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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3761
I really like when commercials begins with 10 times the volume.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3762
On March 24 2012 09:47 Porcelina wrote:
To be fair, we had a really tense and enjoyable PvZ to watch earlier today in Leenock v HerO in GSTL. HerO went up to three bases but was unable to hold; however his control and decision making was not really that good and basically cost him the game.

But the newer generation of Protoss do not play it like what we just saw. And at least for now I am pretty confident that they will be better off in the long run. Even Genius, prior to the finals, has shown some fantastic get to three base and expand slowly type of PvZ.

Expecting it out of HuK, MC et al is probably not a good bet though.

Well, perhaps MC will prove me wrong. I have given up trying to predict how he will play his series anymore.


I agree, there are people out there doing new things in this matchup and doing it well. It's just catching on really slowly, so we still see timing based play in lots of games. Watch a series of Hero, Oz or Genius vs zerg, or even players that we rarely get to see like Squirtle and Sage You aren't going to see a 7gate all in every game, I guarantee it. There are innovators out there, but there are just more people sticking with the tried and tested style right now.
@x5_MegaFonzie
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 00:54:15
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3763
On March 24 2012 09:47 duct_TAPE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:43 I_like_hydras wrote:
Why are you guys hating 2 base attacks? How else is he suposed to win vs zerg?


By expanding and taking more bases. It's not impossible for protoss to take more than their natural.


lol wut? Did you see any games where protoss took fast third vs zerg? He got either overrun with roaches or demolished by mutas. And thats not a balance complaint, thats just a straight fact.

On the other hand, imo protosses should finally find out, that HTs with storm are fucking good against zerg, better than collosi for sure. Also that build Socke used against Ret in game 1 was just pure awesome <3
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3764
Hey, Demuslim did beat Nestea, and even though people say he has bad ZvT he stil has one of the top ZvT's in the world. Either way, I don't think Demuslim can win, but it won't be roflstopmp.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3765
On March 24 2012 09:52 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:51 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:50 Jaegeru wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:45 Olinim wrote:
lol. no one complained when MKP did a 2 base timing vs MC. Sure he took a 3rd after he basically won the game, but it was still a 2 base.



He adjusted his build to what he saw when MC was doing a parting styled fast third base so he two based him and got an advantage leading to him winning.

But to be honest watching MKP two base is alot better than HuK since MKP doesn't do the exact same thing every game and varies his play up.


Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. MKP prepared to 2base looooong before he scouted the 3base from MC.

Luckily, MKP is a total boss and even manages to be incredibly entertaining with blind 2base all-ins.


People really need to understand the difference between a timing and an all in.


A timing is a build done by a player you like.
An allin is a build done by one you dont.
IM THE SHIT BITCH
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3766
On March 24 2012 09:52 Mithridates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:50 Jaegeru wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:45 Olinim wrote:
lol. no one complained when MKP did a 2 base timing vs MC. Sure he took a 3rd after he basically won the game, but it was still a 2 base.



He adjusted his build to what he saw when MC was doing a parting styled fast third base so he two based him and got an advantage leading to him winning.

But to be honest watching MKP two base is alot better than HuK since MKP doesn't do the exact same thing every game and varies his play up.


MKP is a known cheeser. Playing him up as a paragon of macro player is a complete joke. He 2 raxes all the time because he knows it gives him a good chance to win. Huk is no different


Not really a cheeser but a player who prefers Micro over Macro. And Micro is at its best when you're low supply and less bases...
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3767
On March 24 2012 09:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:51 IMNasty wrote:
are these guys really hyping demuslim

What do you want them to say?

"DRG is going to annihilate demuslim 2-0. Demuslim already lost to haypro this tournament. DRG is the best player in the world. I don't even know why you guys would want to watch this. It's going to be ridiculously one sided and terrible. Go watch another stream"

is that better?



Yes, actually.


wajd
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
240 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3768
On March 24 2012 09:50 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:49 wajd wrote:
After pool play will open bracket matches be on the streams tonight?


Not tonight.


not even stephano vs polt ?
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3769
On March 24 2012 09:50 Jaegeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:45 Olinim wrote:
lol. no one complained when MKP did a 2 base timing vs MC. Sure he took a 3rd after he basically won the game, but it was still a 2 base.



He adjusted his build to what he saw when MC was doing a parting styled fast third base so he two based him and got an advantage leading to him winning.

But to be honest watching MKP two base is alot better than HuK since MKP doesn't do the exact same thing every game and varies his play up.


No one goes mass marine/tank/banshee to go into a macro game, are you kidding? MKP intended to abuse the map to his advantage with a two base all-in that he used to awkwardly go into bio, hence why it took so long to win despite the crippling damage.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#3770
Open bracket round 2 results begin to appear, Stephano and wbc are in round three now.
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3771
On March 24 2012 09:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:51 IMNasty wrote:
are these guys really hyping demuslim

What do you want them to say?

"DRG is going to annihilate demuslim 2-0. Demuslim already lost to haypro this tournament. DRG is the best player in the world. I don't even know why you guys would want to watch this. It's going to be ridiculously one sided and terrible. Go watch another stream"

is that better?


Actually yes. When I watch football (soccer) I am not outright lied to, if someone plays bad they don't hold back and when Barcelona play Almeria, they don't act like Almeria aren't likely in for a stomping.
PradamadeR
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3772
one question, if there is a tie.. how it get managed? individual score or map score ?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3773
On March 24 2012 09:52 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:51 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:50 Jaegeru wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:45 Olinim wrote:
lol. no one complained when MKP did a 2 base timing vs MC. Sure he took a 3rd after he basically won the game, but it was still a 2 base.



He adjusted his build to what he saw when MC was doing a parting styled fast third base so he two based him and got an advantage leading to him winning.

But to be honest watching MKP two base is alot better than HuK since MKP doesn't do the exact same thing every game and varies his play up.


Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. MKP prepared to 2base looooong before he scouted the 3base from MC.

Luckily, MKP is a total boss and even manages to be incredibly entertaining with blind 2base all-ins.


People really need to understand the difference between a timing and an all in.


Point taken. I hereby amend that to be "blind 2base timings".
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3774
On March 24 2012 09:53 KimJongChill wrote:
Hey, Demuslim did beat Nestea, and even though people say he has bad ZvT he stil has one of the top ZvT's in the world. Either way, I don't think Demuslim can win, but it won't be roflstopmp.


nestea threw away the game on shakuras though
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3775
On March 24 2012 09:53 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:51 IMNasty wrote:
are these guys really hyping demuslim

What do you want them to say?

"DRG is going to annihilate demuslim 2-0. Demuslim already lost to haypro this tournament. DRG is the best player in the world. I don't even know why you guys would want to watch this. It's going to be ridiculously one sided and terrible. Go watch another stream"

is that better?



Yes, actually.



Then why even tune into the DRG vs Demuslim stream in the first place if you want them to say that? just watch parting vs oz
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3776
Demu has been playing a lot better of late. I would put him in the same category as Grubby in terms of stepping up their game, but they still have a long ways to go.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3777
On March 24 2012 09:53 sOda~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:52 Asha` wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:51 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:50 Jaegeru wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:45 Olinim wrote:
lol. no one complained when MKP did a 2 base timing vs MC. Sure he took a 3rd after he basically won the game, but it was still a 2 base.



He adjusted his build to what he saw when MC was doing a parting styled fast third base so he two based him and got an advantage leading to him winning.

But to be honest watching MKP two base is alot better than HuK since MKP doesn't do the exact same thing every game and varies his play up.


Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. MKP prepared to 2base looooong before he scouted the 3base from MC.

Luckily, MKP is a total boss and even manages to be incredibly entertaining with blind 2base all-ins.


People really need to understand the difference between a timing and an all in.


A timing is a build done by a player you like.
An allin is a build done by one you dont.


Bwahahaha you win good sir, you win.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#3778
On March 24 2012 09:52 Niteblade_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:51 Asha` wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:50 Niteblade_ wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:44 JohnnyBlaze420 wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:42 Dali. wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:41 Asha` wrote:
Another 2 base all in -___-

Dunno how this guy ever wins, terrible series.


Problem?


dude this girl is like the biggest huk hater...every lr thread just hatin. sall good just keep provin em wrong huk


Fixed


lol'd



Glad you liked it I went to boyscouts! (and read the guidebook

^^ Asha is such a hater tho. Shame on her.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 24 2012 00:55 GMT
#3779
On March 24 2012 09:53 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 09:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 24 2012 09:51 IMNasty wrote:
are these guys really hyping demuslim

What do you want them to say?

"DRG is going to annihilate demuslim 2-0. Demuslim already lost to haypro this tournament. DRG is the best player in the world. I don't even know why you guys would want to watch this. It's going to be ridiculously one sided and terrible. Go watch another stream"

is that better?


Maybe not better but definitely more honest.


No it's not honest, it's trashing haha. You're meaning of honesty is strange.

A true analysis looks at both sides of the argument, and the DRG side of this argument speaks for itself in spades.
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sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
March 24 2012 00:55 GMT
#3780
On March 24 2012 09:49 Falconblade wrote:
DRG vs. Demuslim. After losing to Haypro... This could be bad.


Hes obviously the huge underdog, however iv seen crazier things happen so don't write him off just yet.
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