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On March 22 2012 06:13 Asha` wrote:
lategame TvZ is pretty impossible. Need to kill Zergs before they get close to stable hive tech nowadays I guess.
Have you seen Polt's late game against zergs? The key is to never engage and constantly do three medivac drops or snipe bases that are far away from the BL/infestor army. Lategame does favor zerg if the terran goes bio but it is not impossible to win.
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MC hasn't lost in this tournament huh?
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On March 22 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. edit: to clarify my position, I still don't agree with the Snipe nerf, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. Funnily in LR threads every poster is a pro who can spot every mistake and tell what was a mistake or what wasn't. Really :/.
I get my analysis wrong aaaall the time, but I'm pretty confident that Thorzain's play in the first game in particular was bad. No scouting, completely hitting mis-timings and otherwise playing almost entirely passive?
I missed some of the 3rd game, so I won't comment too much on that. But from what I saw, Thorzain moved his whole army, mostly tanks, down to the 4th of Idra and seiged when it wasn't even mining because of a previous drop, leaving his natural completely exposed.
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lol. why no stim?!?!!?!? xDD
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On March 22 2012 06:31 trinxified wrote:
MC hasn't lost in this tournament huh?
He only played one bo3 against Idra (2-0) if I remember correctly. So yeah, hasn't lost yet, but this isn't a big sample.
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Once upon a time these two played the closest most exciting TvP series ever.
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On March 22 2012 06:31 trinxified wrote:
MC hasn't lost in this tournament huh?
He hasnt played any of the hard players yet. He's just 2-0 against IdrA and 1-0 against thorzain. He still has Symbol and Mvp left to play on Sunday
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TB and Apollo rly letting ThorZain have it ..
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That game was decided by chronoboost. If MC chrono'd his upgrades 1 less time or chrono didn't make such a big difference then during Thorzain's attack it is 2-1 vs 0-0 and he probably beats MC's army.
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TB talking out of his ass again. Yeah thorzain is surely slumping.
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On March 22 2012 06:34 JJH777 wrote:
That game was decided by chronoboost. If MC chrono'd his upgrades 1 less time or chrono didn't make such a big difference then during Thorzain's attack it is 2-1 vs 0-0 and he probably beats MC's army.
It looks that way, but even if Thorzain had beaten all the Zealots at the front of the army, MC had a shitton of Forcefields saved up, would have gone back home with a superior economy and just remade the army and attacked again.
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On March 22 2012 06:35 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:34 JJH777 wrote:
That game was decided by chronoboost. If MC chrono'd his upgrades 1 less time or chrono didn't make such a big difference then during Thorzain's attack it is 2-1 vs 0-0 and he probably beats MC's army. It looks that way, but even if Thorzain had beaten all the Zealots at the front of the army, MC had a shitton of Forcefields saved up, would have gone back home with a superior economy and just remade the army and attacked again.
His storms for the most part were really good too and storm doesnt care about upgrades
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On March 22 2012 06:36 bouhko wrote:
Blizzard should nerf MC
I think they have a bigger problem with that guy DRG. MC is the protoss hope against DRG now that Genius got beat
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On March 22 2012 06:35 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:34 JJH777 wrote:
That game was decided by chronoboost. If MC chrono'd his upgrades 1 less time or chrono didn't make such a big difference then during Thorzain's attack it is 2-1 vs 0-0 and he probably beats MC's army. It looks that way, but even if Thorzain had beaten all the Zealots at the front of the army, MC had a shitton of Forcefields saved up, would have gone back home with a superior economy and just remade the army and attacked again.
He beat all the zealots without the upgrade advantage. All MC had left was the stalkers and sentries. He definitely wins that battle if MC doesn't have 1-1.
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On March 22 2012 06:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:I think they have a bigger problem with that guy DRG. MC is the protoss hope against DRG now that Genius got beat
To be fair that series was pretty terrible to watch to judge PvZ, genius should have won that final if he played properly(His double stargate should have been an autowin if he decided not to pull back for w/e reason, and the last game he should just stop DRG from having gotten a mining third(Heck even move in the backdoor...)
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EPT
