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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 08 2012 23:45 GMT
#8641
On April 09 2012 08:41 Hall0wed wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.

Ahaha so biased. Can't beat, wtf does that even mean? I definitely like his chances vs squirtle better than vs MMA.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
April 08 2012 23:45 GMT
#8642
On April 09 2012 08:42 JOJOsc2news wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:40 Femari wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 eYeball wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.


But you don't care about the colossus if MMA would win, just because your favourite player lost to a push it's retarded? :/

Most Terran think it's stupid because you can't mech vP and it hardcounters bio.


Hell you can mech vP. Ever had a look at this?


If I linked you the guide to fast planetary at your natural would that make it viable
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 08 2012 23:45 GMT
#8643
MMA already dead pretty much
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 23:46:50
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8644
On April 09 2012 08:44 JJH777 wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:42 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:41 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.


Stephano has a better shot vs. Squirtle than Nestea. I said it before and I say it again. Squirtle's PvZ is good, but it's not very different from what other Protosses Stephano has played do - he knows what to do vs. it, Nestea is nothing like that.


Nestea beat Parting and Tails yesterday.... Parting is better than any Protoss Stephano has played. Tails is better than any Protoss Stephano has played besides JYP and MC.


Parting is not better than JYP and MC in PvZ.

On April 09 2012 08:44 mordk wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:43 1Eris1 wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:42 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:41 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.


Stephano has a better shot vs. Squirtle than Nestea. I said it before and I say it again. Squirtle's PvZ is good, but it's not very different from what other Protosses Stephano has played do - he knows what to do vs. it, Nestea is nothing like that.



You haven't seen Stephano play against Squirtle have you?

Yeah didn't squirtle destroy stephano on ladder like 5 times in a row?

So did Bomber....
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8645
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


dunno, aLive crushed Stephano 2-0 last time, but his TvZ doesnt seem too impressive as of late.

Squirtle seems strong against Zerg and could certainly defeat Stephano.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8646
Is MMA losing to the same thikg as MKP?
New mrtagame in PvT incoming
WriterMaru
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8647
Is Squirtle even in code S? He's just crushing everyone this tournament it seems.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8648
LOL trolled
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8649
On April 09 2012 08:44 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:43 1Eris1 wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:42 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:41 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.


Stephano has a better shot vs. Squirtle than Nestea. I said it before and I say it again. Squirtle's PvZ is good, but it's not very different from what other Protosses Stephano has played do - he knows what to do vs. it, Nestea is nothing like that.



You haven't seen Stephano play against Squirtle have you?


Ladder games mean nothing, remember? That was 4-5 months ago.


And what Korean protosses has Stephano beaten within the last 4-5 months? JYP? Tails?...yeah
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8650
hahaha, brilliant.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8651
On April 09 2012 08:45 vndods wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:44 Maghetti wrote:
This is mkp vs squirtle all over again...

MMA about to die to collosus.

This is starting to scare me...
*MKP takes off MMA mask*
hemeh
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8652
On April 09 2012 08:42 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.

Lol no.

Not entirely wrong, at least for the Squirtle part (Stephano ZvP has evolved a lot since the games on the KR ladder everyone refers to). As for Alive, I disagree though, he is favored against Stephano considering his strength in TvZ
Shadow and dust
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8653
On April 09 2012 08:43 Marcus420 wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:42 aTnClouD wrote:
I don't know why but I just love CatsPajamas, both as caster and interviewer.

hes passionate and works hard :D

and isnt awkward like some

I remember the first time I watched him cast. It was some sort of school/college-tournament back in like late 2010 or something. It was pretty awesome, so soothing to listen to during matches and really relaxed and natural on camera. I respect him a lot from watching him climb the career ladder. Also seems like a really honest person, don't know why but that's the impression I always get.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8654
On April 09 2012 08:44 TheRhox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:41 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.


Stephano has some exceptionally good ZvP, It's stupid to think he can't take out Squirtle.


No. Stop with this if you haven't actually seen Squirtle play Stephano, Squirtle destroys him every time.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8655
catspajamas is great. <3
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8656
On April 09 2012 08:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:40 Promethelax wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:34 Promethelax wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:30 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:29 Theeakoz wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:28 Sakkreth wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:25 Theeakoz wrote:
Poll: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competition

We only have Stephano none else. (84)
 
50%

Koreans are way ahead. (61)
 
36%

We're gotten better but not nearly there yet. (22)
 
13%

We there. (2)
 
1%

169 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competition

(Vote): We're gotten better but not nearly there yet.
(Vote): We there.
(Vote): We only have Stephano none else.
(Vote): Koreans are way ahead.



Stephano, HuK, NaNiWa.

Yes I think if Huk was in this trounament he would have done really well as too.

he was in the tourney. he got eliminated really early.


In a loser's final in the open bracket isn't all that early.

I would suggest that Sase, Thorzain and Illusion are also quite good we have less than ten quality players who are close to being on a level with the Koreans. I hope that eventually there will be good forgien players in the GSL on their own skill and making deep runs a la Jinro and Huk. Eventually we'll have a GSL winner, I hope.

its relative. if you dont get out of the open bracket, i consider that early.


Consider the open bracket though, he was top 16 out of 128 which included about half of code S, and Code A most of the top Foreign talent and a lot of no names some of whom it turns out are really good.
Decent enough point though, open bracket isn't its own tournament. But I still think Huk easily could have come out and, if he had, he would have done decently in groups.

again, i didnt say he didnt do well. i just consider the fact that he didnt make it out of open bracket getting eliminated really early. if you think not getting out of open bracket is not early then thats fine. its just semantics.


Fair enough. I would generally consider it early, in this particular tournament I'm not sure I would qualify it as very early. I concede the point to you though, it was early enough.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8657
On April 09 2012 08:45 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:44 Diavlo wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:40 MCDayC wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:39 Pandain wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:38 Spiner wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.


I hope they remove it in HOTS and add a unit that requires more micro


If only there was such a unit in BW that did sick splash damage but required sick micro to use effectively.....
*thinks hard*
....
...
...

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oh well!

Crazyness. Madness. Such a unit can't exist!


I'm not sure i would like the reaver that much in SC2, with the cluming of units, he would have to be considerably less powerful than in BW (just like tanks). And just like tanks it would probably get shit on by marines


What's this reaver you speak of?


Reaver with perfect scarab AI? Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8658
LOL, I love catspajamas, he's one of those people I could never picture mad regardless of the circumstance.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Spiner
Profile Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8659
On April 09 2012 08:44 GDbushido wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:41 Havik_ wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:36 PhoenixVoid wrote:
That two-base, two-Colossi with Thermal Lance is looking like a strong build vs Terrans.



Yep. Hit before/as Medivacs are starting to come out and before they get Vikings....



Is there a reason Terrans stopped doing the 1-1-1??
fast colossus crushes 1-1-1


Depends on the version of 1-1-1. If you go with more banshees (3+) you can focus fire the colossus with the tanks and the banshees. Fast colossus works pretty well against the raven 1-1-1
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 08 2012 23:46 GMT
#8660
On April 09 2012 08:46 Mouzone wrote:
Is Squirtle even in code S? He's just crushing everyone this tournament it seems.


Yeah he is
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