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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 02 2012 04:28 GMT
#261
shoulda proxied them lol, the double stargate is way too late by then
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 02 2012 04:28 GMT
#262
Mondragon's list of counters.
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
May 02 2012 04:29 GMT
#263
Roach is a hard counter to air
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
May 02 2012 04:29 GMT
#264
On May 02 2012 13:21 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 13:17 Azarkon wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:14 Whatson wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:11 Azarkon wrote:
Late game Zerg is not unstoppable at all, and HerO showed why. Hell, he didn't use HTs and Vortex and he still crushed that army. Zergs are going to have to come up with better late game compositions to compete with Protoss - ultras and banelings with the army?

That last engagement Stephano got himself in a horrible position where all the stalkers could blink right underneath the BLs, and all but two infestors were still on their way so no fungals


Ret said it in another thread - there's no way to prevent stalkers from blinking underneath your broods. Blink range is huge, and moving your infestors forward to stop stalkers from blinking puts them into feedback range.

I'd be really excited to see a zerg start trying to use banes with the broods, possibly getting 6ish broods then transitioning to ultra/baneling..

i don't know how you could make it work, but any composition that allows you to counter the archon toilet by filling the vortex with banelings sounds fun to me. Actually, does that even work? Do banes kill units in vortices? I haven't seen it since the invincibility change with the vortex.


it takes an absurd # of banelings and the archons spread out much quicker than the broods so the banes aren't as effective as you'd expect.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 02 2012 04:29 GMT
#265
On May 02 2012 13:28 Froadac wrote:
Mondragon's list of counters.


Well said. Mass Roach>Void+Phoenix.
Play your best
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 04:30:05
May 02 2012 04:29 GMT
#266
roaches counter void rays/phoenix?? yes =)

go stephano go hero wish both could win
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#267
troll observing! show's stephano's main with no defenses and 3 voids floating in..

snap.

show's stephano wrecking hero's natural. haha, great play by stephano. still think Hero can take this no problem.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#268
Should have gone 3 stargates :p

Brilliant hold by Stephano, and even better counter.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#269
I swear, man...

Zenio just really seems to drop the ball in teamleagues... :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
May 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#270
On May 02 2012 13:24 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 13:22 GodOfWar wrote:
wow, Stephano losing to an Protoss, other than MC?

Looks like HerO indeed has top notch PvZ


Stephano tends to lose to korean tosses a lot more then foreign tosses, I am not surprised he lost to hero.


What? Please name all the korean tosses Stephano lost to.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 02 2012 04:31 GMT
#271
On May 02 2012 13:22 GodOfWar wrote:
wow, Stephano losing to an Protoss, other than MC?

Looks like HerO indeed has top notch PvZ

I don't think Stephano is that good of a comparison, he loses a lot more to Korean tosses, DRG is still the ZvPer to watch out for, and HerO's like 2-8 against DRG or something like that.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
May 02 2012 04:31 GMT
#272
good micro by hero but he could see those roaches massing up. 1 round of sentry warpins ahead of time would have held that counter. Hero's better than that.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
May 02 2012 04:31 GMT
#273
On May 02 2012 13:29 zestzorb wrote:
Roach is a hard counter to air


Calculus: d(Roaches killing infrastructure and probes)/dt > d(Voids and phoenixes killing roaches)/dt :D
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 04:34:33
May 02 2012 04:34 GMT
#274
On May 02 2012 13:30 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 13:24 blade55555 wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:22 GodOfWar wrote:
wow, Stephano losing to an Protoss, other than MC?

Looks like HerO indeed has top notch PvZ


Stephano tends to lose to korean tosses a lot more then foreign tosses, I am not surprised he lost to hero.


What? Please name all the korean tosses Stephano lost to.

How about the only korean Protoss that Stephano has won sets against? JYP.
Stephano doesn't play Korean tosses that much. It's a straight-up fact lol.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 04:35:29
May 02 2012 04:34 GMT
#275
is stephano gonna twobase?

EDIT, clearly.. no
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 04:35:47
May 02 2012 04:35 GMT
#276
On May 02 2012 13:30 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 13:24 blade55555 wrote:
On May 02 2012 13:22 GodOfWar wrote:
wow, Stephano losing to an Protoss, other than MC?

Looks like HerO indeed has top notch PvZ


Stephano tends to lose to korean tosses a lot more then foreign tosses, I am not surprised he lost to hero.


What? Please name all the korean tosses Stephano lost to.


He's played 4 koreans and lost to 3 of them in 2012 (going by TLPD).

He lost to inori at MLG, lost to MC twice also in a bo7 show match, and beat JYP.

So it's only 4, but he lost to 3 of the 4.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 02 2012 04:35 GMT
#277
On May 02 2012 13:34 kerpal wrote:
is stephano gonna twobase?

EDIT, clearly.. no

Haha. Well, I was thinking that too.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 02 2012 04:36 GMT
#278
omg hero... no Warpgate? Are you kidding me???
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 02 2012 04:37 GMT
#279
hero forgot warpgate lol
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 02 2012 04:37 GMT
#280
oh boy forgetting warpgate...
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