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On April 08 2012 19:48 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 19:32 cablesc wrote:On April 08 2012 19:25 00Visor wrote:On April 08 2012 19:04 Azzur wrote:
A slight complaint - not sure why IPL decided to do a double elim for the ro8 - I thought it would be nicer to have single-elimination bo5 with bo7 finals to make it more exciting. I think Bo3 double elim is more fair. If you get a bad matchup or a bracket fuck, you can be out early. Look at MKP vs MMA. You can still do (possibly double) Bo5 finals. (or Bo7 with 1-0 advantage) According to liquipedia it's bo5 semi-finals and bo5 finals. Imagine if the finals was a TvT that goes the full 10 games. see you tomorrow. XD All matches are played out as a best-of-three, with the exception of the Upper Bracket Final and Lower Bracket Final, which are best-of-five, and the Grand Final, which is a best-of-seven.
So we could potentially get a 14 game grand final? Okay that might be a little overkill. Maybe they can just do a bo3 if the lower bracket player wins the first bo7.
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On April 08 2012 20:20 Otolia wrote:Considering the only high level zerg he beat was Zenio at Winter Arena ... This part is more relevant : Korean TLPD
Lucky, LosirA not high level? And you didnt even go to page 2.
If you lay that high standard for "high level" Bombers TvT and TvP aren't much better.
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On April 08 2012 20:31 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 20:20 Otolia wrote:Considering the only high level zerg he beat was Zenio at Winter Arena ... This part is more relevant : Korean TLPD Lucky, LosirA not high level? And you didnt even go to page 2. If you lay that high standard for "high level" Bombers TvT and TvP aren't much better.
Losira has a 44% Korean ZvT win-rate.
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On April 08 2012 20:22 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 19:48 Zealot Orgy wrote:On April 08 2012 19:32 cablesc wrote:On April 08 2012 19:25 00Visor wrote:On April 08 2012 19:04 Azzur wrote:
A slight complaint - not sure why IPL decided to do a double elim for the ro8 - I thought it would be nicer to have single-elimination bo5 with bo7 finals to make it more exciting. I think Bo3 double elim is more fair. If you get a bad matchup or a bracket fuck, you can be out early. Look at MKP vs MMA. You can still do (possibly double) Bo5 finals. (or Bo7 with 1-0 advantage) According to liquipedia it's bo5 semi-finals and bo5 finals. Imagine if the finals was a TvT that goes the full 10 games. see you tomorrow. XD All matches are played out as a best-of-three, with the exception of the Upper Bracket Final and Lower Bracket Final, which are best-of-five, and the Grand Final, which is a best-of-seven. So we could potentially get a 14 game grand final? Okay that might be a little overkill. Maybe they can just do a bo3 if the lower bracket player wins the first bo7.
I believe the Grand Final is a BO5.
edit: Yeah,from IPL twitter: "Attention regarding the infographic for #IPL4: The Winners Final, Losers Final, and Grand Final are ALL best of 5 series. There are no bo7s!"
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On April 08 2012 20:31 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 20:20 Otolia wrote:Considering the only high level zerg he beat was Zenio at Winter Arena ... This part is more relevant : Korean TLPD Lucky, LosirA not high level? And you didnt even go to page 2. If you lay that high standard for "high level" Bombers TvT and TvP aren't much better.
Think again : LosirA lost in Code A this season against TheStC. Lucky was Code S last season but is now in Code A. Furthermore he is more potent in ZvP. Plus results that dates back to 6 months are irrelevant nowadays. Bomber is good in TvZ but not as good as his win percentage could indicate.
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I think there's a 50% chance MKP will have to fight all the way through loser's bracket as MMA has a beastly TvT. I think finals will be Nestea vs MMA (MMA winning) or MMA vs MKP/aLive (too close to call).
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MMA to take it all.
you heard it here first
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is there any chance on catching up with vods somewhere? especially the GSTL finals
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On April 08 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 20:31 00Visor wrote:On April 08 2012 20:20 Otolia wrote:Considering the only high level zerg he beat was Zenio at Winter Arena ... This part is more relevant : Korean TLPD Lucky, LosirA not high level? And you didnt even go to page 2. If you lay that high standard for "high level" Bombers TvT and TvP aren't much better. Think again : LosirA lost in Code A this season against TheStC. Lucky was Code S last season but is now in Code A. Furthermore he is more potent in ZvP. Plus results that dates back to 6 months are irrelevant nowadays. Bomber is good in TvZ but not as good as his win percentage could indicate.
Lol, so we agree. 
I just wanted to deny the statement that his TvZ is bad. (look up the quotes)
Of course win percentages don't exactly indicate skill.
I think Bomber is pretty wellrounded in matchups at the moment.
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On April 08 2012 20:41 I_like_hydras wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 20:22 cablesc wrote:On April 08 2012 19:48 Zealot Orgy wrote:On April 08 2012 19:32 cablesc wrote:On April 08 2012 19:25 00Visor wrote:On April 08 2012 19:04 Azzur wrote:
A slight complaint - not sure why IPL decided to do a double elim for the ro8 - I thought it would be nicer to have single-elimination bo5 with bo7 finals to make it more exciting. I think Bo3 double elim is more fair. If you get a bad matchup or a bracket fuck, you can be out early. Look at MKP vs MMA. You can still do (possibly double) Bo5 finals. (or Bo7 with 1-0 advantage) According to liquipedia it's bo5 semi-finals and bo5 finals. Imagine if the finals was a TvT that goes the full 10 games. see you tomorrow. XD All matches are played out as a best-of-three, with the exception of the Upper Bracket Final and Lower Bracket Final, which are best-of-five, and the Grand Final, which is a best-of-seven. So we could potentially get a 14 game grand final? Okay that might be a little overkill. Maybe they can just do a bo3 if the lower bracket player wins the first bo7. I believe the Grand Final is a BO5. edit: Yeah,from IPL twitter: "Attention regarding the infographic for #IPL4: The Winners Final, Losers Final, and Grand Final are ALL best of 5 series. There are no bo7s!"
oh what?!
I want ma bo7 D;
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Predictions
Note: Very hard to actually predict and I'm sometimes myself struggling to type down the score, yet... thats what I chose.
Quarterfinal
NesTea 1-2 Squirtle
Stephano 2-1 Bomber
MarineKing 2-1 MMA
Polt 1-2 aLive
Semifinal
Squirtle 2-1 Stephano
MarineKing 2-0 aLive
Winners Final
Squirtle 1-3 MarineKing
Losers Round 1
NesTea 2-0 Bomber
MMA 2-1 Polt
Losers Round 2
MMA 2-1 Stephano
NesTea 1-2 aLive
Losers Round 3
MMA 1-2 aLive
Losers Final
aLive 3-2 Squirtle
Overall Final
aLive 1-3 MarineKing
Note: Some matches are insanely hard and could go either way, I am rating Squirtle very high because of his overall PvZ record and the case that he seems to be kind of on fire here. He made it through the very tough open bracket and did show impressive results in groups. NesTea is considered on fire of many people, but I can only rate games I saw and especially against aLive it was more than shaky / error-full of aLive so I don't read much into that.
I hope to see a good tournament overall, so have fun everyone
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haha I weaseled my way out of meetings tomorrow morning to watch Starcraft!
/notgrownupyet
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I just have 2 wishes for this tournament now.. MKP top 3 and I want to see rematch of NesTea vs MarineKing from GSL Open 2!
I'm really interested to see how MKPs TvT is now, his record against MMA is brutal though, 70% win rate against him, and MKP have completely smashed Alive and Polt earlier this year, but thats about 2 months ago.
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stephano... HELL...YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH...!!! GOGOGOGO!!!!!!
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gogogo Terrans and Stephano
I suppose if I could only support two of the terrans it'd be Bomber and MarineKing, but as a terran fanboy any of them winning would be fine with me
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On April 08 2012 21:04 Ancient-Hunter wrote:
haha I weaseled my way out of meetings tomorrow morning to watch Starcraft!
/notgrownupyet
Weaseling out of stuff is important, it's what separates us from the animals... well... except the weasel. - Homer Simpson
Gonna be supporting Stephano, hope he can win, but with NesTeas performance over the last 2 days and MKP being almost unstoppable, I'm not too sure. We'll be entertained no matter what.
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On April 08 2012 20:48 Sooooil wrote:
I think there's a 50% chance MKP will have to fight all the way through loser's bracket as MMA has a beastly TvT. I think finals will be Nestea vs MMA (MMA winning) or MMA vs MKP/aLive (too close to call).
MMA TvT has fallen abit lately, losing to alive and bomber.
Even his wins against byun isn't really impressive, winning the 1st through a greedy 3rd and the 2nd which is a build order win
His TvT is still good, but definately not as good as before so i felt MMA vs MKP will be much closer than we think it is
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On April 08 2012 21:50 Rellit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 20:48 Sooooil wrote:
I think there's a 50% chance MKP will have to fight all the way through loser's bracket as MMA has a beastly TvT. I think finals will be Nestea vs MMA (MMA winning) or MMA vs MKP/aLive (too close to call). MMA TvT has fallen abit lately, losing to alive and bomber. Even his wins against byun isn't really impressive, winning the 1st through a greedy 3rd and the 2nd which is a build order win His TvT is still good, but definately not as good as before so i felt MMA vs MKP will be much closer than we think it is
I think the general opinion is that MKP will take out MMA anyway... at least that's my impression. Let's see...
Poll: MarineKing vs MMAMKP (18) 56% MMA (12) 38% Too close to call (2) 6% 32 total votes Your vote: MarineKing vs MMA (Vote): MKP
(Vote): Too close to call
(Vote): MMA
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EPT
