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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership.

This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc.

Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset.
(added page 174)

Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227)
hayata2.0
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada655 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4961
MKP really out to stop trolling before it actually bites him.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4962
On April 07 2012 06:44 .Enigma. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's called showmanship. MKP is trying to make this interesting.


No he's not, White-ra just owned him.

It's really hard to argue that whitera won that game. You can argue that MKP lost it, and the reasoning for it, if it was brain fart, underestimation or was trying to not reveal his strategies against a lesser player, but making 3 robos when you see your opponent is not bothering with fact and going colossi is something I think most toss atleast in master if not lower would be able to do.
keeperton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4963
You guys ever think that maybe MKP was doing a legitimate build and got caught off guard by three robo-colossus? Afterall, he didn't ever really scout more than the natural being up.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4964
On April 07 2012 06:45 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Havefaith wrote:
MKP is being a little tool. I can understand these kids doing these silly builds against idra but he should have more respect for White-ra!

Yeah really, otherwise grandpa toss'll beat you with a cabbage roll and smack that pirogi upside your head.

grandpa toss? don't think much is at IPL D:


I beg your pardon? :S
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stupidhydro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States216 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4965
I don't think mkp was "trolling". His build seemed kind of weird but considering the sheer amount of units he was pumping out due to the fast third and no tech (at one point he was at like 75 scvs to white-ra's 62 probes), he would've demolished any non-colossus build that relied on double forge upgrades (which white-ra was going). It was really White-Ra's good read after seeing only ghost bio and adding on two more robos for three robo collosus that made that look like a joke. Saying "omg MKP is disrespecting white ra by using troll builds" is completely wrong.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4966
On April 07 2012 06:44 scaban84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:42 Ripper41 wrote:
yeah catzpajamas has got to lay off the "best player in the world" crap. so ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous if its the truth?

Because there's a new 'best player' every month...
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4967
On April 07 2012 06:45 IMNasty wrote:
maybe MKP didn't want to show his true builds because of GSTL tomorrow


Isn't that tonight?
Paincakez
Profile Joined March 2011
81 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4968
There is money on the line, nobody in his right mind will troll.

And btw, people underestimating the spechul tactiks of White-Ra, cmon give this old dude some credit hes always been a good player, I'd say on par with MC even.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4969
On April 07 2012 06:45 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:43 Thinasy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.


Indeed.


You don't drop games to "troll" in a tournament where map score counts. Try again...


I don't think MKP had any intention to lose.

It was an extremely sub optimal build though. 22 ghost push isn't good...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4970
On April 07 2012 06:45 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:43 Thinasy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.


Indeed.


You don't drop games to "troll" in a tournament where map score counts. Try again...


Don`t try to use logic with MKP. He does silly things all the time especially MLG. It was a troll build.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4971
On April 07 2012 06:45 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:45 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Thinasy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.


Indeed.


You don't drop games to "troll" in a tournament where map score counts. Try again...


That's your opinion, not a fact.

if he is dropping games to troll, he is pretty stupid.
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4972
I like how the same people would whine the shit out of meta games and meta builds yet every time someone does something unique and new that could and might be potentially risky and on the outside looking stupid - they rage and call it bm.

I'm rooting for WhiteRa, but please. Cut the fucking bullshit. Let MKP do his build.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4973
On April 07 2012 06:45 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:45 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Thinasy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.


Indeed.


You don't drop games to "troll" in a tournament where map score counts. Try again...


That's your opinion, not a fact.


But yours is?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4974
On April 07 2012 06:45 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:43 Thinasy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.


Indeed.


You don't drop games to "troll" in a tournament where map score counts. Try again...

When you can win against Protoss whenever you feel like it, yeah it doesn't matter.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4975
too much dubstep!
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4976
On April 07 2012 06:45 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:31 Femari wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:28 Femari wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:26 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:11 Femari wrote:
I call bullshit on everything having to be in the GSL to mean something. You act like he's not beating Koreans. He beat DRG 5-2. He just got first in his group in GSL. He's doing well everywhere. He is obviously playing the best. You do not need to win a GSL to be playing the best at this moment.

The format of the GSL and the competition is what makes it more important than every other tournament. You have time to prepare for the GSL, time to prepare specifically for one opponent.

The GSL alone does not determine who the best person in SC2 is atm.

I don't think you can be called the best if you can't win a gsl.

In that regard, it does.

Bullshit.

GSL is not always going on. What happens during the downtime and someone's rolling over everyone? Do we just go "LOL THEY HAVENT WON A GSL THEYRE NOT THE BEST"? No. They're playing the best atm, therefore they are the best atm.


It's ultimately a meaningless title of the best when it's devoid of a GSL win.

It's like people calling Stephano the best player in the world. Yeah, he's ripping up foreign tournaments, but in a format like the GSL would he be as successful? I don't know.

Stephano wasn't playing the absolute best players in the world though.

Polt's great and all but I'd hesitate to put him top 10 in the world. MKP was ripping through MC and DRG like it was nothing.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
April 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#4977
I've seen marineking go mass marine vs colossus and win, but even in those games, he got medivacs. This is simply trying to take it too far. Its not like he's playing a mid master player, in which he would win with this build no problem. He's simply trying to play polar opposite to game 1 lol.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#4978
On April 07 2012 06:44 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:43 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:37 XiGua wrote:
Who said White-Ra couldn't play anymore?

HELL YEAH!!

you realize, that MKP is trolling correct?


the worst part is, he isn't trolling. not even close go learn the use of the word.

this is shit MKP does anyway, this is him as a player he does amazing shit he does stupid shit

I'm pretty sure he is putting on a show. Have you seen his regular TvP?


putting on a show, at a tournament where every loss could spell defeat and fuck you over.

yup you're correct

MKP does this at every tournament not named GSL when he is the heavy favorite dude.


no he's just a gimmicky as hell player

he tried it at orlando during the open bracket and it backfired much as it backfired this game

he does this when he is a heavy favorite. The mass hellion build wasnt a gimmick. It was well thought out on that map. This last game was just having some fun. He knows he is gonna win the series. Has it backfired on him before? Yeah it has. But to say he wasn't trolling in that game is wrong
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ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#4979
LOL this community has such double standards.

White-Ra himself plays strange and risky tactics :

SPECIAL TACTICS FTW !

MarineKing does it :

Omg, disrespectful as shit...

Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#4980
On April 07 2012 06:42 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:41 fritos wrote:
MKP is trying to be too "Cool" for himself.....

I still remember an Orlando loss versus Drewbie that cost him first in the pool and his best shot at the tournament.

It didn't he came first when he beat IdrA. He then lost to Huk.

He said in an interview that it was a mistake but people kept on saying he was trolling and just fucked up the trolling part..
In the same tournament he floated his CC to the gold on meta and people said he was trolling.
He also went for that thor build against IdrA and people said he was trolling.

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
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