I've honestly never felt this sad during a finals since the Flash/Jaedong outage... you know honestly this is even worse, this is just a disaster, can't believe this is happening.

I wish I had just gone to bed after IPL, this is just hard to watch...

Warlike Prince

371 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8083

On April 08 2012 12:44 Superlative wrote:
Continue to talk about "LAN" will fix this. When the drop was caused by a hardware error

were you not watching the stream?

wolf got a headphone update

NET PROBLEM, NOT a hardware problem

Maghetti

United States2429 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8084

Wahy to ruin the finals mkp :/

tdt

United States3179 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8085

Squirtle messed that up that sure win with wasted FF and no zealots and no micro and pulled probes stuck behind stalkers.

justinpal

United States3810 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8086

On April 08 2012 12:45 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Can't believe Squirtle didn't even try to pull Probes. What the fuck?

Or make zealots? Let's make immortals against marines!

Wein

Brazil452 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8087

Why everyone is voting "NO?"

waterboy1985

Belarus22 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8088

On April 08 2012 12:45 Fischbacher wrote:

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To be fair, he shouldn't be playing right now :/

couldnt agree more, i just lost abit of the joy watching this event now

scDeluX

Canada1341 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8089

On April 08 2012 12:45 fishinguy wrote:
I feel sad for GOM, a finals that is ruined by a regame

. Really cant blame prime or even the ref, I mean what could he have done there?

Blame the technology, it's not here yet.

Denzil

United Kingdom4193 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8090

On April 08 2012 12:44 setzer wrote:
Didn't know there were so many morally superior people here that would, in MKP's position, forfeit a regame and supersede the responsibility that falls on the referee. I suppose you would be perfectly fine to throw your entire team, the people you live and practice with, under a bus just to keep the "integrity" of the game in check.

if my team can't kill parting then they don't deserve to win thats how this format works if you can't beat someone you don't deserve to win

parting beat mkp if prime didn't have an answer they dont deserve to win

jeeneeus

1168 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8091

Loading from replays seems like a splendid idea. And Dota 2 does have it, so the technology exists. It won't cause piracy like lan possibly could. And it would solve hardware problems too. Someone should make a good post about it so word gets out.

noddy

United Kingdom927 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8092

MarineKing is 7-1 vs Parting recently.

Please stop hating, he has proven he is the better player out of the two.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8093

On April 08 2012 12:43 anonymitylol wrote:
Why not SaSe?

Needs more time in the pot to soak up the Korean broth. Still too raw. Soon though....very soon....oh yes....so soon....I can taste it.....

Tobblish

Sweden6404 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8094

On April 08 2012 12:45 synaptik wrote:

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really? to take out mkp?

No offense but SaSe is not even on the map atm.
I'm a fan of SaSe but even you as a fan has to know the limits of a player.

synapse

China13814 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8095

omg medivacs are ridiculously good LOL
the thought of needing to focus fire marines is just....

vndods

United States3743 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8096

On April 08 2012 12:45 Dismay wrote:

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unreal all-in

More like fucking brilliant game sense.

masakenji

Australia415 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8097

On April 08 2012 12:44 Lunares wrote:
Don't understand how squirtle botched that defense so badly without using his probes correctly...

he shoulve guardian shield instead of 2 useless forcefields.

Warlike Prince

371 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8098

On April 08 2012 12:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
I've honestly never felt this sad during a finals since the Flash/Jaedong outage... you know honestly this is even worse, this is just a disaster, can't believe this is happening.

I wish I had just gone to bed after IPL, this is just hard to watch...

But the drama.... IT FEEDS ME !!!!!!!!!!!!

Redmark

Canada2129 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8099

On April 08 2012 12:44 Milkis wrote:

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On April 08 2012 12:42 TheNessman wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:40 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:37 MahE wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:36 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:34 MahE wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:33 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:

On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
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So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene

Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.

I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.

Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.

I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!

What do you think of this:
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Isn't it horrible fucking form for them to do this, even if they aren't outright rigging the match?

if the only thing in their rules was a "regame" then they stuck to their rules. I just hope all the major tournaments think of a better way of dealing with situations like this. This is how the tournament scenes get better and better -- the problem first needs to surface itself. It sucks for parting but I hope StarTale's loss tonight is at least justified in the future by organizers thinking of better solutions.

There IS a system in place. The rule is that in the case of this kind of situation, the game is only a regame if it's impossible to make a call on the winner. Which is NOT the case.

Is it really impossible?

I think nearly every person I've talked to had a very clear idea that Parting had a massive advantage and probably would have rolled it to victory.

My point is: there are better solutions than a "clean" regame to give players who were ahead an advantage, and I hope all the tournament organizers look into them.

I honestly can't think of any solutions besides Re-game, or awarding a win to a player

Make it into a BO3, with Parting ahead 1-0

Let's say Parting had the game 75% won, and Parting can beat MKP 50% of the time. (hypothetically)

Then Parting just needs to win once in the next two games which ends up being 75%.

Another option is to let the regame happen in a map that Parting picks.

Another option is to award StarTale a point, but MKP can keep playing in a regame (okay this is stupid, but it's an "option").

There's many ways to deal with this that transfers an advantage.

You can't change it after the fact though.

We need to agree on a set of standard rules that all tournaments adopt, so that when shit like this happens no one can complain about the result. Too bad it'll never happen.

zhurai

United States5660 Posts

April 08 2012 03:46 GMT

#8100

On April 08 2012 12:46 MVega wrote:

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Ruined by the computer losing connection to the local network. LAN support wouldn't have saved that game. According to one of the IPL tech guys.

wrong

eventually I''ll have to start quoting myself zzz