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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#661
Even though Ganzi is getting raped by DRG he still made a good showing this tourney ^^

On April 23 2012 06:25 Fatlord wrote:
dreamhack > MLG
really dont like mlg's way to promote the league


I agree MLG(Sundance XD) is basically always playing the victim and if we don't give them 1300 Great British Pence then we are all killing esports!
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
April 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#662
On April 23 2012 06:31 Zebb wrote:
Does Ganzi take ridiculous risks like this in every game he plays?


seems like hes trying to throw off drg all the time
although im not sure why, ganzi's bread and butter is just his solid standard no bs macro play

byah!
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#663
On April 23 2012 06:32 NexUmbra wrote:
Even though Ganzi is getting raped by DRG he still made a good showing this tourney ^^

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 06:25 Fatlord wrote:
dreamhack > MLG
really dont like mlg's way to promote the league


I agree MLG(Sundance XD) is basically always playing the victim and if we don't give them 1300 Great British Pence then we are all killing esports!

Um what? He has never said that. He has only said watch it if you want to and can afford it. Oh and that if you like it and are watching restreams to consider buying it next time.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#664
When they did the fighting game stuff the twitch stream and MLG stream were both showing the same content but were separate. (The twitch part was down for alot of one day)

I assume that anyone watching the games with the MLG player is not counting towards the twitch numbers
Bang!
Kala23
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany230 Posts
April 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#665
just compare both LR Threads. DH has 10 times the amount of pages.
I'M enjoying both tournaments, especially with DRG having finally waken up and Thorzain owning it up at DH!
godsend1
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom77 Posts
April 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#666
On April 23 2012 06:28 MVTaylor wrote:
Worked this out, posted it in DH thread, figured you guys might be interested. As I haven't paid I have no idea which of the "extra" streams are currently worth watching.

http://www.twitch.tv/directory?category=StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty&page=1

73k watching SC2 on twitch, all MLG numbers are hidden.

60k watching DH.

3k watching the next four biggest channels

~1k watching all the othres clumped together

SooooOOOoooo

~ 9k watching MLG streams (anyone who has paid can watch multiple)


A paid event getting less viewers!?!? Someone call the cops!
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#667
On April 23 2012 06:33 Kala23 wrote:
just compare both LR Threads. DH has 10 times the amount of pages.
I'M enjoying both tournaments, especially with DRG having finally waken up and Thorzain owning it up at DH!


DH is free and has been going for about 14 hours straight now. Of course it has more pages >_>
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#668
On April 23 2012 06:33 Kala23 wrote:
just compare both LR Threads. DH has 10 times the amount of pages.
I'M enjoying both tournaments, especially with DRG having finally waken up and Thorzain owning it up at DH!

that more reflects on the fact that DH is free and MLG isnt rather than the quality of either
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berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
April 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#669
ahhhh wolf is @dreamhack
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#670
DRG vs. MKP finals? Is this real?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
April 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#671
Stop responding to a 6 post total user named Fatlord.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#672
On April 23 2012 06:33 Kala23 wrote:
just compare both LR Threads. DH has 10 times the amount of pages.
I'M enjoying both tournaments, especially with DRG having finally waken up and Thorzain owning it up at DH!

Foreigner event that's free vs a basically korean ppv event (MLG may be based in America but it's all Koreans now)

Bit different
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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 21:37:51
April 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#673
On April 23 2012 06:31 Greentellon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 06:28 MVTaylor wrote:
Worked this out, posted it in DH thread, figured you guys might be interested. As I haven't paid I have no idea which of the "extra" streams are currently worth watching.

http://www.twitch.tv/directory?category=StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty&page=1

73k watching SC2 on twitch, all MLG numbers are hidden.

60k watching DH.

3k watching the next four biggest channels

~1k watching all the othres clumped together

SooooOOOoooo

~ 9k watching MLG streams (anyone who has paid can watch multiple)


If MLG numbers are hidden, wouldn't they also be hidden from totals? If you look at right bar, at least 1k viewers are watching random streams.


If you look on the list it's ordered by number, by the bottom of the page already you are in to streamers with less than 5 viewers. There are only 106 streamers in total so it's pretty likely that although you cannot directly see the MLG viewer numbers you can infer it by the different from the total.

On April 23 2012 06:31 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 06:28 MVTaylor wrote:
Worked this out, posted it in DH thread, figured you guys might be interested. As I haven't paid I have no idea which of the "extra" streams are currently worth watching.

http://www.twitch.tv/directory?category=StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty&page=1

73k watching SC2 on twitch, all MLG numbers are hidden.

60k watching DH.

3k watching the next four biggest channels

~1k watching all the othres clumped together

SooooOOOoooo

~ 9k watching MLG streams (anyone who has paid can watch multiple)

does MLG use twitch? i thought it was their own streaming set up at majorleaguegaming.com/live


Indeed they do, here's the twitch link to SCA stream: http://www.twitch.tv/mlg_sca


On April 23 2012 06:34 godsend1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 06:28 MVTaylor wrote:
Worked this out, posted it in DH thread, figured you guys might be interested. As I haven't paid I have no idea which of the "extra" streams are currently worth watching.

http://www.twitch.tv/directory?category=StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty&page=1

73k watching SC2 on twitch, all MLG numbers are hidden.

60k watching DH.

3k watching the next four biggest channels

~1k watching all the othres clumped together

SooooOOOoooo

~ 9k watching MLG streams (anyone who has paid can watch multiple)


A paid event getting less viewers!?!? Someone call the cops!


I just thought it was interesting... if you honestly think I'm poking fun at MLG or calling their model rubbish then you're completely wrong. I watched paid to watch Arena 1 as it had DeMusliM in it and loads of other players. This weekend I've actually needed sleep and made do with checking out the few free matches. Obviously the event is great quality and I'm sure the games have been aw well, I just posted these stats for interest.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
April 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#674
I kind of like the paid events, makes the LR's pretty readable with the odd trolling from butt hurt posters.
Brood War forever!
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
April 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#675
That was a weird engagement. Surely thought Ganzi would be crushed right then, but it turns out to be a wash somehow.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 21:37:49
April 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#676
I think 10 000 concurrent viewers are reasonable for a ppv model for a smallish (number of players and games) tournament.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#677
I'm trying to understand a few things about the business models of MLG vs DH.

DH has live viewers, a much bigger cast of players (128), a bigger prize pool and arguably better streaming. MLG has only 8 players, kinda glitchy streaming and a much smaller prize pool (though admittedly, the players are bigger names). How does the DH business model work? Are ads and sponsors that good for DH? O_O
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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 21:40:18
April 22 2012 21:38 GMT
#678
On April 23 2012 06:30 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 06:26 WArped wrote:
On April 23 2012 06:25 Fatlord wrote:
dreamhack > MLG
really dont like mlg's way to promote the league


Why are you in this thread making stupid comments then?

yeah... everyone who is reading/posting in this thread obviously thinks MLG > Dreamhack, or are watching/following both. I personally prefer MLG as they have the top players and top casters. Also i have lagless 1080 with no gaps between games, MLG is fucking awesome


To be honest all this tournament rivalry is completely stupid and irrelevant. We all love SC2, there are two tournaments on at the same time thanks to the popularity of SC2. I am just glad there is so much content to watch and choose from. I personally think it's completely worth the $10, but others just don't even consider paying for MLG while another great tournament is on and I don't blame them.

If these tournaments had better communication and would organise a bit better at the start of the year to avoid conflicted and overlapping MAJOR tournaments, I think it would be better for everybody involved, especially the viewers.

Edit: Woo DRG vs MKP rematch number three!
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
April 22 2012 21:38 GMT
#679
On April 23 2012 06:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm trying to understand a few things about the business models of MLG vs DH.

DH has live viewers, a much bigger cast of players (128), a bigger prize pool and arguably better streaming. MLG has only 8 players, kinda glitchy streaming and a much smaller prize pool (though admittedly, the players are bigger names). How does the DH business model work? Are ads and sponsors that good for DH? O_O


The DH audience have all had to buy a ticket to be there. Competitors had to buy competitor passes, anyone competing had to pay their own travel and accomodation costs.... all adds up!
@followMVT
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#680
MKP vs DRG Part 3
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