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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On May 03 2012 13:33 FlyingDike wrote: I'm so glad Idra lost. I want him to quit SC2. I think if he wants to keep his image, quitting SC2 right now would be the best for him. Some naive people still consider him to be a top 10 foreigner even though he isn't even top 50. And I hope it won't take that much longer til his fanboys see this too. | ||
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SoulReaver306
Australia210 Posts
On May 03 2012 12:18 Shinta) wrote: I hate to bash a person so directly, but I completely disagree. After watching LZ's stream, I came up with LZ being awful at the game, nowhere near any other EG player's level, not even the second worst player, AND he's a terrible person. He has a crap personality and does not deserve to be involved in eSports. He doesn't even live at the EG house, nor does he commentate or anything. He is completely worthless to the team, and imo he doesn't even have the potential to reach the semipro level. Hope EG kicks him asap. IdrA needs an awesome Zerg practice partner, but practicing with LZ wouldn't help him at all. They have JYP and Puma, now IdrA needs a Zerg partner! biGs dominated him today =/ although I'm a biGs fan XD Idra loses zvz. Lzgamer's fault. Good to know. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
gosu mouz! | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On May 03 2012 12:18 Shinta) wrote: I hate to bash a person so directly, but I completely disagree. After watching LZ's stream, I came up with LZ being awful at the game, nowhere near any other EG player's level, not even the second worst player, AND he's a terrible person. He has a crap personality and does not deserve to be involved in eSports. He doesn't even live at the EG house, nor does he commentate or anything. He is completely worthless to the team, and imo he doesn't even have the potential to reach the semipro level. Hope EG kicks him asap. IdrA needs an awesome Zerg practice partner, but practicing with LZ wouldn't help him at all. They have JYP and Puma, now IdrA needs a Zerg partner! biGs dominated him today =/ although I'm a biGs fan XD while LZ might not be a top tier player he couldn't possibly have done worse than idra did... also..how can you possibly know that LZ is "a terrible person"? thing is you are probably another idra fanboy (most americans are) who can't stand the fact that he as the only real top tier american has fallen so far but you can't possibly blame that on LZ i mean COME ON DUDE and good job by mouz ofc beating the "best foreign team 2011" with ease Mouz FTW  | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:54 Catatonic wrote: Prettty much lost all faith in IdrA having lost to biGs... biGs is a good player so I dont see why you would lose your faith in Idra for losing to biGs, losing to livezerg when Idra was at his peak is a thousand times worse than losing to biGs. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:30 ramask2 wrote: I predict: bigs > idra (2-0) mana > machine (2-0) morrow < puma (0-2) Thorzain > JYP (2-1) Mouz takes it 3-1 can you please predict some soccer for me ? damn perfect bet | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
I remember when he had 80% in zvz :/ | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On May 03 2012 19:56 Champloo wrote: I think if he wants to keep his image, quitting SC2 right now would be the best for him. Some naive people still consider him to be a top 10 foreigner even though he isn't even top 50. And I hope it won't take that much longer til his fanboys see this too. I agree but there is much more to it than just results. Even if Idra would never get any good results any more he would probably still be worthwhile to have for his team simply because of fanbase and the attention he gets. Why quit if you can still get paid to do what you love and still have a chance at posting good results and improving your image? Maybe he would ragequit if Zergs start losing everything because of imbalance though. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:45 KalWarkov wrote: biGs 2-0 IdrA MaNa 2-0 Machine MorroW 1-2 PuMa ThorZaiN 2-1 JYP was 1 map away | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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hollabackk
118 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:15 Kevan wrote: I agree but there is much more to it than just results. Even if Idra would never get any good results any more he would probably still be worthwhile to have for his team simply because of fanbase and the attention he gets. Why quit if you can still get paid to do what you love and still have a chance at posting good results and improving your image? Maybe he would ragequit if Zergs start losing everything because of imbalance though. I just find it funny that he gets invited to sooooo many tournaments still. I mean bigs is a solid player, but he has 42% zvz. People give idra way too much credit, i don't understand all this "potential" that he has, nor do i understand why people are still rooting for him. | ||
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:44 Zorgaz wrote: IdrA just doesn't seem to improve anymore =/, wonder what's up. hes a bad player | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:38 sVnteen wrote: while LZ might not be a top tier player he couldn't possibly have done worse than idra did... also..how can you possibly know that LZ is "a terrible person"? thing is you are probably another idra fanboy (most americans are) who can't stand the fact that he as the only real top tier american has fallen so far but you can't possibly blame that on LZ i mean COME ON DUDE and good job by mouz ofc beating the "best foreign team 2011" with ease Mouz FTW First off, watch his stream. I don't need to elaborate on what I said, he's the one who makes it obvious. Secondly, I'm not an IdrA fan. I even stated that I'm a biGs fan... Third, I don't blame LZ for IdrA losing? How could you make such a collaboration?... If you read carefully, I said that IdrA needs an awesome Zerg practice partner, and that if he were to practice with LZ, he wouldn't benefit. Nowhere there does it say that IdrA did practice with LZ and that that practice somehow hurt him. It's annoying that you don't even read my comment correctly, and then you try to respond without having known any useful information to respond with. IdrA is has a big personality. Everyone knows who he is, and if he changes now, it would change a lot of different things. He's also a very manageable person, and is well mannered a lot of the time. He's ill tempered, and that's why people bash him. LZ is ill tempered, but he has no right to be. He has little knowledge of the game, as watching his stream, you can see that he does the wrong strategies with what he's scouted, he doesn't hotkey vital units, he misses silly things like first 5 minute drone production, etc, and yet he calls his opponents bad players from some previous encounter they've had. He bashes opponents and even his own fans on stream, and it makes no sense. I didn't have anything against LZ until a lot of people I knew told me about him, then I saw it for myself. May I remind you that this immature image comes with 0 accomplishments and 0 contribution. His tiny time spent as a personality doesn't count for anything. Back to the topic though, I wish MorroW would have won >< Not a huge MorroW fan but I've been biased against JYP and PuMa since they left TSL lol. Oh well, just happy that mouz took it XD | ||
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GoodRiot
United States75 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:14 Facultyadjutant wrote: Idra just threw the game away on purpose - He won over losira and dominated zvz in korea when he practiced I remember when he had 80% in zvz :/ Neither of these things happened. | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On May 04 2012 08:35 Shinta) wrote: First off, watch his stream. I don't need to elaborate on what I said, he's the one who makes it obvious. Secondly, I'm not an IdrA fan. I even stated that I'm a biGs fan... Third, I don't blame LZ for IdrA losing? How could you make such a collaboration?... If you read carefully, I said that IdrA needs an awesome Zerg practice partner, and that if he were to practice with LZ, he wouldn't benefit. Nowhere there does it say that IdrA did practice with LZ and that that practice somehow hurt him. It's annoying that you don't even read my comment correctly, and then you try to respond without having known any useful information to respond with. IdrA is has a big personality. Everyone knows who he is, and if he changes now, it would change a lot of different things. He's also a very manageable person, and is well mannered a lot of the time. He's ill tempered, and that's why people bash him. LZ is ill tempered, but he has no right to be. He has little knowledge of the game, as watching his stream, you can see that he does the wrong strategies with what he's scouted, he doesn't hotkey vital units, he misses silly things like first 5 minute drone production, etc, and yet he calls his opponents bad players from some previous encounter they've had. He bashes opponents and even his own fans on stream, and it makes no sense. I didn't have anything against LZ until a lot of people I knew told me about him, then I saw it for myself. May I remind you that this immature image comes with 0 accomplishments and 0 contribution. His tiny time spent as a personality doesn't count for anything. Back to the topic though, I wish MorroW would have won >< Not a huge MorroW fan but I've been biased against JYP and PuMa since they left TSL lol. Oh well, just happy that mouz took it XD IdrA has already stated he's only envolved in Starcraft 2 because that is where the money and opportunities are these days. He hates SC2 as he thinks the game is "shitty". At this point, he's just waiting for HotS to arrive and hopefully bring a new level of balance to the game. | ||
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