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Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
March 27 2012 12:32 GMT
#1601
On March 27 2012 21:29 Ruscour wrote:
I wish there was a way to differentiate 2rax and 2rax, as in, the gasless early 2rax that owns nexus first, or the reactor techlab 2rax that...owns nexus first. I dunno what you'd change, and they make sense in context, but it's when you say "oh he won that game with a 2rax" you're left wondering which 2rax it was.

I dunno, pointless rant I suppose, just a tad irritating.


Really map dependent though, on a map like daybreak where its so easy to hide a rax in a proxy location. It should become the norm for players to scout for a proxy rax on certain maps like that using their scout probe.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
March 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#1602
On March 27 2012 21:28 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:25 silverstyle wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:23 Kraznaya wrote:
People saying hero threw the game away : go check how early maru's third orbital was completed.


Which basically put maru only on equal footing with HerO.

HerO lost it when he warped in 2 sentries against the marine run by, then attacked with his probes, then his units, pulling back his units then sending them back in again. Maru basically did the maximum possible damage he could possibly dream of..


People keep missing that, regardless if right or wrong, Hero did this for a reason. His Nexus had very little hitpoints from the earlier bunker damage, and could've easily been focused down by those marines very quickly. So the sentries and the probe pull/attack were to buy time so he didn't lose his nexus. He did save the Nexus, but the damage done set of the chain reaction which led to the loss.

Pretty important to realise why he did what he did though. It was the difference between keeping all 3 bases, and being down to 2.

Nexus did regen all its shields though. So it was around 1100hp. And Hero's army was just a couple seconds away from the marines when he sent his probes to combat marines in a choke
A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
InformationTV
Profile Joined February 2012
United States41 Posts
March 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#1603
hero behinds at the beginning remember?? then hero lost 35 workers mid game. Losing his 3rd and robo just added insult to injury.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#1604
On March 27 2012 21:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Royal Road, successor, MarinePrincePrime (MPP), heir to the throne, Maru (means "a violent storm" in estonian) is so easy to root for ^^


Can he be Royal Road if he's been in GSL before? =/ Pretty sure he can't.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#1605
On March 27 2012 21:33 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Royal Road, successor, MarinePrincePrime (MPP), heir to the throne, Maru (means "a violent storm" in estonian) is so easy to root for ^^


Can he be Royal Road if he's been in GSL before? =/ Pretty sure he can't.


He's never been in Code S before, which is like the same as getting past the prelims for the first time in the OSL or something.
frostalgia
Profile Joined March 2011
United States178 Posts
March 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#1606
it was inevitable that once terrans made minor adjustments, the protoss patch buffs would get negated.
their race is just superior, they have too many options.
now medivacs make forcefields useless.. what next, a seeker-missle/BC late game?
hopefully by HotS they figure out how to not allow terrans to so easily exploit weaknesses compared to the other two races.

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we are all but shadows in the void
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#1607
based on curious results..I'm assuming he's strong in zvt
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#1608
On March 27 2012 21:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:33 bittman wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Royal Road, successor, MarinePrincePrime (MPP), heir to the throne, Maru (means "a violent storm" in estonian) is so easy to root for ^^


Can he be Royal Road if he's been in GSL before? =/ Pretty sure he can't.


He's never been in Code S before, which is like the same as getting past the prelims for the first time in the OSL or something.


We'll have the time to discuss this issue later on. Now, go Gumiho, wanna see more tvt
Zest fanboy.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 12:35:16
March 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#1609
On March 27 2012 21:33 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Royal Road, successor, MarinePrincePrime (MPP), heir to the throne, Maru (means "a violent storm" in estonian) is so easy to root for ^^


Can he be Royal Road if he's been in GSL before? =/ Pretty sure he can't.

Code A is a qualification for Code S which is the main tournement. So yes he can


On March 27 2012 21:34 Sc2Null wrote:
based on curious results..I'm assuming he's strong in zvt

His ZvT last season was rather medicore, he was slaugtered in Ro16
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
March 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#1610
Any screencaps of Maru and the win screen?
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#1611
On March 27 2012 21:34 frostalgia wrote:
it was inevitable that once terrans made minor adjustments, the protoss patch buffs would get negated.
their race is just superior, they have too many options.
now medivacs make forcefields useless.. what next, a seeker-missle/BC late game?
hopefully by HotS they figure out how to not allow terrans to so easily exploit weaknesses compared to the other two races.


Stop whining. Hero choked hard in that game. Dun blame balance.
Play your best
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
March 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#1612
Axtually his only win on entombed valley is against...DRG :D
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 12:35:43
March 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#1613
I just want to say how happy I am to so see many old school bw fans are showing love for sc2. Back in beta threads like these were a war zone between tl newcomers and the older guys.
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 12:36:27
March 27 2012 12:36 GMT
#1614
It really annoys me how the casters are impressed by EVERY single thing the players do :D

I SO miss Tastosis
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
March 27 2012 12:36 GMT
#1615
On March 27 2012 21:30 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:28 Angel_ wrote:
...people are seriously making flash comparisons?


Well it's pretty easy to do, flash was really young too when he started, and he became a notorious cheeser when he took out Bisu, right?


and tell me, who is the Bisu of starcraft 2? Players still fluctuate so badly in SC2 that even someone doing well looks less from it because frankly, they don't have consistent competition. Yet.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
March 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#1616
On March 27 2012 21:33 gakkgakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:28 Pure-SC2 wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:25 silverstyle wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:23 Kraznaya wrote:
People saying hero threw the game away : go check how early maru's third orbital was completed.


Which basically put maru only on equal footing with HerO.

HerO lost it when he warped in 2 sentries against the marine run by, then attacked with his probes, then his units, pulling back his units then sending them back in again. Maru basically did the maximum possible damage he could possibly dream of..


People keep missing that, regardless if right or wrong, Hero did this for a reason. His Nexus had very little hitpoints from the earlier bunker damage, and could've easily been focused down by those marines very quickly. So the sentries and the probe pull/attack were to buy time so he didn't lose his nexus. He did save the Nexus, but the damage done set of the chain reaction which led to the loss.

Pretty important to realise why he did what he did though. It was the difference between keeping all 3 bases, and being down to 2.

Nexus did regen all its shields though. So it was around 1100hp. And Hero's army was just a couple seconds away from the marines when he sent his probes to combat marines in a choke


Yea, I agree, but just trying to highlight that there was more to it than hero just choking and pulling his probes to attack, he was buying time to save the nexus, but it turned out to be the wrong decision.... It would've ended different if he'd had 2 more sentries to complete that sentry wall, or had his army back 5 seconds earlier....

But that's why we love these games, the result can be balanced on a knife edge and one wrong decision can and will cost you the game
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#1617
On March 27 2012 21:34 frostalgia wrote:
it was inevitable that once terrans made minor adjustments, the protoss patch buffs would get negated.
their race is just superior, they have too many options.
now medivacs make forcefields useless.. what next, a seeker-missle/BC late game?
hopefully by HotS they figure out how to not allow terrans to so easily exploit weaknesses compared to the other two races.


wtf are you talking about.

It's not like picking up units to save them from Forcefield is new. People did this for ages. oO
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#1618
On March 27 2012 21:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 21:33 bittman wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Royal Road, successor, MarinePrincePrime (MPP), heir to the throne, Maru (means "a violent storm" in estonian) is so easy to root for ^^


Can he be Royal Road if he's been in GSL before? =/ Pretty sure he can't.


He's never been in Code S before, which is like the same as getting past the prelims for the first time in the OSL or something.


Hmm but he was also in the GSL Open Season 1 and has been in 3 Code A's before making it here finally.

Thus is anyone who comes from Code A to S for the first time a potential Royal Roader? It's far less impressive than I imagined it to be then if that's the case. I thought it would be a complete prelim -> tournament -> champion flawless run.

Still impressive of course, but I imagined it more interestingly since it was first thrown around for ForGG. Even though you know there had been like 50 previous Code S newbies last year with the same chance.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 27 2012 12:38 GMT
#1619
I love how khaldor is right..when he's repeating the exact same things wolf just said
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
March 27 2012 12:38 GMT
#1620
On March 27 2012 21:36 Ficetool wrote:
It really annoys me how the casters are impressed by EVERY single thing the players do :D

I SO miss Tastosis


And Tastosis doesnt do this? In fact they do it even more than these guys, especially when Artosis goes fanboy mode......
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