people need to make their mind up, lets use an analogy to solve this

players play to win right? take every advantage you get

lets say im playing football and i get tackled it looks bad but it's actually nothing should i go down and get their player carded?
im in the penalty area and i feel a faint push on my back, i should dive to the ground and get a penalty right?

do these relate to starcraft? not really nor do they relate to disconnecting but at what point is the line between being a levelheaded decent player and being a play to win step over everyone and everything player?

Now you are just being purposefully stupid.

Do I really have to explain how breaking the rules to win isn't the same as respecting the decision of the referee?

Warlike Prince

371 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

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On April 08 2012 12:46 masakenji wrote:

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he shoulve guardian shield instead of 2 useless forcefields.

you sure the energy was on 1 sentry ? im on low qual i couldnt tell

Ozzon

Poland110 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8124

On April 08 2012 12:45 Elthreann wrote:

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I agree no need to hate the player

Exactly, how the fuck, does anyone except a progamer to throw a fuckin game and just let his team lose??? WTF? everyone would want a regame, what the hell are you people smoking?

whiterabbit

2675 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8125

On April 08 2012 12:46 Maghetti wrote:
Wahy to ruin the finals mkp :/

By being better then everyone else? Oh you...

HGurryp

275 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8126

mkp doesnt deserve this, sad

NipponBanzai

Canada518 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8127

On April 08 2012 12:46 MVega wrote:

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Ruined by the computer losing connection to the local network. LAN support wouldn't have saved that game. According to one of the IPL tech guys.

He thinks that if you have a wired connection that you can't lose connection to your local network.

Corsica

Ukraine1854 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8128

Worst gsl final ever.........

blacksheepwall

China1530 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8129

Still effin' love these map intros.

NachiMe

250 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8130

On April 08 2012 12:46 justinpal wrote:

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Or make zealots? Let's make immortals against marines!

Don't be ridiculous. He made the immortals to get rid of the bunkers and deal with marauders, he didn't make any new ones after he retreated, he just used his original immortals to defend.

Sif_

Brazil3106 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8131

On April 08 2012 12:45 ravenKRaz wrote:

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sorry no

MKP is here to stay! watch him win gstl/ipl4 and go back to korea and conquer gsl

woob

United Kingdom1322 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8132

i love mkp

but he should be fucking out

Silentness

United States2821 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8133

On April 08 2012 12:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
I've honestly never felt this sad during a finals since the Flash/Jaedong outage... you know honestly this is even worse, this is just a disaster, can't believe this is happening.

I wish I had just gone to bed after IPL, this is just hard to watch...

lol I agree. This is so horrible to watch, but I can't stop watching ROFL. The suspense is killing me to see how awkward this will be when MKP is awarded the MVP award.

Jongl0

631 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8134

Really hoping Curious can turn the tides.

Sikly

United States413 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8135

Why the fuck are people not voting to watch game 6. That was a super fun game to watch. The polls are so fucking biased by the 1% of people pissed at Prime/MKP, probably shouldn't even be putting them up at this point.

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

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On April 08 2012 12:46 Dodgin wrote:

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No one is really hating on MKP.

We're all just sad and mad and people are posting nonsense to vent their emotions.

I don't hate MKP, I hate the fact that he was awarded a regame that I don't think he deserved. Parting had that, easy.

Postman

United States269 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

#8137

On April 08 2012 12:46 scDeluX wrote:

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Blame the technology, it's not here yet.

Blame Blizzard. The technology exists in other games, but they haven't implemented it.

Tobblish

Sweden6404 Posts

April 08 2012 03:47 GMT

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On April 08 2012 12:46 Redmark wrote:

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On April 08 2012 12:44 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:42 TheNessman wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:40 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:37 MahE wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:36 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:34 MahE wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
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Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

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I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.

Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.

I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!

What do you think of this:
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Isn't it horrible fucking form for them to do this, even if they aren't outright rigging the match?

if the only thing in their rules was a "regame" then they stuck to their rules. I just hope all the major tournaments think of a better way of dealing with situations like this. This is how the tournament scenes get better and better -- the problem first needs to surface itself. It sucks for parting but I hope StarTale's loss tonight is at least justified in the future by organizers thinking of better solutions.

There IS a system in place. The rule is that in the case of this kind of situation, the game is only a regame if it's impossible to make a call on the winner. Which is NOT the case.

Is it really impossible?

I think nearly every person I've talked to had a very clear idea that Parting had a massive advantage and probably would have rolled it to victory.

My point is: there are better solutions than a "clean" regame to give players who were ahead an advantage, and I hope all the tournament organizers look into them.

I honestly can't think of any solutions besides Re-game, or awarding a win to a player

Make it into a BO3, with Parting ahead 1-0

Let's say Parting had the game 75% won, and Parting can beat MKP 50% of the time. (hypothetically)

Then Parting just needs to win once in the next two games which ends up being 75%.

Another option is to let the regame happen in a map that Parting picks.

Another option is to award StarTale a point, but MKP can keep playing in a regame (okay this is stupid, but it's an "option").

There's many ways to deal with this that transfers an advantage.

You can't change it after the fact though.

We need to agree on a set of standard rules that all tournaments adopt, so that when shit like this happens no one can complain about the result. Too bad it'll never happen.

Like gold minerals only on IPL maps?