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On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra.
No he lost cause of balance. Tell me how you are supposed to stop the ultras after wasting everything against BL's.
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Sheesh, what was Blizzard thinking.
I am not saying IdrA played bad, but we see now, what happens if the Terran isn't quite agressive in the early/mid game. The ultra remax... how can you react to it - you have mere seconds after the ultras hatch and attack.
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On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra.
Not trying to be a dick here. But what were the tons of mistakes he did? I mean he got a third up while denying Idra's third. He got upgrades decently fast, allthough his 3-3 started a couple seconds behind Idra's.
Might just be me, but I didn't see any glaring mistakes from Thorzain. Except maybe his positioning while attacking the 12' expo was a little bit off.
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On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. edit: to clarify my position, I still don't agree with the Snipe nerf, but your reasoning doesn't make sense.
Thorzain played pretty terrible that game, he did very little pressure against idra who got the comp he wanted without effort. The only problem i see is the fact that a well controlled Blord infestor corruptor is far to difficult to deal with as terran and protoss(Far to reliant on hitting a good vortex)
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On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. edit: to clarify my position, I still don't agree with the Snipe nerf, but your reasoning doesn't make sense.
Funnily in LR threads every poster is a pro who can spot every mistake and tell what was a mistake or what wasn't.
Really :/.
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Group C is gonna be WILD. We will truly see what Stephano is made out of (Though undoubtedly he is already code S caliber). Stephano vs MMA, Stephano vs Jjakji.... Thank Flash.
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On March 22 2012 06:16 Schelim wrote:hell yeah idra actually wins something 
Yeah he has won a best of three. Not sure if that is a great achievement. But since his recent results are just ... let´s say not that good, the expectations are probably not that high anymore. I don´t even think that he´ll will make it out of this group.
MC vs. Thorzain is probably going to be pretty onesided. :/
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On March 22 2012 06:17 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. No he lost cause of balance. Tell me how you are supposed to stop the ultras after wasting everything against BL's.
You answered your own question. Don't waste everything against the Brood Lords.
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MC going 17 Nexus.
Balls of steel.
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MC really likes nexus first on this map.
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On March 22 2012 06:18 gakkgakk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. Not trying to be a dick here. But what were the tons of mistakes he did? I mean he got a third up while denying Idra's third. He got upgrades decently fast, allthough his 3-3 started a couple seconds behind Idra's. Might just be me, but I didn't see any glaring mistakes from Thorzain. Except maybe his positioning while attacking the 12' expo was a little bit off.
Losing all your tanks for basicly nothing to getting stuck in broodlings isn't a good idea when you know there might be an ultra switch incoming. Losing all your marines and a bunch of ghosts because your tanks are chilling on some other part of the map isn't good play either.
And I'm a big fan of thorzain, his play that game just wasn't very good.
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On March 22 2012 06:23 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:18 gakkgakk wrote:On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. Not trying to be a dick here. But what were the tons of mistakes he did? I mean he got a third up while denying Idra's third. He got upgrades decently fast, allthough his 3-3 started a couple seconds behind Idra's. Might just be me, but I didn't see any glaring mistakes from Thorzain. Except maybe his positioning while attacking the 12' expo was a little bit off. Losing all your tanks for basicly nothing to getting stuck in broodlings isn't a good idea when you know there might be an ultra switch incoming. Losing all your marines and a bunch of ghosts because your tanks are chilling on some other part of the map isn't good play either. And I'm a big fan of thorzain, his play that game just wasn't very good.
And how was he supposed to keep his tanks alive lol?
-_-
It's not like he can magically press a button and teleport them in a safe place
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On March 22 2012 06:17 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/ Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA. Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra. No he lost cause of balance. Tell me how you are supposed to stop the ultras after wasting everything against BL's.
Well I wasn't watching the game but it sounds like IdrA had a gigantic bank for Ultras? Don't let him get that bank.....
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Drop 4 more gates. I love you MC <3
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it is time... for the 8gate. Love MC so much!
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Lol dApollo is so mad at thorzain for not getting stim. Can't blame him though. It just sounds hilarious though
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typical MC, smell blood, go for the kill.
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On March 22 2012 06:28 Stanlot wrote:
Wait, what happened
Nothing yet, Thorzian just forgot to research stim.
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EPT
