EPTjust hoping for Polt vs MMA quarter/semi final.
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
just hoping for Polt vs MMA quarter/semi final. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
On April 07 2012 21:59 Duravi wrote: Go watch pro wrestling, it seems more your speed. This is a sport first and foremost, not a contest of who has a bigger fanbase. Lol only because I dont like that Koreans dominate at IPL and think that it makes the tournament boring I should quit watching Starcraft? I like watching Koreans at the GSL and I like to watch a few Koreans at foreign events but I dont like to watch 28 Koreans in the top 32 of IPL. In the first place SC2 is entertainment, in the 2nd place it is a sport which needs fair competition. But who cares about fair competition if it is not entertaining? A lot of people (not the TL hardcore fans of course) will lose interest in SC2 if every major event is being dominated by an army of Koreans like IPL4. Why do you think Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol etc. get 5-8k viewers on their streams while most Koreans pros dont get more than 1k viewers if everyone just wants to watch the best players? | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4369 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:10 marcesr wrote: Lol only because I dont like that Koreans dominate at IPL and think that it makes the tournament boring I should quit watching Starcraft? I like watching Koreans at the GSL and I like to watch a few Koreans at foreign events but I dont like to watch 28 Koreans in the top 32 of IPL. In the first place SC2 is entertainment, in the 2nd place it is a sport which needs fair competition. But who cares about fair competition if it is not entertaining? A lot of people (not the TL hardcore fans of course) will lose interest in SC2 if every major event is being dominated by an army of Koreans like IPL4. Why do you think Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol etc. get 5-8k viewers on their streams while most Koreans pros dont get more than 1k viewers if everyone just wants to watch the best players? Different settings cant be compared imho. You cant compare what people want to see in the regular stream with what people want to see in a tournament. At least in my opinion in a tournament people want to see great matches with the best players. Regular streams are more about interaction with the audience and watch some cool games mean time (there's no obligation to be one or the other, you can be a great host and still play some sick sick games, the point is, regular streams are completely different experiences from tournament streams because of that host factor). | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
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chroniX
517 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:16 KobraKay wrote: Different settings cant be compared imho. You cant compare what people want to see in the regular stream with what people want to see in a tournament. At least in my opinion in a tournament people want to see great matches with the best players. Regular streams are more about interaction with the audience and watch some cool games mean time (there's no obligation to be one or the other, you can be a great host and still play some sick sick games, the point is, regular streams are completely different experiences from tournament streams because of that host factor). Thats not always the case. People want to see players/matches with personalities, rivalrys, history and in general players with whom they can identify themself and relate to. Koreans, because of their reserved culture, will not deliver those things to the western world. Koreans should teach foreigners the practice discipline and foreigners should show koreans how to present themself. | ||
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Uracil
Germany422 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:10 marcesr wrote: Lol only because I dont like that Koreans dominate at IPL and think that it makes the tournament boring I should quit watching Starcraft? I like watching Koreans at the GSL and I like to watch a few Koreans at foreign events but I dont like to watch 28 Koreans in the top 32 of IPL. In the first place SC2 is entertainment, in the 2nd place it is a sport which needs fair competition. But who cares about fair competition if it is not entertaining? A lot of people (not the TL hardcore fans of course) will lose interest in SC2 if every major event is being dominated by an army of Koreans like IPL4. Why do you think Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol etc. get 5-8k viewers on their streams while most Koreans pros dont get more than 1k viewers if everyone just wants to watch the best players? Well if you don't want to watch a tournament with a lot of Koreans then just don't watch it. There are 3 other tournaments this weekend with no koreans but players like Thorzain, Kas, Mana, Bratok. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
I think every tournament should have a foreigner directly seeded in the finals to make it much more interesting! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:23 skyflyfish wrote: you won;t see many Korean players once Kespa transits to SC2, enjoy while it last Where are they gonna go? While Kespa isn't exactly a crowd favorite from BW, I don't see SC2 pros leaving the game if they think they at least have a chance to make it big. | ||
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iMYoonA
Australia462 Posts
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Normalised
Macedonia27 Posts
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Where are they gonna go? While Kespa isn't exactly a crowd favorite from BW, I don't see SC2 pros leaving the game if they think they at least have a chance to make it big. Maybe he means in koreans in foreign tournaments? Not sure | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
3836 Posts
As long as he doesn't make a single blunder that costs him a whole game, he ought to be able to make a good fight. | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:30 Normalised wrote: why does the stream only run from 10am to 4pm (3pm + duration of last game) thats a bit early to finish isnt it? Because the GSTL finals are afterwards =D | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:32 Jampackedeon wrote: How big is the crowd for sc2? Are you guys doing a good job of filling in the space? Just curious because I was at IPL3 AC and it was lackluster (though still a blast!). I would like to know this too. I was at IPL3 as well in AC and there was a lot of open space, even toward the end of the tournament. I assume the crowd will get bigger now that it's truly the weekend (and approaching the later stages of the tournament). The age restriction probably didn't help. | ||
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johnnysokko
United States30 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:16 KobraKay wrote: Different settings cant be compared imho. You cant compare what people want to see in the regular stream with what people want to see in a tournament. At least in my opinion in a tournament people want to see great matches with the best players. Regular streams are more about interaction with the audience and watch some cool games mean time (there's no obligation to be one or the other, you can be a great host and still play some sick sick games, the point is, regular streams are completely different experiences from tournament streams because of that host factor). Even though tournaments are about finding the best players or teams, people have a rooting interest in certain players or teams. For me, the list of Korean players who I'm rooting for is much smaller than the list of Foriegner players who I'm rooting for. Consequently, when there are very few foreigners left, there are less players who I'm rooting for. Even though the games may be great, it's a little less exciting when it doesn't involve a player I'm rooting for. | ||
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johnnysokko
United States30 Posts
On April 07 2012 20:46 marcesr wrote: A bracket full of random Koreans, looks like GSL. I'll come back to the Ro8 and check if there is still a foreigner left, if not, thanks im done with you IPL. If I want to see a Korean tournament I can go watch GSL Vods with Tastosis. Go watch pro wrestling, it seems more your speed. This is a sport first and foremost, not a contest of who has a bigger fanbase.[/QUOTE] Lol only because I dont like that Koreans dominate at IPL and think that it makes the tournament boring I should quit watching Starcraft? I like watching Koreans at the GSL and I like to watch a few Koreans at foreign events but I dont like to watch 28 Koreans in the top 32 of IPL. In the first place SC2 is entertainment, in the 2nd place it is a sport which needs fair competition. But who cares about fair competition if it is not entertaining? A lot of people (not the TL hardcore fans of course) will lose interest in SC2 if every major event is being dominated by an army of Koreans like IPL4. Why do you think Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol etc. get 5-8k viewers on their streams while most Koreans pros dont get more than 1k viewers if everyone just wants to watch the best players?[/QUOTE] Different settings cant be compared imho. You cant compare what people want to see in the regular stream with what people want to see in a tournament. At least in my opinion in a tournament people want to see great matches with the best players. Regular streams are more about interaction with the audience and watch some cool games mean time (there's no obligation to be one or the other, you can be a great host and still play some sick sick games, the point is, regular streams are completely different experiences from tournament streams because of that host factor).[/QUOTE] Even though tournaments are about finding the best players or teams, people have a rooting interest in certain players or teams. For me, the list of Korean players who I'm rooting for is much smaller than the list of Foriegner players who I'm rooting for. Consequently, when there are very few foreigners left, there are less players who I'm rooting for. Even though the games may be great, it's a little less exciting when it doesn't involve a player I'm rooting for. | ||
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maracuja123
Brazil419 Posts
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