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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
May 05 2012 22:19 GMT
#4441
great tournament!! Despite some techincal difficulties which i'm sure will be solved next time this was simply amazing. Kinda makes me considering going to paris just to visit the next final (if there will be one)

highlights for me were:
ZvZ being amazing between nestea and symbol.
MMA winning
ALIZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
May 05 2012 22:22 GMT
#4442
TSL_Symbol Take IronSquid season2 invite ticket.

From TSL_Korea twitter
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 22:40:58
May 05 2012 22:40 GMT
#4443
I missed the finals, but the event has been good throughout and the last day was just amazing even if the production was not perfect (sound issues, which seem to spare no organizer). But again, this first-time no-name tournament managed to up quite a few big players with their choice of guests and custom-made music.
I am truly looking forward to the next event, and good luck to them.
dropiso
Profile Joined May 2012
France2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 23:29:07
May 05 2012 22:45 GMT
#4444
short video from the 2nd balcony at the end

zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#4445
Want to echo the applause for Iron Squid putting on a great tournament. A few minor problems that will hopefully be fixed for next season, but would love for this to become a regular event. The individual player themes was such a great touch, I have the playlist saved and listen to it while laddering
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 05 2012 22:58 GMT
#4446
On May 06 2012 05:58 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 05:53 figq wrote:
motherfreaking ElkY
live band with original compositions and themes for each player
live classical guitarist singer with witty songs about starcraft
a wild Moman appears
beyond awesome french casting
full HD for free
luxurious venue of the highest quality and size
full room, yet chairs for everyone
happy Nestea even when he loses
special art decorations
spiked helmet
Alizee........................................................................... IMBA EVENT! <3

you forgot

awesome trophy (that we didn't see yet)
actual guest (french) stars!! that's unseen in any even anywhere, not even MLG,IPL,DH as far as i know, norman and especially kyan kojandi are HUGE in france right now (kyan is author and actor in a serie on a major channel, the facebook page for it has over 2.6million fan, that's for a french show)


Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 05:57 setzer wrote:
It's not difficult to simply take a look at the Premiere Events section on liquipedia.

it might not be difficult, but most people don't do it, don't blame me



I must say I really liked what I saw. There were a few hiccups here and there, but France. You guys know how to put on a show and they had an excellent crowd.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 05 2012 23:11 GMT
#4447
wait what alizee showed up? omfg!!!!!!!!!!!
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 23:13:54
May 05 2012 23:13 GMT
#4448
On May 06 2012 05:43 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On May 06 2012 05:41 Antithesis wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:35 Flonomenalz wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:32 Diavlo wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:27 Tachion wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:26 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:25 Tsubbi wrote:
[quote]

he diddnt delay his pool, it was 15 or 14 pool, its just very easy to lose vs 2 rax

if you hatch first then you are delaying your spawning pool....

every pro zerg in the world would hatch first there. That wasn't the issue.

what was the issue?

That a strategy like proxy two-rax getting scouted and still doing so much damage on a regualr opening is problematic.
Symbol would have been dead hadn't he been lucky to find out.

why is that problematic? he scouted it after both raxes were almost done and after he had already invested in hatch first (a build a proxy 2-rax is intended to punish).

what other opening is zerg supposed to use against terran?

u cannot scout a 2 rax in time to do anything other than hatch first, symbol got a 13 pool and STILL couldnt prevent a bunker.

how is that not problematic?

even if he had opened 14/14, mma would see no expo, lift his rax, drop a cc, build a bunker or two, and still be ahead.


i see no problem with terrans abusing zerg's apparent inability to innovate.


Ya, zergs really should innvoate their entire game plan 3 minutes in the game. There are countless unexplored options before 16 supply.

down 1-3 on a cross-positions map against MMA. dont play the safest early build (pool first). yeah, still not feeling too much pity.


One would think the fact that you're bronze league would dissuade you from continuing to give shit advice. But no. That doesn't seem to hinder you at all.

You should go on reddit. You seem to fit right in with the rest of them. That's where the people who haven't had the game installed on their computers for 1½ year, but still feel entilted to give theoretically revolutionary advice, go to circlejerk.
fenX
Profile Joined February 2011
France127 Posts
May 05 2012 23:14 GMT
#4449
Players looked like they had fun too, and were enjoying the party even after a loss and even if those koreans are rather shy.
That's not always the case, especially in big tournaments with hundreds of players, this event with only the best 4 was a really good thing, was fun, a good show a felt more like a party than a competitive tournament. The P&T touch.
So GG Pomf & Thud and their team, you guys did a great job.
My map thread : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195518
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 05 2012 23:19 GMT
#4450
On May 06 2012 08:13 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 05:43 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:41 Antithesis wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:35 Flonomenalz wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:32 Diavlo wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:27 Tachion wrote:
On May 06 2012 05:26 dAPhREAk wrote:
[quote]
if you hatch first then you are delaying your spawning pool....

every pro zerg in the world would hatch first there. That wasn't the issue.

what was the issue?

That a strategy like proxy two-rax getting scouted and still doing so much damage on a regualr opening is problematic.
Symbol would have been dead hadn't he been lucky to find out.

why is that problematic? he scouted it after both raxes were almost done and after he had already invested in hatch first (a build a proxy 2-rax is intended to punish).

what other opening is zerg supposed to use against terran?

u cannot scout a 2 rax in time to do anything other than hatch first, symbol got a 13 pool and STILL couldnt prevent a bunker.

how is that not problematic?

even if he had opened 14/14, mma would see no expo, lift his rax, drop a cc, build a bunker or two, and still be ahead.


i see no problem with terrans abusing zerg's apparent inability to innovate.


Ya, zergs really should innvoate their entire game plan 3 minutes in the game. There are countless unexplored options before 16 supply.

down 1-3 on a cross-positions map against MMA. dont play the safest early build (pool first). yeah, still not feeling too much pity.


One would think the fact that you're bronze league would dissuade you from continuing to give shit advice. But no. That doesn't seem to hinder you at all.

You should go on reddit. You seem to fit right in with the rest of them. That's where the people who haven't had the game installed on their computers for 1½ year, but still feel entilted to give theoretically revolutionary advice, go to circlejerk.


damn i wish i can find the gifs that describe this pwnage
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 05 2012 23:24 GMT
#4451
On May 06 2012 06:12 SiroKO wrote:
By the way, I hope some commentators will take note and try to infuse more energy in their casts...
Analytical commentators aren't bad, but they are far too many currently.
GSL for instance is 100% analytical currently (wolf, khaldor, artosis : analytical, tasteless : not-entertaining anymore, so called play by play commentating to hide his ignorance).

My opinion is 100% the opposite! Too many "play by play" commentators, too few qualified analytic commentators.
"NO" -Has
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 05 2012 23:25 GMT
#4452
Symbol macro isn't good at all, he forgot to make units so many games. Like the last game when MMA was constantly making 10 units simultaneously, Symbol had none in his production tab and 2k,1k in banks. He deserved to lose anyway, too bad Nestea fucked up his semi in his best MU, otherwise it'd be a bit better to watch. Or may be Alive vs MMA in the final would have been much better opponent for MMA lol.
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 23:30:07
May 05 2012 23:28 GMT
#4453
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 05 2012 23:30 GMT
#4454
On May 06 2012 08:11 IshinShishi wrote:
wait what alizee showed up? omfg!!!!!!!!!!!

No she didn't. Alizee is pretty much dead in France. Her international career may be still going but inviting Alizee to an event like that would get the whole crowd so down, they would start riots and strikes !
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 23:33:11
May 05 2012 23:31 GMT
#4455
On May 06 2012 08:24 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 06:12 SiroKO wrote:
By the way, I hope some commentators will take note and try to infuse more energy in their casts...
Analytical commentators aren't bad, but they are far too many currently.
GSL for instance is 100% analytical currently (wolf, khaldor, artosis : analytical, tasteless : not-entertaining anymore, so called play by play commentating to hide his ignorance).

My opinion is 100% the opposite! Too many "play by play" commentators, too few qualified analytic commentators.

Play by play is a totally redundant role; people can see what the fuck is on the screen. Atmospheric and in-depth analysis should be the two 'types' of casting. If you don't know the game, don't talk about it. Our caster standards are just way too low.

These French casters, without the best game knowledge, did a much better job actually casting because they didn't just try to tell me what was happening like we were having a beer at home. They shouted and got excited, which helps get me excited - and shit, even if I don't know what's going on, that excitement is entertaining. How did the foreign scene casters not learn this from all the Korean BW casts everyone watched =/
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
May 05 2012 23:42 GMT
#4456
On May 06 2012 08:31 Jehct wrote:
Play by play is a totally redundant role; people can see what the fuck is on the screen. .
/


And for those who aren't sitting 2 inches from their monitor with a spreadsheet taking notes, the majority, they'll listen to play-by-play.

If watching a sport becomes a mental effort, it's being presented wrong, hence the reason practically every sport uses play-by-play commentary. Hundreds of millions of viewers, trillion dollar worldwide industry. DERAILED BY RANDOM GUY ON FORUM (or not as the case may be)
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 23:45:48
May 05 2012 23:44 GMT
#4457
Too bad nobody noticed this event until the finals. I remember a lot of great games from the groupstage. I guess it kept out the Stephano fanatics tho :D would have loved to see their reaction to his going 1-3.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 05 2012 23:47 GMT
#4458
On May 06 2012 06:59 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 06:42 Morrisson wrote:
It's a shame it was not that much put forward by TL... probably one of the best event of the year, at least on par with other events such as DreamHack and MLG and HomeStory Cup... I really dont get it.


People should give Fionn some love because he did write a preview article off his own initiative, there was just no one around for him to get it spotlighted in any way (you can find it in sc2 general)


Yeah, why did TL boycott them. Well not exactly, that's a heavy word, but you get the point.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 05 2012 23:55 GMT
#4459
On May 06 2012 08:47 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 06:59 Asha` wrote:
On May 06 2012 06:42 Morrisson wrote:
It's a shame it was not that much put forward by TL... probably one of the best event of the year, at least on par with other events such as DreamHack and MLG and HomeStory Cup... I really dont get it.


People should give Fionn some love because he did write a preview article off his own initiative, there was just no one around for him to get it spotlighted in any way (you can find it in sc2 general)


Yeah, why did TL boycott them. Well not exactly, that's a heavy word, but you get the point.


No one knows except the staff, I'm wondering this myself although I'm sure they have a valid reason.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
May 06 2012 00:04 GMT
#4460
On May 06 2012 08:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 08:47 Steveling wrote:
On May 06 2012 06:59 Asha` wrote:
On May 06 2012 06:42 Morrisson wrote:
It's a shame it was not that much put forward by TL... probably one of the best event of the year, at least on par with other events such as DreamHack and MLG and HomeStory Cup... I really dont get it.


People should give Fionn some love because he did write a preview article off his own initiative, there was just no one around for him to get it spotlighted in any way (you can find it in sc2 general)


Yeah, why did TL boycott them. Well not exactly, that's a heavy word, but you get the point.


No one knows except the staff, I'm wondering this myself although I'm sure they have a valid reason.


Wax is in Korea and everyone else was asleep.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
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