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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
March 08 2012 15:36 GMT
#1381
Feast to take it all !!! GOGOGOGO
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
March 08 2012 15:38 GMT
#1382
Feast really surprising so many people. Congratulations to the guy!
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 08 2012 15:39 GMT
#1383
On March 08 2012 23:01 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 21:26 ETisME wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:23 marcesr wrote:
I didnt watch today's games so maybe its a bit ignorant to say but for me this tournament is as boring as expected.

Koreans own, the only question is who is going to own the most. About every top foreigner I know at least something and can tell a few things about his personality etc., about the Koreans I dont know anything so why would I care about who becomes the new World Champion. Random Korean A, B or C?!
Sorry =/

I feel so sorry for people like you

MMA, MC, BOXER, DRG, MKP, POLT etc are way more interesting than your top foreigners (and most likely are better as well)


I was talking about this tournament specifically and I didnt mean to disrespect Korean players.

So I dont watch GSL too often nor do I read too much about the Korean scene and that is what I know.

Violet seems a cool guy judging from some interviews and IEM Sao Paolo but the interviews were very superficial so you dont get to know much about him.
MMA is a great player and a GSL champion, thats it.
MC seems funny and put on a good show at MLG.
No clue about JYP, Puma, Killer, Zenio and Supernova.

I also respect that you are defending your stars but you should keep in mind that for a large part of the audience it is not so easy to keep track with all the Koreans since at almost every major tournament a new Korean appears and owns everyone.

The only reason why we dont see Koreans only at major tournaments with maybe 2-3 top foreigners is because the events use invitationals and regional qualifiers and that most Korean players still dont have the financial support to attend a lot of events.


If you know more about the foreigners at this IEM (apart from IdrA / Grubby / White-Ra) than MMA / MC then I don't know how you watch StarCraft.

When I watch a game, I see the player, not where he comes from. It doesn't matter where they are from, if the play was amazing I will get excited. It just happens more often when Korean plays because they dedicate themselves more into the game and therefore by default, will be better at the game.

I know a ton about Leenock because I've seen him play a lot. Mainly because he's my favourite zerg and I play zerg as well so I try to copy the way he plays. But also because I follow Team FXO. I know more about the FXO's players playstyle / weak and strong matchups etc than I do 95% of the foreigners.

"MMA is a great player and a GSL champion, thats it.
MC seems funny and put on a good show at MLG."

If anything, these 2 players the ones we know the most about if you follow SC2. Name 5 foreigners that you know more about that MC / MMA >_> I don't care if you don't follow GSL, because they have been in so many foreign events so you should've seen them a lot.
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JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
March 08 2012 15:46 GMT
#1384
On March 09 2012 00:33 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:29 Champloo wrote:
On March 09 2012 00:18 Zzoram wrote:
On March 08 2012 23:01 marcesr wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:26 ETisME wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:23 marcesr wrote:
I didnt watch today's games so maybe its a bit ignorant to say but for me this tournament is as boring as expected.

Koreans own, the only question is who is going to own the most. About every top foreigner I know at least something and can tell a few things about his personality etc., about the Koreans I dont know anything so why would I care about who becomes the new World Champion. Random Korean A, B or C?!
Sorry =/

I feel so sorry for people like you

MMA, MC, BOXER, DRG, MKP, POLT etc are way more interesting than your top foreigners (and most likely are better as well)


I was talking about this tournament specifically and I didnt mean to disrespect Korean players.

So I dont watch GSL too often nor do I read too much about the Korean scene and that is what I know.

Violet seems a cool guy judging from some interviews and IEM Sao Paolo but the interviews were very superficial so you dont get to know much about him.
MMA is a great player and a GSL champion, thats it.
MC seems funny and put on a good show at MLG.
No clue about JYP, Puma, Killer, Zenio and Supernova.

I also respect that you are defending your stars but you should keep in mind that for a large part of the audience it is not so easy to keep track with all the Koreans since at almost every major tournament a new Korean appears and owns everyone.

The only reason why we dont see Koreans only at major tournaments with maybe 2-3 top foreigners is because the events use invitationals and regional qualifiers and that most Korean players still dont have the financial support to attend a lot of events.


You act like we actually know anything about foreigners. We don't know much more about them than we do the Koreans. Stephano doesn't speak English, we just know he's a bit immature and really good at the game. People love him because he's white / EU and good at SC2, not because of his engaging personality.

Idra is the most "known" player, but even so all we really know is the story of his disappointing career as "the great white hope" plus that he rages and tilts when he loses and is willing to call most players bad in interviews and complains about balance a lot.



Nobody "knows" anyone that well in the SC2 scene, or any professional sports scene really, since you can never know anyone beyond a superficial level without spending time with them. As a fan of the game, I know MMA as well as I need to know him, he's got sick aggressive multitasking style especially in TvZ and his games are more exciting to watch than most other players.


I can only speak for the German community, but we get to know the pros quite good.

There are a lot of german sites with sc2 coverage (fragster, readmore)
EPS (prestigous league where all the german pros participate)
EPS Cast (Pros analyzing their replays each week after the EPS)
Scenecast (Something like the German state of the game with Hasu, Socke, Darkforce, Delphi etc)


plus /qry hasuobs which was just amazing :D

Wow I almost forgot that exists, I watched that ages ago. Must rewatch! I hope the VOD is still available...
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 08 2012 15:52 GMT
#1385
Hasu and Take commentating the EPS Cup #3 final between Cloud and DF in German right now btw!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
March 08 2012 15:56 GMT
#1386
stream here

http://beta.esl.tv/channel/esltv-studio2/

rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
March 08 2012 16:03 GMT
#1387
every korean advances!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ MKP HWAITING ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
March 08 2012 16:15 GMT
#1388
On March 08 2012 23:01 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 21:26 ETisME wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:23 marcesr wrote:
I didnt watch today's games so maybe its a bit ignorant to say but for me this tournament is as boring as expected.

Koreans own, the only question is who is going to own the most. About every top foreigner I know at least something and can tell a few things about his personality etc., about the Koreans I dont know anything so why would I care about who becomes the new World Champion. Random Korean A, B or C?!
Sorry =/

I feel so sorry for people like you

MMA, MC, BOXER, DRG, MKP, POLT etc are way more interesting than your top foreigners (and most likely are better as well)


I was talking about this tournament specifically and I didnt mean to disrespect Korean players.

So I dont watch GSL too often nor do I read too much about the Korean scene and that is what I know.

Violet seems a cool guy judging from some interviews and IEM Sao Paolo but the interviews were very superficial so you dont get to know much about him.
MMA is a great player and a GSL champion, thats it.
MC seems funny and put on a good show at MLG.
No clue about JYP, Puma, Killer, Zenio and Supernova.

I also respect that you are defending your stars but you should keep in mind that for a large part of the audience it is not so easy to keep track with all the Koreans since at almost every major tournament a new Korean appears and owns everyone.

The only reason why we dont see Koreans only at major tournaments with maybe 2-3 top foreigners is because the events use invitationals and regional qualifiers and that most Korean players still dont have the financial support to attend a lot of events.


they're much more fun than what u know

-Terran-
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 08 2012 16:24 GMT
#1389
Good job to feast, the lone foreigner in the ro8.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
March 08 2012 16:34 GMT
#1390
Embarrassing day to be a foreigner . Good try guys, practice harder for next time !
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
March 08 2012 16:35 GMT
#1391
On March 09 2012 00:18 Zzoram wrote:

You act like we actually know anything about foreigners. We don't know much more about them than we do the Koreans. Stephano doesn't speak English, we just know he's a bit immature and really good at the game. People love him because he's white / EU and good at SC2, not because of his engaging personality.


What? He speaks english, and he has tunisian origins, so he's not even "white" lol.
SarkON
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 16:39:05
March 08 2012 16:38 GMT
#1392
I remember this debate after like 6 months SC2 was released about foreigners vs koreans.
Well, now we clearly see that at every single tournament that Koreans play together with foreigners, there's a huge gap between the 2.
And this gap is going to keep growing, that's just a fact.
I think we might end up with similar differences to those of Brood War. Only time will tell, maybe the gap is going to be smaller, but still quite noticable.
Who Dares Wins...
-xpeh-
Profile Joined July 2009
Ukraine86 Posts
March 08 2012 16:38 GMT
#1393
Can i download IEM stream from somewhere?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 08 2012 16:48 GMT
#1394
Hmmm not how my predictions went for the most part but I can see these results happening so not too surprised. Zenio played well against sC and Supernova is kind of up and down. Sucks that he gets MMA next round. JYP has always been good in PvP so I guess he was able to match up well with Elfi even though Elfi took down MC. THat's where I was thinking there was a best chance of a foreigner > korean upset. Oh well. Looking good for an MMA vs MC finals. I am a little surprised that Killer 3-0 Hasuobs though. Killer's PvP has always been kind of mediocre
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
March 08 2012 16:49 GMT
#1395
On March 09 2012 01:38 SarkON wrote:
I remember this debate after like 6 months SC2 was released about foreigners vs koreans.
Well, now we clearly see that at every single tournament that Koreans play together with foreigners, there's a huge gap between the 2.
And this gap is going to keep growing, that's just a fact.
I think we might end up with similar differences to those of Brood War. Only time will tell, maybe the gap is going to be smaller, but still quite noticable.

Dunno man, Feast beat Supernova 2-0. It's the same it''s always been, only the best foreigners can take the Koreans down. And most of those have Korean training.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1396
On March 09 2012 01:38 -xpeh- wrote:
Can i download IEM stream from somewhere?


there should be a rerun currently or in 20minutes, dont have the stream open atm
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
March 08 2012 17:28 GMT
#1397
On March 09 2012 01:15 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 23:01 marcesr wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:26 ETisME wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:23 marcesr wrote:
I didnt watch today's games so maybe its a bit ignorant to say but for me this tournament is as boring as expected.

Koreans own, the only question is who is going to own the most. About every top foreigner I know at least something and can tell a few things about his personality etc., about the Koreans I dont know anything so why would I care about who becomes the new World Champion. Random Korean A, B or C?!
Sorry =/

I feel so sorry for people like you

MMA, MC, BOXER, DRG, MKP, POLT etc are way more interesting than your top foreigners (and most likely are better as well)


I was talking about this tournament specifically and I didnt mean to disrespect Korean players.

So I dont watch GSL too often nor do I read too much about the Korean scene and that is what I know.

Violet seems a cool guy judging from some interviews and IEM Sao Paolo but the interviews were very superficial so you dont get to know much about him.
MMA is a great player and a GSL champion, thats it.
MC seems funny and put on a good show at MLG.
No clue about JYP, Puma, Killer, Zenio and Supernova.

I also respect that you are defending your stars but you should keep in mind that for a large part of the audience it is not so easy to keep track with all the Koreans since at almost every major tournament a new Korean appears and owns everyone.

The only reason why we dont see Koreans only at major tournaments with maybe 2-3 top foreigners is because the events use invitationals and regional qualifiers and that most Korean players still dont have the financial support to attend a lot of events.


they're much more fun than what u know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbFnNRHbeS8

Damn, violet acting as a translator

Pretty confident with his english to do that :D
Love it when the koreans bust out the english.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
-xpeh-
Profile Joined July 2009
Ukraine86 Posts
March 08 2012 17:31 GMT
#1398
On March 09 2012 02:11 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 01:38 -xpeh- wrote:
Can i download IEM stream from somewhere?


there should be a rerun currently or in 20minutes, dont have the stream open atm

I mean as record/download, so i could watch them at any time and skip pauses.

I don't get the idea of rerun. Why don't just put it to twitch archive?
Raistlin
Profile Joined May 2003
Sweden104 Posts
March 08 2012 17:32 GMT
#1399


We caught the FFA winner on camera!
Head administrator, GosuGamers.net
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
March 08 2012 17:34 GMT
#1400
Total Korean dominance today :O
Happy to see Sangho and Zenio doing so well :D
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