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[IPL] FC15: MC vs Stephano - Page 29

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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 01:05:44
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#561
The difference between that game and the other games is how little damage MC's +1 zealot stalker attack did. The size of that map makes it difficult and MC flat out dies to mass roaches after the harass did no damage. This is what happens to foreigner Protoss players when they face up against Stephano.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#562
stop quoting people who spoil results, you're only making it worse
parasite
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#563
On April 29 2012 10:04 Whatson wrote:
Funny, almost all my PvZs end up this way too

QFT!!!
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#564
Ugh damn spoilers... >.>

Oh well so far its been a good series!
Bang!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44462 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#565
On April 29 2012 10:01 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 10:00 MrCon wrote:
We're spoiled by the GSL observers. Everygame not "directed" by them looks pale now

yeah ST_legend really is a legendary observer


Agreed. At least CatsPajamas and Doa are great casters!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#566
On April 29 2012 09:58 Supah wrote:
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On April 29 2012 09:56 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:53 Supah wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:51 Daray wrote:
On April 29 2012 09:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MC WOW!!!

Not even a 4gate all-in!

Fuck yeah. That pressure.


It wasn't 4gate but it was an all-in.


Not necessarily. The Stalkers are good since if the battles start going poorly, you can really book it before Speed pops. It's a strong pressure, and you're not committed as a Sentry/Zealot attack or even a 4 gas variation.


I would say he was very committed. If MC wanted to expand, he would have to warp in stuff at home to be able to even get out of his base. Completely walling off is a pretty good indication that MC was not planning on having to expand.


Any pressure should include this, because a handful of lings running by means you lose attack force by having to warp in at home (minus just ONE warp in to save the wall), and you could lose your Probes. Lack of second gas, lack of another gate, MC actually getting his second gas partly through the attack, the late-ish forward Pylon really showed it wasn't an all in. There was a planned transition out of this.


Lack of second gas and lack of the 4th gate is only cos MC wanted constant stalker production, which u can only barely do with 3 gates, the 4th gate becomes pretty useless after a few warp-ins. MC was able to do enough damage so he started to transition, but it really didn't really look like that was his intention. Some koreans have started to do this build and none of them ever expand, it's really just a 4gate but because they have better mechanics, they save 150 minerals and constantly warp in from 3.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 01:06:26
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#567
On April 29 2012 10:03 Aocowns wrote:
Oh no, MC missed his forcefields, I guess that's the end of this game! This is retarded


Game ended when MC didnt do enough dmg to Stephano early on and then he gets very dangerious. Forcefield energy would run out and then he dies. On these maps there is a reason why so many pro says this build is allmost unstoppable
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#568
On April 29 2012 10:04 Zheryn wrote:
So well played by Stephano, baiting forcefields like a boss and distracting with 2 pronged attacks.

He played fine, but when did he "bait" forcefields, it was more that he slammed a ton of roaches right on MC's army and MC was very slow on FF.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#569
Idiots quoting him.. lol
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
April 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#570
On April 29 2012 10:03 sc14s wrote:
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On April 29 2012 10:02 Whatson wrote:
On April 29 2012 10:01 Zyzzbrah wrote:


SPOILERS

lol what a troll
i wish i had a report button, but hopefully some mods see this

you aren't supposed to respond to it


great advice, any another disparaging comments you have? you've been stating them for the entire duration of this stream thus far.
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#571
notice how stephano took roach warren at 6:35 instead of 7:00 because he scouted no gas at the natural on atlantis spaceship... so smart
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#572
On April 29 2012 10:05 CurlyBruce wrote:
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On April 29 2012 10:01 Zyzzbrah wrote:
[spoiler][spoiler]MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3
MC WIN 5-3


Stephano 1-0
MC 1-1
MC 2-1
Stephano 2-2
Stephano 3-2
MC 3-3
MC 4-3
MC 5-3


link to stephano's US account
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2808471/1/MillStephano/matches

SPOILERS

Thanks, brah.

At least put it in fucking spoilers, come on!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 01:07:17
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#573
On April 29 2012 10:01 Zyzzbrah wrote:


**CENSORED**


link to stephano's US account
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2808471/1/MillStephano/matches

SPOILERS


I feel like a moron. I was wondering what he meant by spoilers click the link and was wondering why there were so many CENSORED on his account. Then it suddenly hit me that he spoiled it. Well he did give warning....

Jerk though.
Protosnake
Profile Joined September 2011
France295 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#574
On April 29 2012 10:03 Mioraka wrote:
This is the meta game for ZvP.

If protoss doesn't do enough damage in the first pressure and takes a third, it is roach max to gg.


If you commit a lot of ressource to pressure the 3rd and dont do any economic damage you're massively behind, that's not a problem and it's true in every matchup
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#575
Stephano v Polt next week???



That would be too good!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#576
On April 29 2012 10:01 Zyzzbrah wrote:
Edit

Mods.

Ban him.

Now.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 01:07:17
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#577
openbox1.. you're an idiot


edit:you fixed it, too late for me though lol
Zyzzbrah
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia4 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#578
--- Nuked ---
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44462 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#579
On April 29 2012 10:05 DownMaxX wrote:
stop quoting people who spoil results, you're only making it worse


I'm PMing them all as fast as I can, but more people keep doing it x.x rofl
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
April 29 2012 01:06 GMT
#580
Don't have flawless Forcefields in a single engagement.. dies.
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