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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#1081
Wow that was the most questionable opening ever by snute... hahaha.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
April 02 2012 03:52 GMT
#1082
Even though it failed miserably, this was pretty good play from Snute. If the coinflip works, he's up 3-0 and has pretty much secured the series.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 03:57 GMT
#1083
On April 02 2012 12:52 Dali. wrote:
Even though it failed miserably, this was pretty good play from Snute. If the coinflip works, he's up 3-0 and has pretty much secured the series.


No it wasn't good play. He cancelled the hatchery, but after making the roaches he still had 400+ minerals. He then proceeded to make the hatchery immediately after. There is no way it was even remotely close to optimized. He could have at least let the hatch finish, and had the same amount of units while being able to either reinforce more easily with extra larva, or play more economically with the expansion. Alternatively he could have optimized the build better to get the roaches out faster, or potentially get a few more by doing everything sooner, and making use of the extra minerals of the cancelled hatch. He also didn't do a good job of preventing the scout on his already relatively poor build.

I'm not trying to bash on the guy, he obviously did well to get into this position, but I don't think it is fair to call that a good play.

You can definitely make an argument that going all in while up 2 games is a reasonable strategy to try to execute, but if you don't execute it even close to optimally, then it isn't a good play.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 02 2012 03:59 GMT
#1084
The observer missed the crucial part when the probe spotted the cancelled hatch and Killer built loads of cannons.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
HydraFucaZ
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 04:02:15
April 02 2012 04:01 GMT
#1085
I honestly think the finals should have been played tomorrow instead. I bet its super late in both Norway and Korea and both players are super tired, so theres a chance we might se lesser games than if both were well rested. Still awesome stuff though!
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
April 02 2012 04:03 GMT
#1086
On April 02 2012 13:01 HydraFucaZ wrote:
I honestly think the finals should have been played tomorrow instead. I bet its super late in both Norway and Korea and both players are super tired, so theres a chance we might se lesser games than if both were well rested. Still awesome stuff though!

It's currently 1 PM in Korea...
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 02 2012 04:04 GMT
#1087
Killer has been exhausted for hours, hes been up all night already. I also wish bitter would be as good of a caster when he is casting a foreigner zerg player as he is the rest of the time.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 02 2012 04:04 GMT
#1088
On April 02 2012 13:03 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 13:01 HydraFucaZ wrote:
I honestly think the finals should have been played tomorrow instead. I bet its super late in both Norway and Korea and both players are super tired, so theres a chance we might se lesser games than if both were well rested. Still awesome stuff though!

It's currently 1 PM in Korea...

But Killer has been up the entire night already....
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 02 2012 04:06 GMT
#1089
Wow I love the expansion placement by snute.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
April 02 2012 04:09 GMT
#1090
On April 02 2012 12:57 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 12:52 Dali. wrote:
Even though it failed miserably, this was pretty good play from Snute. If the coinflip works, he's up 3-0 and has pretty much secured the series.


No it wasn't good play. He cancelled the hatchery, but after making the roaches he still had 400+ minerals. He then proceeded to make the hatchery immediately after. There is no way it was even remotely close to optimized. He could have at least let the hatch finish, and had the same amount of units while being able to either reinforce more easily with extra larva, or play more economically with the expansion. Alternatively he could have optimized the build better to get the roaches out faster, or potentially get a few more by doing everything sooner, and making use of the extra minerals of the cancelled hatch. He also didn't do a good job of preventing the scout on his already relatively poor build.

I'm not trying to bash on the guy, he obviously did well to get into this position, but I don't think it is fair to call that a good play.

You can definitely make an argument that going all in while up 2 games is a reasonable strategy to try to execute, but if you don't execute it even close to optimally, then it isn't a good play.


I just mean in the context of the series.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 02 2012 04:11 GMT
#1091
God I have always loved snutes drop play.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 04:11 GMT
#1092
This is awesome play from Snute!! Early drops... we almost never see this, and it is working very well. :D
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 02 2012 04:13 GMT
#1093
Baneling drops are very, very hard to stop for Protoss without stalkers.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 02 2012 04:14 GMT
#1094
GEEGEE!! SNUTE HWAITING HEIA NORGE!
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 04:15 GMT
#1095
This would be the biggest surprise win of a tournament since Thorzain... and it is looking likely. Go Snute!
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
April 02 2012 04:15 GMT
#1096
On April 02 2012 13:04 goswser wrote:
Killer has been exhausted for hours, hes been up all night already. I also wish bitter would be as good of a caster when he is casting a foreigner zerg player as he is the rest of the time.


Oh c'mon... Everyone wants Snute to win this. He was voted in by the community for Pete's sake.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 04:17 GMT
#1097
Grubby casting??? FUCK YEAH!!! :D <3
HydraFucaZ
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
April 02 2012 04:19 GMT
#1098
On April 02 2012 13:15 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 13:04 goswser wrote:
Killer has been exhausted for hours, hes been up all night already. I also wish bitter would be as good of a caster when he is casting a foreigner zerg player as he is the rest of the time.


Oh c'mon... Everyone wants Snute to win this. He was voted in by the community for Pete's sake.


It's pretty late in Norway too, we have been up all night as well
http://www.gamersleague.no
svalestup
Profile Joined February 2012
5 Posts
April 02 2012 04:21 GMT
#1099
So what is happening? Liquipedia says 2-1 in Snute's favor, but his flag is USA, and the stream says that next up is Sheth versus TBD.
The devil is compromise.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
April 02 2012 04:23 GMT
#1100
On April 02 2012 13:21 svalestup wrote:
So what is happening? Liquipedia says 2-1 in Snute's favor, but his flag is USA, and the stream says that next up is Sheth versus TBD.

Snute is 3-1, the flag is part of april fools.
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