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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
Translucent25
Profile Joined April 2011
United States68 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8121
MKP for the win!!!!
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8122
On April 08 2012 12:36 Denzil wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:33 Desiato wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 ninjamyst wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:29 SeeKeR wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 DizzySheep wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 SeeKeR wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if during the Ro32 Code S match, MKP comes out with gray hair...

imagine the stress on him right now....


He shouldn't be..the regame wasn't decided by him.

Doesn't change the fact that he KNOWS ppl are going to blame him, his team, GOMtv, etc. etc. Ppl WILL bitch about this no matter what. MKP MUST be feeling horrible right now


and he had a choice in it too. he could have told the refs to award the win to parting.

...people should expect players to take winning seriously. This isn't some little league game where the players are supposed to feel good about themselves. their goal is to win.


people need to make their mind up, lets use an analogy to solve this

players play to win right? take every advantage you get

lets say im playing football and i get tackled it looks bad but it's actually nothing should i go down and get their player carded?
im in the penalty area and i feel a faint push on my back, i should dive to the ground and get a penalty right?

do these relate to starcraft? not really nor do they relate to disconnecting but at what point is the line between being a levelheaded decent player and being a play to win step over everyone and everything player?

Now you are just being purposefully stupid.

Do I really have to explain how breaking the rules to win isn't the same as respecting the decision of the referee?
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8123
On April 08 2012 12:46 masakenji wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:44 Lunares wrote:
Don't understand how squirtle botched that defense so badly without using his probes correctly...


he shoulve guardian shield instead of 2 useless forcefields.


you sure the energy was on 1 sentry ? im on low qual i couldnt tell
Ozzon
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:47:42
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8124
On April 08 2012 12:45 Elthreann wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:40 Doublemint wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:38 grush57 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:36 AegiS_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:32 FrodoAndTheSlobStix wrote:
Man this is so hard to watch , extremely awkward every one knows mkp lost, and it's not mkps fault but now he will be the face of it. MKP will have haters, it will ruin him. Just a disaster/ these games are probally some of the best ever.

Maru vs july. banshees and ravens with bane mines. I mean best games ever. bomber vs mkp was the best tvt and game in general that I was so emotionally involved in. But wow, it all means nothing. Huge disaster in the e.sports scene. I dont know what to think.


WTF who is hating on him?

no one reasonable/ respected would hate on MKP and not Bnet for the loss.

please stfu about this and move on. yeah lan would be nice but we're not getting it.

and btw, mkps fans will always out number his "haters" by probably 10,000:1


Have you been reading the thread at all? There are like 100 posts of people saying how they lost respect for MKP.

Yea this is one of the worst LR threads i've seen


Why the fuck would you hate MKP for accepting a regame? LOL... I hate the decision but MKP is the last one I would blame for it...


I agree no need to hate the player


Exactly, how the fuck, does anyone except a progamer to throw a fuckin game and just let his team lose??? WTF? everyone would want a regame, what the hell are you people smoking?
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8125
On April 08 2012 12:46 Maghetti wrote:
Wahy to ruin the finals mkp :/


By being better then everyone else? Oh you...
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8126
mkp doesnt deserve this, sad
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8127
On April 08 2012 12:46 MVega wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:44 zhurai wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:43 Warlike Prince wrote:
finals ruined by a regame ..

they should field sase as a form of protest

and because ...


I BELIEVE

Ruined by Blizzard



Ruined by the computer losing connection to the local network. LAN support wouldn't have saved that game. According to one of the IPL tech guys.


He thinks that if you have a wired connection that you can't lose connection to your local network.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8128
Worst gsl final ever.........
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8129
Still effin' love these map intros.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8130
On April 08 2012 12:46 justinpal wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:45 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Can't believe Squirtle didn't even try to pull Probes. What the fuck?


Or make zealots? Let's make immortals against marines!

Don't be ridiculous. He made the immortals to get rid of the bunkers and deal with marauders, he didn't make any new ones after he retreated, he just used his original immortals to defend.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8131
On April 08 2012 12:45 ravenKRaz wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:45 Sif_ wrote:
BONJWA!!!!

sorry no


MKP is here to stay! watch him win gstl/ipl4 and go back to korea and conquer gsl
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8132
i love mkp

but he should be fucking out
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8133
On April 08 2012 12:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
I've honestly never felt this sad during a finals since the Flash/Jaedong outage... you know honestly this is even worse, this is just a disaster, can't believe this is happening.

I wish I had just gone to bed after IPL, this is just hard to watch...


lol I agree. This is so horrible to watch, but I can't stop watching ROFL. The suspense is killing me to see how awkward this will be when MKP is awarded the MVP award.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8134
Really hoping Curious can turn the tides.
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8135
Why the fuck are people not voting to watch game 6. That was a super fun game to watch. The polls are so fucking biased by the 1% of people pissed at Prime/MKP, probably shouldn't even be putting them up at this point.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8136
On April 08 2012 12:46 Dodgin wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:45 mythandier wrote:
Why so much hate on MKP?

It wasn't his decision


No one is really hating on MKP.

We're all just sad and mad and people are posting nonsense to vent their emotions.

I don't hate MKP, I hate the fact that he was awarded a regame that I don't think he deserved. Parting had that, easy.
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8137
On April 08 2012 12:46 scDeluX wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:45 fishinguy wrote:
I feel sad for GOM, a finals that is ruined by a regame . Really cant blame prime or even the ref, I mean what could he have done there?


Blame the technology, it's not here yet.

Blame Blizzard. The technology exists in other games, but they haven't implemented it.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8138
On April 08 2012 12:46 Redmark wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:44 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:42 TheNessman wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:40 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:37 MahE wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:36 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:34 MahE wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
[quote]

Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

[quote]

I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.


I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!


What do you think of this:
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Isn't it horrible fucking form for them to do this, even if they aren't outright rigging the match?


if the only thing in their rules was a "regame" then they stuck to their rules. I just hope all the major tournaments think of a better way of dealing with situations like this. This is how the tournament scenes get better and better -- the problem first needs to surface itself. It sucks for parting but I hope StarTale's loss tonight is at least justified in the future by organizers thinking of better solutions.


There IS a system in place. The rule is that in the case of this kind of situation, the game is only a regame if it's impossible to make a call on the winner. Which is NOT the case.


Is it really impossible?

I think nearly every person I've talked to had a very clear idea that Parting had a massive advantage and probably would have rolled it to victory.

My point is: there are better solutions than a "clean" regame to give players who were ahead an advantage, and I hope all the tournament organizers look into them.


I honestly can't think of any solutions besides Re-game, or awarding a win to a player


Make it into a BO3, with Parting ahead 1-0

Let's say Parting had the game 75% won, and Parting can beat MKP 50% of the time. (hypothetically)

Then Parting just needs to win once in the next two games which ends up being 75%.

Another option is to let the regame happen in a map that Parting picks.

Another option is to award StarTale a point, but MKP can keep playing in a regame (okay this is stupid, but it's an "option").

There's many ways to deal with this that transfers an advantage.

You can't change it after the fact though.

We need to agree on a set of standard rules that all tournaments adopt, so that when shit like this happens no one can complain about the result. Too bad it'll never happen.


Like gold minerals only on IPL maps?
The curse is real
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8139
MKP is currently the best player in the world.
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:49:35
April 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#8140
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
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