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On March 22 2012 06:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays. MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra. Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP. However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol. So Idra can't qualify. [Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.] More than we do man. The manner in this is recorded means we don't have an admin to calculate this stuff so I'm hoping we don't fuck up.
Don't worry about it. 5 people groups are hard to figure out especially when everyone has played different number of matches (symbol 3, thorzain mvp and idra 2, and mc 1) there are so many different things that can still happen >.>
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On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays. MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra. Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP. However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol. So Idra can't qualify. [Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]
Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.
nvm, forgot only top 2 advance xD
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United States97274 Posts
On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays. MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra. Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP. However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol. So Idra can't qualify. [Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.] Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.
No because only top 2 advance
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On March 22 2012 06:06 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays. MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra. Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP. However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol. So Idra can't qualify. [Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.] Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3. No because only top 2 advance
ahh yeah my bad thought it was top 3 for some reason.
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Man, these French commentators are hilarious!
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United States97274 Posts
11 brood lords 0 corruptors. I guess at least he has plenty of infestors
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On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays. MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra. Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP. However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol. So Idra can't qualify. [Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.] Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.
For thorzain to advance either symbol or MVP has to advance and the 2 other koreans go 2/2, for Idra its Symbol or MC advancing with the other 2 going 2/2. This all presumes they both win their remaining games
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France12758 Posts
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/
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oh no 6 more vikings at a time and ultra switch incoming. Thorzain is in trouble
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Good to see IdrA winning something this year
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Thorzain cant play TvZ like this, idra gets way to much room to play in :/
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France12758 Posts
Oh sorry I did not know that the english broadcast was delayed from the french one.
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United Kingdom38149 Posts
lategame TvZ is pretty impossible. Need to kill Zergs before they get close to stable hive tech nowadays I guess.
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what should terran do against this.. he can crush the broodlors and corrupters and than the instanst remax to ultras chrushes the viking heavy terran army..
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What's interesting is that after Idra obsed Stephano's games he stated that bio was officially a dead strategy.
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On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/
Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA.
Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra.
edit: to clarify my position, I still don't agree with the Snipe nerf, but your reasoning doesn't make sense.
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Time to watch some sweet action from MC!
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hell yeah idra actually wins something 
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EPT
