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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#601
Yeah I really don't see Puma losing to JYP. His strongest MU vs JYP's weakest.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#602
On March 08 2012 19:25 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:16 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:14 Jyvblamo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 Ksquared wrote:
I have a feeling that Puma vs JYP will be painful to watch

One of the worst Korean PvT against one of the best Korean TvP. Eeeyup.

Puma definitely has the best TvP in the foreigner scene, but is it comparable to MKP Jjiakji or Polt's?


MKP probably has the best TvP Right now though Puma was good because his 1-1-1 was excellent and he uses ghosts very good late game.

Puma was good before the 1-1-1. Remember NASL season 1 finals?


Yeah I was there, I remember it going all 7 games.

MC's PvT at the time was really good too for the record, not that I'm disagreeing with your sentiment.


I was more impressed by Sen then MC that tournament, was it not the beginning of his slump ?
It was also the time that 1-1-1 had no awnser from protoss.

1-1-1 wasn't used once in the NASL finals. that was IEM Cologne, which is where the MC slump started
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#603
On March 08 2012 19:25 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:16 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:14 Jyvblamo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 Ksquared wrote:
I have a feeling that Puma vs JYP will be painful to watch

One of the worst Korean PvT against one of the best Korean TvP. Eeeyup.

Puma definitely has the best TvP in the foreigner scene, but is it comparable to MKP Jjiakji or Polt's?


MKP probably has the best TvP Right now though Puma was good because his 1-1-1 was excellent and he uses ghosts very good late game.

Puma was good before the 1-1-1. Remember NASL season 1 finals?


Yeah I was there, I remember it going all 7 games.

MC's PvT at the time was really good too for the record, not that I'm disagreeing with your sentiment.


I was more impressed by Sen then MC that tournament, was it not the beginning of his slump ?
It was also the time that 1-1-1 had no awnser from protoss.


What?The NASL finals was the highest level of starcraft up to that point. MC played incredible. And so did Puma.

And it was before the 1-1-1 era.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
March 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#604
On March 08 2012 19:31 Daray wrote:
JYP's voice so deep man :O


Reminds me of Fruitdealers lol.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
March 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#605
On March 08 2012 19:32 sleepyguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:29 Welmu wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
haha - well this just shows who got the better sense of execution/timing^^ though really nice showing by elfi, especially considering he´s still pretty young.

he is old >.< (-90)


Born in 1990. He's 21 atm, seems young to me, but I guess I'm becoming an old fart.


Everyone under 25 is young to me but i guess for majority it's like under 20?
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
March 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#606
On March 08 2012 19:32 sleepyguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:29 Welmu wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
haha - well this just shows who got the better sense of execution/timing^^ though really nice showing by elfi, especially considering he´s still pretty young.

he is old >.< (-90)


Born in 1990. He's 21 atm, seems young to me, but I guess I'm becoming an old fart.

yeah you are i'm 21 myself and i feel pretty old. and it's not really a young age for a progamer.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 08 2012 10:34 GMT
#607
On March 08 2012 19:27 Dodgin wrote:
Well I don't think anyone honestly thought Elfi would beat JYP.

gg

Well, Elfi has a really good pvp (group yesterday). While JYP lost a lot in pvp lately(Hero, Feast), so that wouldn't have surprised me if Elfi had won this.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 08 2012 10:34 GMT
#608
On March 08 2012 19:29 Welmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
haha - well this just shows who got the better sense of execution/timing^^ though really nice showing by elfi, especially considering he´s still pretty young.

he is old >.< (-90)


YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! D`:
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
March 08 2012 10:34 GMT
#609
On March 08 2012 19:29 JayJay_90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:27 Dodgin wrote:
Well I don't think anyone honestly thought Elfi would beat JYP.

gg

All jokes aside, I thought Elfi had at least a 50% chance. And the series we just saw proved me right.


Lol the series we just saw definitely did not prove you right.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#610
On March 08 2012 19:31 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:29 KiNGxXx wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 setzer wrote:
There goes the so-called PvP god. Should have been a 3-0 if not for JYP's complete lack of micro at the end of game 1.

Should have been a 2-0 lead if not for Elfi's complete lack of micro at the middle of game 2.


JYP has much more multitasking, much better micro, and is the overall better player by a mile. Glad to see the better player won despite it's PvP.

Why you quote me? Your statement has nothing to do with mine.
Elfi had game 2 because of better strategy. But he didn't micro good and couldn't end the game here.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
hallx
Profile Joined November 2010
Pakistan163 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#611
On March 08 2012 19:29 nokz88 wrote:
Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi....
...oh btw JYP won the series, but...
Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi


Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi
... he went so far..
Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi
... he wasn't supposed to...
Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi Elfi
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#612
On March 08 2012 19:34 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:29 JayJay_90 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 Dodgin wrote:
Well I don't think anyone honestly thought Elfi would beat JYP.

gg

All jokes aside, I thought Elfi had at least a 50% chance. And the series we just saw proved me right.


Lol the series we just saw definitely did not prove you right.

Of course it did. It was very close except the last game and with a little bit more concentration Elfi would've won 3:0.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#613
There it is, the berwewerwerwerWERNWERN has been suspiciously not bombarding us tonight. Was starting to wonder if I was indeed watching IEM.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#614
can anyone tell me when is the FFA game?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8687 Posts
March 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#615
On March 08 2012 19:33 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:32 sleepyguy wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:29 Welmu wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
haha - well this just shows who got the better sense of execution/timing^^ though really nice showing by elfi, especially considering he´s still pretty young.

he is old >.< (-90)


Born in 1990. He's 21 atm, seems young to me, but I guess I'm becoming an old fart.


Everyone under 25 is young to me but i guess for majority it's like under 20?


haha this pretty much - though I really thought he is like 18 - 19?

he really is OLD
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#616
On March 08 2012 19:32 Logros wrote:
Yeah I really don't see Puma losing to JYP. His strongest MU vs JYP's weakest.


If Puma manages to lose to JYP in a bo5 my world will be turned upside down, there is just no way that will happen.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#617
On March 08 2012 19:32 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:25 Lysanias wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:16 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:14 Jyvblamo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 Ksquared wrote:
I have a feeling that Puma vs JYP will be painful to watch

One of the worst Korean PvT against one of the best Korean TvP. Eeeyup.

Puma definitely has the best TvP in the foreigner scene, but is it comparable to MKP Jjiakji or Polt's?


MKP probably has the best TvP Right now though Puma was good because his 1-1-1 was excellent and he uses ghosts very good late game.

Puma was good before the 1-1-1. Remember NASL season 1 finals?


Yeah I was there, I remember it going all 7 games.

MC's PvT at the time was really good too for the record, not that I'm disagreeing with your sentiment.


I was more impressed by Sen then MC that tournament, was it not the beginning of his slump ?
It was also the time that 1-1-1 had no awnser from protoss.

Wasn't that tournament the one where Darkforce made the huge run? That was back when Sen was still stomping people. Playing in that Taiwanese league has really slumped his play. Sen hasn't really done anything major since blizzon I don't think. His GSL games were so lackluster.


Indeed back when Sen was in Fnatic, not sure if he's gotten worse or not but we just see alot less about him.
And ye Darkforce made a good impression aswell beating Alive i believe, and barely losing to Sen.


I don't know if it's just a mental thing when watching him, but I feel like even his quality of play has gone down during his streaming. He used to be rather awesome on ladder. Last year I could easily say he's top3 zerg outside of Korea. Now I can't even put him on the top 10 list.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#618
On March 08 2012 19:32 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:25 Lysanias wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:16 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:14 Jyvblamo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 Ksquared wrote:
I have a feeling that Puma vs JYP will be painful to watch

One of the worst Korean PvT against one of the best Korean TvP. Eeeyup.

Puma definitely has the best TvP in the foreigner scene, but is it comparable to MKP Jjiakji or Polt's?


MKP probably has the best TvP Right now though Puma was good because his 1-1-1 was excellent and he uses ghosts very good late game.

Puma was good before the 1-1-1. Remember NASL season 1 finals?


Yeah I was there, I remember it going all 7 games.

MC's PvT at the time was really good too for the record, not that I'm disagreeing with your sentiment.


I was more impressed by Sen then MC that tournament, was it not the beginning of his slump ?
It was also the time that 1-1-1 had no awnser from protoss.

1-1-1 wasn't used once in the NASL finals. that was IEM Cologne, which is where the MC slump started


Fair enough mixing things up then, the memory's i have with NASL s1 are not all positive.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
March 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#619
noooo another EG team kill coming up
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#620
On March 08 2012 19:33 JayJay_90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:32 sleepyguy wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:29 Welmu wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
haha - well this just shows who got the better sense of execution/timing^^ though really nice showing by elfi, especially considering he´s still pretty young.

he is old >.< (-90)


Born in 1990. He's 21 atm, seems young to me, but I guess I'm becoming an old fart.

yeah you are i'm 21 myself and i feel pretty old. and it's not really a young age for a progamer.

damn, I'm turning 22 soon. fuck, i'm old
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