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my god thank you finally a koren zerg besides drg playing well until 7 minutes into a zvp
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Waiting for Avenge to immortal bust.
EDIT: rofllll there it is. You'd think Zergs would know since 2base timings are all he does and when you see four gas you know its not a gateway timing, and the only other thing he does is immortal ones. Might still win that shit is super hard to hold...
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Has Avenge ever had a series vs zerg where he hasnt done an immortal all in? Serious question
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protosses really trained their 2 base allins for todays code a
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Man there is more whining in here then on world series of poker is about bad beats....
There is no real imba in this game as you can see there are allways different races winning big tournaments.
i mean there are like 2 zerg in code S next year propably but its not because zerg is underpowered (DRG just won MLG so HOW can there be IMBA? and i am a zerg whiner myself )
any game after a player loses that was because of imba....
why in the world is there only ONE single protoss in the world to ever win a gsl title ???
well because chrono warpgate is SOOOO IMBA it wins every game 
and thats why we have soooooo many gsl protoss champions
there is no imba, just a flow of methagame which is shifting like every 1-2 months
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Avenge doing his famous 2 immortal warp prism build again, lets see if sniper can hold it.
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On April 24 2012 20:10 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 20:06 zefreak wrote:On April 24 2012 20:04 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 20:00 clusen wrote:On April 24 2012 19:58 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 19:50 SwizzY wrote:
My god so this is the infamous LR whine that people talk about....
Sure bomber completely leveled the main, but not before the resource advantage off the 3-base was capitalized on - there were 5 gates at the third. Alicia knew he was going to lose everything so he made 6 at his third, one of which died.
Bomber lost cost-INEFFICIENTLY in all 3 fights (main, nat, third). AND he didn't think he didn't need any additional bunker support even when army supply was even.
I just don't understand how retarded people get in this thread. That was a crazy back and forth moment where Bomber overestimated his advantage, which if he hadn't, he wouldve been ahead economically.
Jesus Christ. GG. Okay, Bomber leveled the main and Alicia had no production for a long time. And you say that he overestimated his advantage by thinking he didnt need bunkers? He didn't "level" the main, he killed a few pylons and made Alicia pull his probes, that's it. Key (Artosis) pylons. Nexus. Templar archive. Want to cherry pick more? Fact still remains that Alicia has 0 army production for quite some time. And then he makes a "great comeback" - as some here called it. Did Alicia out-maneuver Bomber to make the comeback? Did he out-wit Bomber? Nope, he crashed through the front door. What a great comeback. Are you stupid? You normally can't crash through the front door with an army disadvantage (which if he didn't have after having no production for 'some time', then its Bombers fault). What did he do specifically that allowed him to win? You do realize that if Bomber had the groups of bio balls and medivacs that he donated to Alicia after he took out the Templar Archive, he most likely could have secured his 4th and then held of the counter attack that Alicia did after that? That was close to 40 supply he just threw for a couple of zealots, stalkers, pylons and probes. I thought he was doing amazing when it was happening, but on hindsight he really should have just ran after he had taken out the Templar Archives.
Right here.
Chargelots are so stupid when it comes to multiple engagements. Terran can't stutterstep units on more than 1 front, I think I've watched Polt do it on 2 fronts, kind of. Basically forces a big deathball gameplay - something that most TL'ers don't hold in high regard.
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On April 24 2012 20:12 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 20:10 pdd wrote:On April 24 2012 20:06 zefreak wrote:On April 24 2012 20:04 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 20:00 clusen wrote:On April 24 2012 19:58 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 19:50 SwizzY wrote:
My god so this is the infamous LR whine that people talk about....
Sure bomber completely leveled the main, but not before the resource advantage off the 3-base was capitalized on - there were 5 gates at the third. Alicia knew he was going to lose everything so he made 6 at his third, one of which died.
Bomber lost cost-INEFFICIENTLY in all 3 fights (main, nat, third). AND he didn't think he didn't need any additional bunker support even when army supply was even.
I just don't understand how retarded people get in this thread. That was a crazy back and forth moment where Bomber overestimated his advantage, which if he hadn't, he wouldve been ahead economically.
Jesus Christ. GG. Okay, Bomber leveled the main and Alicia had no production for a long time. And you say that he overestimated his advantage by thinking he didnt need bunkers? He didn't "level" the main, he killed a few pylons and made Alicia pull his probes, that's it. Key (Artosis) pylons. Nexus. Templar archive. Want to cherry pick more? Fact still remains that Alicia has 0 army production for quite some time. And then he makes a "great comeback" - as some here called it. Did Alicia out-maneuver Bomber to make the comeback? Did he out-wit Bomber? Nope, he crashed through the front door. What a great comeback. Are you stupid? You normally can't crash through the front door with an army disadvantage (which if he didn't have after having no production for 'some time', then its Bombers fault). What did he do specifically that allowed him to win? You do realize that if Bomber had the groups of bio balls and medivacs that he donated to Alicia after he took out the Templar Archive, he most likely could have secured his 4th and then held of the counter attack that Alicia did after that? That was close to 40 supply he just threw for a couple of zealots, stalkers, pylons and probes. I thought he was doing amazing when it was happening, but on hindsight he really should have just ran after he had taken out the Templar Archives. Yeah, that is my point. I was asking him to get him to think about how it was possible, instead of just complaining. I know what Bomber did wrong, but some people would rather focus on how Protoss has such and such advantage.
Oh yeah, misquoted the wrong person.
On topic though, is it me or is HerO and JYP the only two Tosses who almost never go for 2 base all-ins. Why don't tosses stop going for those damn 2 base all-ins?
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On April 24 2012 20:15 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 20:12 zefreak wrote:On April 24 2012 20:10 pdd wrote:On April 24 2012 20:06 zefreak wrote:On April 24 2012 20:04 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 20:00 clusen wrote:On April 24 2012 19:58 plogamer wrote:On April 24 2012 19:50 SwizzY wrote:
My god so this is the infamous LR whine that people talk about....
Sure bomber completely leveled the main, but not before the resource advantage off the 3-base was capitalized on - there were 5 gates at the third. Alicia knew he was going to lose everything so he made 6 at his third, one of which died.
Bomber lost cost-INEFFICIENTLY in all 3 fights (main, nat, third). AND he didn't think he didn't need any additional bunker support even when army supply was even.
I just don't understand how retarded people get in this thread. That was a crazy back and forth moment where Bomber overestimated his advantage, which if he hadn't, he wouldve been ahead economically.
Jesus Christ. GG. Okay, Bomber leveled the main and Alicia had no production for a long time. And you say that he overestimated his advantage by thinking he didnt need bunkers? He didn't "level" the main, he killed a few pylons and made Alicia pull his probes, that's it. Key (Artosis) pylons. Nexus. Templar archive. Want to cherry pick more? Fact still remains that Alicia has 0 army production for quite some time. And then he makes a "great comeback" - as some here called it. Did Alicia out-maneuver Bomber to make the comeback? Did he out-wit Bomber? Nope, he crashed through the front door. What a great comeback. Are you stupid? You normally can't crash through the front door with an army disadvantage (which if he didn't have after having no production for 'some time', then its Bombers fault). What did he do specifically that allowed him to win? You do realize that if Bomber had the groups of bio balls and medivacs that he donated to Alicia after he took out the Templar Archive, he most likely could have secured his 4th and then held of the counter attack that Alicia did after that? That was close to 40 supply he just threw for a couple of zealots, stalkers, pylons and probes. I thought he was doing amazing when it was happening, but on hindsight he really should have just ran after he had taken out the Templar Archives. Yeah, that is my point. I was asking him to get him to think about how it was possible, instead of just complaining. I know what Bomber did wrong, but some people would rather focus on how Protoss has such and such advantage. Oh yeah, misquoted the wrong person. On topic though, is it me or is HerO and JYP the only two Tosses who almost never go for 2 base all-ins. Why don't tosses stop going for those damn 2 base all-ins?
Because they work :p
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this push.. the immortal buff vs 1/1/1 sure had some side effects
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Nice hold by Sniper, think he has it now.
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On April 24 2012 20:09 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 20:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok if seeing a particular player or race winning pisses you off to the point you have to yell at strangers over the internet, then you should either go smoke a cigarette or start taking yourself less seriously Preferably the latter because smoking is bad4u
Lol.
Well there will always be this kind of balance whining. What I don't understand is why the race who has had without a doubt and by far the best percentage of presence in the playoffs of every big tournament for a year is the one which is whining the most. I'm a protoss, now I fell like zergs may be a bit underpowered but yet, I don't hear that many zergs balance whining while terrans are doing it all the time, even when terrans are just dominating the tourney. It's just indecent.
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Sniper, have my babies. Go smash this one-trick pony.
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Why did he throw all his shit out the window -_-
Nice push though, scary stuff
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I was like "How do you defend a push like that omg?". Then Zerg makes more roaches.
I guess it works, as it always does.
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Beautiful hold there! I wonder if it would have been possible for Avenge to just go home though?
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I like Sniper and I want more zergs in GSL but you can't help but feel for Zenex T.T
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On April 24 2012 20:19 Hall0wed wrote:
I like Sniper and I want more zergs in GSL but you can't help but feel for Zenex T.T
don't worry, they already have line in Code A guarranteed.
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EPT
