CosmicSpiral wrote: ...I'm guessing you don't have proof that Idra is better and are hoping your hearty laughs obscure the fact. The burden of proof here kinda is on the other side >_< (I've never actually heard of this guy and after checking TLPD there's a reason for it...) | ||
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Crilath
Switzerland29 Posts
Idra will win easy i think (and hope), i like his play more and more even if it lacks consistency lately. No idea for the other 2 matches, can go either way, but i hope EG takes it. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On May 03 2012 03:19 zedi wrote: The burden of proof here kinda is on the other side >_< (I've never actually heard of this guy and after checking TLPD there's a reason for it...) Oh look, Bigs won Gamers Assembly and got second at EPS Germany Finals. So much for never hearing about this guy. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 03 2012 03:19 zedi wrote: The burden of proof here kinda is on the other side >_< (I've never actually heard of this guy and after checking TLPD there's a reason for it...) Funny that you are mentioning TLPD as a reason for never hearing of bigs, when he has about 40 points more than Idra. And like someone above me said, biggs won Gamers Assembly and got second at EPS in 2012. What exactly has Idra done this year? | ||
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Letall
Sweden384 Posts
Edit: just swtiched to 1080 p and the issue was resolved | ||
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zedi
165 Posts
On May 03 2012 03:59 Xoronius wrote: Funny that you are mentioning TLPD as a reason for never hearing of bigs, when he has about 40 points more than Idra. And like someone above me said, biggs won Gamers Assembly and got second at EPS in 2012. What exactly has Idra done this year? The points are kind of void after you compare their opponents and tournaments against each other. I don't have a single clue about those two tournaments. Those wins aren't on the same level as any of Idra's tournaments, so in my opinion you can't compare them to his showings at all. As I said, he's a fairly unheard of a player which usually means he shouldn't be the favored one. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
But his 2012 record for ZvZ is 26.7%. Granted, they were against better Zergs than biGs. I think IdrA has a shot this series, but I'm not going to say that he's the favorite. Mana vs. Machine is difficult to call, but I think Mana has the advantage in this match-up. Machine isn't at the caliber of Mana but has ZvP as his best match-up, whereas Mana is a top EU pro who has PvZ as his worst match-up. Morrow > Puma. Thorzain > JYP. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On May 02 2012 16:12 Falconblade wrote: I love Machine, but why toss him out over Demuslim/HuK? Dunno about Demuslim, but HuK doesn't play cross server. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 03 2012 04:05 zedi wrote: The points are kind of void after you compare their opponents and tournaments against each other. I don't have a single clue about those two tournaments. Those wins aren't on the same level as any of Idra's tournaments, so in my opinion you can't compare them to his showings at all. As I said, he's a fairly unheard of a player which usually means he shouldn't be the favored one. Ofc. I understand your position, but Idras results against foreigners were not that impressive either, at IEM he lost to players, bigs beat during his tournament wins. Idra won bigger tournaments, but that was quite a while ago. Fruitdealer won GSL as well and is not good anymore. He keeps losing in big tournaments and has now gone down to a point, where he needs smaller wins, to proof, that he is still a contender. Bigs has those wins, Idra has not. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
Mana 2 - 0 Machine Puma 2 - 1 Morrow Thorzain 2 - 1 JYP Puma 2 - 0 Thorzain | ||
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emis
Estonia409 Posts
On May 03 2012 02:56 DaCruise wrote: MaNa < Machine I swear I'll shave my head when this happens. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On May 03 2012 04:05 zedi wrote: The points are kind of void after you compare their opponents and tournaments against each other. I don't have a single clue about those two tournaments. Those wins aren't on the same level as any of Idra's tournaments, so in my opinion you can't compare them to his showings at all. As I said, he's a fairly unheard of a player which usually means he shouldn't be the favored one. Your argument is "Idra has lost a lot to top-tier koreans and foreigners lately, therefore he should be ranked ahead of someone who has beaten a lot of mid/top-tier foreigners lately." It doesn't take a genius to see that this line of reasoning is illogical. If you're going to favor someone in a match you should have a general idea of their skill levels; popularity will not tell you how good a player is. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On May 03 2012 04:12 TheDougler wrote: Dunno about Demuslim, but HuK doesn't play cross server. honestly... i think that machine has better chances vs mana since mana still sometimes struggles with his pvz and he is just awesome in pvt also demu is really overhyped imo... he doesn't have any real results and his play is sometimes really weird | ||
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
Mana vs Machine is kinda one-sided biGs vs Idra is ZvZ, and I'd give the edge to bigs in ZvZ right now Thorzain vs JYP is kinda one sided for Thorzain morrow vs Puma will definitely be the closer match, can't guess the winner there. Morrow can destroy Puma but Puma can do the same to Morrow, it'll depend on how they both perform and Puma needs to win this for a chance at Ace match. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:11 sVnteen wrote: honestly... i think that machine has better chances vs mana since mana still sometimes struggles with his pvz and he is just awesome in pvt also demu is really overhyped imo... he doesn't have any real results and his play is sometimes really weird + TvP is by far Demuslims worst MU. I don´t know much about Machines recent skill-level, but if ZvP is his best MU, he should have a better shot against MaNa. I mean MaNa is top-10 in international vT Elo (above MMA, MC, Nestea, Ryung [Which does not mean, he is better than them in this MU - but it does mean smth.]), while he is under 2000 vZ-Elo. | ||
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