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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2012 21:05 GMT
#581
On March 22 2012 06:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol

Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays.

MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra.
Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP.

However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol.

So Idra can't qualify.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]


More than we do man. The manner in this is recorded means we don't have an admin to calculate this stuff so I'm hoping we don't fuck up.

Don't worry about it. 5 people groups are hard to figure out especially when everyone has played different number of matches (symbol 3, thorzain mvp and idra 2, and mc 1) there are so many different things that can still happen >.>
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 21:09:10
March 21 2012 21:05 GMT
#582
On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol

Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays.

MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra.
Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP.

However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol.

So Idra can't qualify.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]

Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.
nvm, forgot only top 2 advance xD
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2012 21:06 GMT
#583
On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol

Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays.

MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra.
Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP.

However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol.

So Idra can't qualify.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]

Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.

No because only top 2 advance
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#584
On March 22 2012 06:06 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:
On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol

Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays.

MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra.
Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP.

However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol.

So Idra can't qualify.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]

Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.

No because only top 2 advance

ahh yeah my bad thought it was top 3 for some reason.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
March 21 2012 21:08 GMT
#585
Man, these French commentators are hilarious!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2012 21:08 GMT
#586
11 brood lords 0 corruptors. I guess at least he has plenty of infestors
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 21 2012 21:09 GMT
#587
On March 22 2012 06:05 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 06:02 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
On March 22 2012 05:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think both Idra and Thorzain are eliminated already since they got 2-0d in both their losses and symbol only lost 2-1. I guess technically Mvp only has to win 1 map to eliminate both because there is no way they can finish above symbol

Idra could finish above MVP, if Idra wins every game he plays and MVP loses every game he plays.

MVP would be 2-2, 4-5 on maps, with a loss to Idra.
Idra would be 2-2, 4-5, with a win over MVP.

However, for this to happen MC would have to beat MVP 2-0, giving him a worst case scenario sore of 2-2, 4-4 on maps, with a win over Idra. So if Idra finishes ahead of MVP he necessarily finishes behind MC, and there's no way he can finish above Symbol.

So Idra can't qualify.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing.]

Actually, he could beat thorzain and MVP, and if MC lost all his remaining games he would advance, no? then symbol and MVP 3-1, Idra 2-2, Thorzain and MC 1-3.

For thorzain to advance either symbol or MVP has to advance and the 2 other koreans go 2/2, for Idra its Symbol or MC advancing with the other 2 going 2/2. This all presumes they both win their remaining games
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
March 21 2012 21:09 GMT
#588
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/
WriterMaru
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2012 21:11 GMT
#589
oh no 6 more vikings at a time and ultra switch incoming. Thorzain is in trouble
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#590
Good to see IdrA winning something this year
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
March 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#591
Whoot IdrA.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#592
Thorzain cant play TvZ like this, idra gets way to much room to play in :/
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
March 21 2012 21:12 GMT
#593
Oh sorry I did not know that the english broadcast was delayed from the french one.
WriterMaru
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 21 2012 21:13 GMT
#594
lategame TvZ is pretty impossible. Need to kill Zergs before they get close to stable hive tech nowadays I guess.
PradamadeR
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
March 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#595
what should terran do against this.. he can crush the broodlors and corrupters and than the instanst remax to ultras chrushes the viking heavy terran army..
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
March 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#596
What's interesting is that after Idra obsed Stephano's games he stated that bio was officially a dead strategy.
quen
Profile Joined March 2011
201 Posts
March 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#597
WTG Idra~
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 21:17:00
March 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#598
On March 22 2012 06:09 Poopi wrote:
Lol this was depressing to watch.
I really wonder why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to nerf ghosts, terrans were still losing more than winning in the late game and DongRaeGu was still almost invincible in ZvT :/


Bollocks. DRG was NOT invincible in ZvT - he nearly lost to Gumiho, it's his statistically worst matchup, and he has commented himself in an interview after MLG Providence that he is more confident in ZvP than ZvT. He also consistently loses against MMA.

Terrans ARE losing more than winning in the late game, but your logic here is completely flawed. ThorZain didn't lost that series because of balance, he lost because he made tons of mistakes and played worse than Idra.

edit: to clarify my position, I still don't agree with the Snipe nerf, but your reasoning doesn't make sense.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#599
Time to watch some sweet action from MC!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#600
hell yeah idra actually wins something
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