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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1221
On April 26 2012 21:06 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%

What the fuck people saying Oz's PvT is bad. You don't know anything Oz's pvt is actually easily top3 in the world (along with parting and puzzle)


I dunno man, his FFE build is cute but his lategame army management has been kinda cringeworthy at times.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1222
On April 26 2012 21:05 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:02 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Can we officially say that PartinG & Squirtle > MC now?

Losing a PvP bo3 2-1 in code S doesn't mean much of anything


I seriously dont understand why people keep claiming PvP isn't as skill based as the other matchups. Numerous pro players say that PvP isnt just a coinflip. Do people not realize that Ro16 Code S groups are picked by players and not randomly put together/seeded. There is a reason why Protoss players pick other protoss, and the reason is not that its a luck based / conflip matchup


you know, there is a reason why there are the most upsets in pvp.
Progamer
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1223
aLive, MMA, DRG, MKP, NesTea, MC

wow basically almost the whole top 10 is completely dropping to Code A

that never happened before, did it?

maybe we might not see all of them again next season either...
Mvp Moon Squirtle
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1224
On April 26 2012 21:05 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%


Well Choya put out himself in front of Oz when it really mattered in GSTL against Byun, which should signify that Oz's PvT is not up to par. PvP has always been his strong matchup, and in a group with 3 protoss players it would make little sense to only practice PvT....so yeah, not liking oz's chances here.


He also beat Polt and ForGG to advance in this very tournament, so it must be half decent

Unless PvT is that imba PPP
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1225
On April 26 2012 21:05 regizer239 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Can we officially say that PartinG & Squirtle > MC now?


I cant be the only that thought that MC was never REALLY good? Right?


Just like MVP and Nestea were never really good
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
April 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#1226
On April 26 2012 21:06 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%

What the fuck people saying Oz's PvT is bad. You don't know anything Oz's pvt is actually easily top3 in the world (along with parting and puzzle)

The FXO team probably doesn't think the same when they send Choya instead of him to PvT in GSTL lol
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 26 2012 12:09 GMT
#1227
On April 26 2012 21:06 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%

What the fuck people saying Oz's PvT is bad. You don't know anything Oz's pvt is actually easily top3 in the world (along with parting and puzzle)

Well he does have a 46% winratio in the matchup: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=629&part=games&league=standard&vs=T

Regardless, from what I've seen of his play it's widely inconsistant.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 26 2012 12:09 GMT
#1228
On April 26 2012 21:08 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:06 Yaki wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%

What the fuck people saying Oz's PvT is bad. You don't know anything Oz's pvt is actually easily top3 in the world (along with parting and puzzle)


I dunno man, his FFE build is cute but his lategame army management has been kinda cringeworthy at times.


He does love the move command
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
April 26 2012 12:09 GMT
#1229
YEEES!!!! I really hoped MC would drop, I don't like his attitude anymore.... but fortunately I think his reign of terror is over, gogo Squirtle/Parting and the rest of the ''new'' protosses ^_^
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 26 2012 12:10 GMT
#1230
On April 26 2012 21:05 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:02 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Can we officially say that PartinG & Squirtle > MC now?

Losing a PvP bo3 2-1 in code S doesn't mean much of anything


I seriously dont understand why people keep claiming PvP isn't as skill based as the other matchups. Numerous pro players say that PvP isnt just a coinflip. Do people not realize that Ro16 Code S groups are picked by players and not randomly put together/seeded. There is a reason why Protoss players pick other protoss, and the reason is not that its a luck based / conflip matchup

It's just it's really volatile and has a higher element of luck than other mu's. If there's one mu where a stronger player is more likely to fall to a weaker one it's definitely PvP.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 12:15:39
April 26 2012 12:10 GMT
#1231
On April 26 2012 21:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Can we officially say that PartinG & Squirtle > MC now?

Hardly.
PartinG still needs to up his consistency considering how he played at Spring Arena 1.
EDIT: He still looks a bit better considering that MC has been playing inconsistently as well though.
Barely anyone cared about who Squirtle was pre-IPL4.
If you switch rankings after people get a few good runs rather than see how they'll do over the course of months you'll be changing rankings a lot.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 12:11:14
April 26 2012 12:10 GMT
#1232
Aww! So sad to see MC out

That guy has more personality than anyone in the Korean scene! Such an awesome dude!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
April 26 2012 12:11 GMT
#1233
On April 26 2012 21:09 Coal wrote:
YEEES!!!! I really hoped MC would drop, I don't like his attitude anymore.... but fortunately I think his reign of terror is over, gogo Squirtle/Parting and the rest of the ''new'' protosses ^_^


lol reign of terror?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 12:11:56
April 26 2012 12:11 GMT
#1234
On April 26 2012 21:06 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 21:04 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 26 2012 21:01 Fragile51 wrote:
Too bad MC, now lets see how bad Oz's PvT actually is.

His PvT isnt really that bad id say, its about 50%

What the fuck people saying Oz's PvT is bad. You don't know anything Oz's pvt is actually easily top3 in the world (along with parting and puzzle)


It's not exactly strong.

He's sub 50% in korea (with over 50 games played) and a little over 50% internationally (with almost 70 games played).

Very inconsistent at least, some days he looks great and some days he looks really weak. Hell sometimes he does both in the same day.
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
April 26 2012 12:12 GMT
#1235
Poll: Who do you want to win?

Maru (32)
 
62%

Oz (20)
 
38%

52 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Oz

vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 26 2012 12:12 GMT
#1236
I cant be the only that thought that MC was never REALLY good? Right?


Yeah, he is #1 prize earning due to luck. He was ahead of all the other toss and now, they are beginning to catch up. But we have to remember that once you get good, people begin to study you. So it is harder to stay on top (MMA, DRG lost in Ro32...). Granted, PartinG and Squirtle are playing great now. But maybe their styles will get picked apart in the next GSL. Great players are defined by their consistency and their ability to adapt when everyone is gunning for you. So I would classify PartinG and Squirtle as good players who are playing great now. And if they show they can keep it up in the next couple GSL, other big foreign events, then I would classify them as great players along with MVP, MMA, MKP, Nestea, DRG, MC
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 26 2012 12:13 GMT
#1237
On April 26 2012 21:12 regizer239 wrote:
Poll: Who do you want to win?

Maru (32)
 
62%

Oz (20)
 
38%

52 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Oz



Maru, so Parting has an easier path to the finals
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 26 2012 12:13 GMT
#1238
Fun Fact: If Maru wins, every single game in the round of 8 will be a PvT
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
April 26 2012 12:14 GMT
#1239
On April 26 2012 21:13 Cereb wrote:
Fun Fact: If Maru wins, every single game in the round of 8 will be a PvT


I think the casters said that earlier on in the day actually
Liquid`HerO!!!
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
April 26 2012 12:15 GMT
#1240
On April 26 2012 21:13 Cereb wrote:
Fun Fact: If Maru wins, every single game in the round of 8 will be a PvT


Thats the exact reason why I want Oz to win not only cause I really like Oz, but 4 TvPs would be just... :/

I'm hoping for a TvT final though, PvP is meh and we've had sooooooooooooooo much TvP this season.
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