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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 26 2012 03:35 GMT
#4581
On February 26 2012 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:22 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:21 jmbthirteen wrote:
anyone else seeing the parallels to MLG Orlando here? Huk PvP'ing his way early and then facing MKP to start the last day.

MKP gonna 2-0 HuK this time though :D

idk, TvP is pretty fucking hard right now and i think Huk said his PvT is his best match up.

Marineking is still doing very well in TvP. He went 3-2 vs Genius in Code S and just beat Parting and Naniwa. He 3-0d puzzle in FXO invitational and he's 35-4 in international TvP since MLG orlando. His 4 losses were to Oz x2, San, and Grubby, but he didnt drop a single bo3 or more. He still beat Oz 2-1 twice, MC 2-0, Puzzle 3-0, and Parting 2-0. I think Marineking has a really good shot vs huk
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 26 2012 03:35 GMT
#4582
On February 26 2012 12:33 Glam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:26 Zheega wrote:
Some foreigners at last played good against koreans - demuslim, Naniwa, Ret...
But a VERY VERY sad day for IM


I'm going to get tired of foreigners patting themselves on the back and saying "Hey guys at least we took some games and like 3 matches!" Its like being super thrilled with winning the sportsmanship trophy. Foreigners need to step up their game. Maybe they think this is awesome since we were terrible compared to the Koreans in BW, but come on.

omfg don't even bring up BW, I got so tired of seeing high level foreigners getting roflstomped by like B Koreans...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
scriptor
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia68 Posts
February 26 2012 03:35 GMT
#4583
naniwa played briliant, defeating best of the best, more respect for him. at the end losing to the current gsl finalist is nothing to be ashamed for. definitely best foreign player
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
February 26 2012 03:36 GMT
#4584
On February 26 2012 12:32 Hubris wrote:
DRG destroys naniwa. Naniwa just isn't top tier. He always struggles with the current GSL champs.


Guess what other players else struggle with current GSL champs.

Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 03:37:31
February 26 2012 03:36 GMT
#4585
On February 26 2012 12:35 scriptor wrote:
naniwa played briliant, defeating best of the best, more respect for him. at the end losing to the current gsl finalist is nothing to be ashamed for. definitely best foreign player

whoah there cowboy...By that logic, Parting must be the best player in the world! after all, he beat DRG!
There currently is no best foreign player.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
mireath
Profile Joined May 2011
30 Posts
February 26 2012 03:37 GMT
#4586
Sigh, VODs are still only available in 1080p? Missed first half of today, but my crappy comp can't handle 1080p stream + gaming at the same time (1st world problem)
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 26 2012 03:37 GMT
#4587
On February 26 2012 12:33 Glam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:26 Zheega wrote:
Some foreigners at last played good against koreans - demuslim, Naniwa, Ret...
But a VERY VERY sad day for IM


I'm going to get tired of foreigners patting themselves on the back and saying "Hey guys at least we took some games and like 3 matches!" Its like being super thrilled with winning the sportsmanship trophy. Foreigners need to step up their game. Maybe they think this is awesome since we were terrible compared to the Koreans in BW, but come on.


Why does it even matter? I like koreans. Is there something wrong with rooting for DRG, MC, or MKP even when there are foreigners playing? They are talented, have great personalities, connect with their fans.. why choose to root for someone else just because they are 'outsiders'? I actually wouldn't care if foreigners were never able to compete, and I wouldn't care if foreigners completely dominated, so long as the scene keeps growing.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
February 26 2012 03:37 GMT
#4588
On February 26 2012 12:33 Glam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:26 Zheega wrote:
Some foreigners at last played good against koreans - demuslim, Naniwa, Ret...
But a VERY VERY sad day for IM


I'm going to get tired of foreigners patting themselves on the back and saying "Hey guys at least we took some games and like 3 matches!" Its like being super thrilled with winning the sportsmanship trophy. Foreigners need to step up their game. Maybe they think this is awesome since we were terrible compared to the Koreans in BW, but come on.

Should probably start by no longer referring to ourselves as "foreigners".
Betrayed by EG.BuK
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
February 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#4589
I don´t know why people are underrating MKP. He has always had awesome TvZ and TvP, hell one could even argue that MKP invented a lot of the tactics still used in TvZ and when we were in the P is OP phase back when MC was winning a lot people looked up to him and Polt as the guides on the MUs.

His downfall has always been nerves and the vT(moar like v MVP am i rite?) MU.

Point being is that MKP has not suddenly improved, he has always been that damn good. Now if only he could get over his nerve issues he could get back on top now that Code S is not 80 T 1 Z and 0 P

And yeah I am a MKP fanboy
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
February 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#4590
I'm sorry I cannot stand HuK.

He lucks his way through tournaments on lucky draws in which he gets PvP after PvP (his best match-up and a coinflip at that)

And people have the gall to say he's on par with Koreans?

He did the exact same thing when he won MLG and Homestory Cup.

PvP and lucky draws.
dofz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway98 Posts
February 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#4591
On February 26 2012 12:28 Liph wrote:
I don't get why any of the Naniwa supporters think they have any weight in any of their arguments here. He's never really accomplished anything major that people actually respect. It's bordering on obscenely comical behavior. Nevertheless, the final 6 we have is a truly great group of respectable people who I can all cheer for and share in their mlg championship.

Karma.


I was going to call you out, but it already seems like a lot of people did.

Also I don't think why you have any weight in any of your post, it's bordering on the obscenely comical behaviour, nevertheless the posts above me is a truely great group of people whom I can respect and enjoy reading their forum posts.

"I'm good at everything" Brett Hull
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
February 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#4592
On February 26 2012 12:38 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
I'm sorry I cannot stand HuK.

He lucks his way through tournaments on lucky draws in which he gets PvP after PvP (his best match-up and a coinflip at that)

And people have the gall to say he's on par with Koreans?

He did the exact same thing when he won MLG and Homestory Cup.

PvP and lucky draws.


PvP is his worst match up
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
February 26 2012 03:39 GMT
#4593
On February 26 2012 12:33 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:30 bearhug wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:26 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:25 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:22 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:21 jmbthirteen wrote:
anyone else seeing the parallels to MLG Orlando here? Huk PvP'ing his way early and then facing MKP to start the last day.

MKP gonna 2-0 HuK this time though :D

idk, TvP is pretty fucking hard right now and i think Huk said his PvT is his best match up.

MKP has a godly and probably the best TvP and just 2-0'd PARTING, probably the best PvTer right now. I have faith.


Yeah it's kinda weird to see MKP suddenly becomes so godly in TvP..


Suddenly? You must be new to SC2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&league=standard&vs=P


I don't know..I just got a feeling he dramatically improved TvP this GSL..

MarineKing is (and will very likely) allways be known for his sick TvZ. That his TvP is also really strong just gets more to the background.

For example if I would have to name TvP gods I instinctively would name people likt Polt, PuMa and Taeja first even though that could very well be wrong. Wrong as in that there are people with a better record btw, not as in that they could be shit at the matchup; don't think I would make that mistake.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 26 2012 03:40 GMT
#4594
On February 26 2012 12:39 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:33 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:30 bearhug wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:26 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:25 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:22 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:21 jmbthirteen wrote:
anyone else seeing the parallels to MLG Orlando here? Huk PvP'ing his way early and then facing MKP to start the last day.

MKP gonna 2-0 HuK this time though :D

idk, TvP is pretty fucking hard right now and i think Huk said his PvT is his best match up.

MKP has a godly and probably the best TvP and just 2-0'd PARTING, probably the best PvTer right now. I have faith.


Yeah it's kinda weird to see MKP suddenly becomes so godly in TvP..


Suddenly? You must be new to SC2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&league=standard&vs=P


I don't know..I just got a feeling he dramatically improved TvP this GSL..

MarineKing is (and will very likely) allways be known for his sick TvZ. That his TvP is also really strong just gets more to the background.

For example if I would have to name TvP gods I instinctively would name people likt Polt, PuMa and Taeja first even though that could very well be wrong. Wrong as in that there are people with a better record btw, not as in that they could be shit at the matchup; don't think I would make that mistake.


No jjakji?
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
February 26 2012 03:41 GMT
#4595
Gotta say pretty lackluster play today in general . Some okay games but most of them pretty "meh" at best
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
February 26 2012 03:41 GMT
#4596
I'm so upset. Why does huk and mkp have to play already They need to play in the finals FFS! This is gaaay D:. They haven't lost a single set yet they get bumped down lower then people who had to go through losers bracket T.T ANGRIZZZZZ I want Huk MKP final!! my 2 favorite ;(. MKP you gotta win though since this tourny is toss/zerg dominated if anyone didn't notice how underrepresented terrans are.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 26 2012 03:42 GMT
#4597
On February 26 2012 12:38 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
I'm sorry I cannot stand HuK.

He lucks his way through tournaments on lucky draws in which he gets PvP after PvP (his best match-up and a coinflip at that)

And people have the gall to say he's on par with Koreans?

He did the exact same thing when he won MLG and Homestory Cup.

PvP and lucky draws.

Good points. I'd like to say that he used to hang in there with the Koreans when he was consistently in Code S, even though it was kind of hard to fall out yadda yadda, but since he flew around the world several times in a couple of months it feels like he's fallen off a bit, even falling out of GSL entirely. I absolutely agree with him having a relatively easy path this far, and he will likely lose to MKP, who seems to be on fire.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 26 2012 03:42 GMT
#4598
On February 26 2012 12:38 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
I'm sorry I cannot stand HuK.

He lucks his way through tournaments on lucky draws in which he gets PvP after PvP (his best match-up and a coinflip at that)

And people have the gall to say he's on par with Koreans?

He did the exact same thing when he won MLG and Homestory Cup.

PvP and lucky draws.

The best players at Homestory Cup were all Protoss...
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
February 26 2012 03:42 GMT
#4599
On February 26 2012 12:26 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:24 jianming wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:22 vndods wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:21 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On February 26 2012 12:17 windsupernova wrote:
I wanted OZ to advance

MKP when at top of his game can beat DRG and Huk, so he can still win this. I´ll be cheering for him tomorrow



MKP can totally rape Huk but can never see him beating DRG in a best of 7...

He did beat DRG in a BO7 in the first GSL AOL. It's very possible with the way MKP is playing recently.


Isn't the final BO3?

which final are you talking about?


Sorry, I was really unclear there. I was talking about the MLG final.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
February 26 2012 03:43 GMT
#4600
On February 26 2012 12:30 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 12:11 ElectricWizard wrote:
lmao, what a weird bunch of people you guys are. naniwa gets cheesed again and again by three different zergs because they fear his mid/late game, and you still call HIM the lame one. what the actual fuck


The common factor here is that Naniwa opens very greedy, so an intelligent response to that is to cheese him and collect your free win.

The best players identify when to do this.


Yeah, except for the fact that its a 6 pool so they dont actually know through scouting information, they cheese and hope for a build order win. Hope you understand now..
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