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On April 07 2012 22:50 trinxified wrote:
Honestly, if Stephano, WhiteRa, and IdrA weren't past winners of previous IPL's (giving direct seed), they wouldn't be there with the groups either.
It would be all Koreans for sure.
Stephano won an offline qualifier in addition to winning IPL 3. Tails is the guy who wouldn't be there if Stephano wasn't a winner of a previous IPL.
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On April 07 2012 22:50 trinxified wrote:
Honestly, if Stephano, WhiteRa, and IdrA weren't past winners of previous IPL's (giving direct seed), they wouldn't be there with the groups either.
It would be all Koreans for sure.
When will people do some research before making such statements?
Whilst Stephano is within the group stage because of his IPL 3 victory, which is just about the most deserving reason to ever be seeded, he also won the IPL 4 UK Qualifiers which would have given him the same seed. However, since he was already going as the IPL 3 champion (again, is this really a problem for the previous champion to be seeded?!?), the IPL 4 UK Qualifier seed went to Tails.
I really don't see why people have to continually go on about Stephano "only being there because of his IPL 3 win", like it was some fluke or useless trash tournament that donated him a seeding place above other more deserving players.
If you want to complain about stupid seeding that harms competition, then look at MLG seeding system which puts repeat attendees so high up the bracket that they barely have to win more than one or two games to finish in the prize money (and therefore earn another high seed for the next tournament).
The real shame of the tournament so far has been that WhiteRa is in trouble despite playing some truly excellent Starcraft yesterday. He made mistakes which were always going to cost him games against players of MKP and Stephano's calibre, but the result shouldn't take away from WhiteRa's excellent play.
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On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game?
Let's be real.
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On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense.
Well those guys are former IPL winners. The only guy that got invited without an IPL win are MC, Nestea and MMA. Yes the two IPL's they won had been without Koreans , still a good arguement for inviting them to be fair.
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On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real.
I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group.
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Only 1 jjakji game the whole night? pretty disappointing.
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On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group.
He could've beaten Stephano but MKP no .
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why does it say games starting in 3 hours which would be about 1pm eastern when if I recall correctly it was kicking off at like 11 or 12?
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On April 07 2012 23:15 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group. He could've beaten Stephano but MKP no .
I guess you haven't seen game 3 between him and MKP then
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If people want to watch random foreigners battling each other, lucky for them, the Gathering is going on at the same time. No need to complain about Koreans at IPL, go watch Nightend vs Grubby vs Snute vs Lucifron is that's your thing.
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On April 07 2012 23:15 Azuroz wrote:
Only 1 jjakji game the whole night? pretty disappointing.
they're streaming 12 games.. a lot of good match ups. it is what it is
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the bright side of TL failing to advance is that they get to party all weekend in vegas.
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On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group.
Did you even watch those games? MKP went 22 ghost composition despite White-Ra's known affinity for Collossi. Why the fuck would he do that other than to showboat for a bit?
Much deserved showboating, considering how much he can actually back it up.
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On April 07 2012 23:16 Jimmy Raynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:15 s3rp wrote:On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group. He could've beaten Stephano but MKP no . I guess you haven't seen game 3 between him and MKP then
i so wanted white-ra to beat mkp, after seeing mkp's build <.<
but the skill difference was too big at the end.
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On April 07 2012 23:20 Kubricks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group. Did you even watch those games? MKP went 22 ghost composition despite White-Ra's known affinity for Collossi. Why the fuck would he do that other than to showboat for a bit? Much deserved showboating, considering how much he can actually back it up.
i thought mkp said that he went 22 ghost because he sorta blindly assumed that white ra would go chargelot archons in the interview after he saw a good amount of zealots?
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On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real.
He got a game off bomber the first match he played?
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Man foreigners really got smashed in the open. Only ones who had a shot of going through were huk, illusion and scarlett. Im suprised Scarlett lost to golden though, he is a step down from Oz and some of the other code S koreans, which she pushed right to the limit.
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On April 07 2012 23:14 Jimmy Raynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 23:13 Dexington wrote:On April 07 2012 23:11 Jimmy Raynor wrote:On April 07 2012 23:04 Dexington wrote:
I've got to say, this tournament has the worst format I've ever seen. Players like White Ra and Idra, who won't win a single game, will leave with $1000 dollars for being invited. Meanwhile, players like Huk, Sase and Illusion, who beat top Koreans, leave with absolutely nothing.
Let's stop with invites in every tournament, they just don't make sense. Wait, are you from the future, and you know that idra and White-Ra won't win a single game? Let's be real. I haven't watched Idra's games yesterday but White-Ra certainly showed that he may have very well been 2-0 in his group.
IdrA played very well against Bomber (IdrA won the first game, but then lost the next two but they were close calls), and then he played against MMA, whose TvZ is pretty much unparalleled (and MMA pretty much roflstomped IdrA, as expected).
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On April 07 2012 23:21 Darpa wrote:
Man foreigners really got smashed in the open. Only ones who had a shot of going through were huk, illusion and scarlett. Im suprised Scarlett lost to golden though, he is a step down from Oz and some of the other code S koreans, which she pushed right to the limit.
Sase was one series away from getting into the pools man, credit where it's due.
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I think Illusion deserves a lot of credit for his run as well. Besides SaSe & HuK.
Illusion 2-0 Zenio
lllusion 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Illusion 2-1 Ryung
Illusion 2-1 Oz
Before he got owned by Creator. I think that is a very good result.
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