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It should not needed to have been said, but don't post or request for restreams.

Also, don't come in here exclusively to whine about PPV.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#4601
On February 25 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:50 HolyArrow wrote:

When I travel and get jetlagged, it's not that I don't want to sleep - I lie in bed all night trying to, but sometimes, sleep just doesn't come. You're basically saying "There's no excuse for something that's impossible to control". Think about how silly that sounds.


There are things you can do to decrease it.


But there's nothing you can do to prevent it.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
February 25 2012 06:11 GMT
#4602
You can travel on your own private 747 with a bedroom.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 25 2012 06:11 GMT
#4603
Agreed SCST,

We got some great games today, but it did leave me wanting more in terms of the actual production.

On another note: I guess Ret taking Demuslim under his wing paid off! ;o

"You can be my wing man anytime."

"No, no. YOU can be my wing man."
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#4604
On February 25 2012 15:11 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote:
You can travel on your own private 747 with a bedroom.


Brilliant! :D
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 25 2012 06:15 GMT
#4605
So Huk, Ret, Oz, Leenock, Parting, MC, Violet and MKP have all secured top 16 which means they will be in the groups at MLG Columbus. Looking at the lower bracket I predict these will be the other 8:

Sheth, Nestea, Socke, DeMuslim, Thorzain, theStC, DRG, and MVP.

That would be 9 Koreans and 7 foreigners. Ganzi, Losira and San are the 3 Koreans I see not making it to the top 16.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 25 2012 06:15 GMT
#4606
On February 25 2012 15:09 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:50 HolyArrow wrote:

When I travel and get jetlagged, it's not that I don't want to sleep - I lie in bed all night trying to, but sometimes, sleep just doesn't come. You're basically saying "There's no excuse for something that's impossible to control". Think about how silly that sounds.


There are things you can do to decrease it.


But there's nothing you can do to prevent it.


You can prevent though. I just said that. ._.

Some of the methods work wonders for people such as myself. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone else though.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 25 2012 06:18 GMT
#4607
On February 25 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:50 HolyArrow wrote:

When I travel and get jetlagged, it's not that I don't want to sleep - I lie in bed all night trying to, but sometimes, sleep just doesn't come. You're basically saying "There's no excuse for something that's impossible to control". Think about how silly that sounds.


There are things you can do to decrease it.


But there's nothing you can do to prevent it.


You can prevent though. I just said that. ._.

Some of the methods work wonders for people such as myself. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone else though.


You didn't say you can prevent it... you said you can decrease it. Those words don't mean the same thing as far as I know >_> I have my personal ways of coping with it as well (I go on vacation every year so I'm pretty used to traveling and have my own system worked out), but it merely makes jetlag not as bad, rather than eliminating it altogether. That's what I mean.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:58:03
February 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#4608
On February 25 2012 15:08 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:00 SCST wrote:
Some really good games today at MLG. My review of the event . . .

Player Linup: 10/10

Quality of Games Played: 9/10

Overall production value: 6/10


Will I buy this kind of pass again? Probably not. I enjoyed it, but it was definitely not a high-production event, and no where close to the quality of any of the previous MLG's bar the very first (which flopped). Not having the crowd or an audience, and not having any space for even press etc . . . this was a 'homestory cup' with good players but without the comfortable atmosphere.

So overall, great Starcraft play from great players, enjoyed the games and the casters, but not worth being PPV in the future.

The production value has been great, what are you talking about?

Crowd and Press =/= Production.

As far as "no comfortable atmosphere" it looks pretty comfortable to me...

I would definitely buy this again.



Understandable to have differing opinions on this. Production value to me includes the intensity, excitement and pressure of having a large live audience, lots of interviews, cameras, fan-reaction/interaction etc. The "it" factor as another poster mentioned.

I gave MLG 6/10 for having above average production with high quality streams. However it didn't go far above the minimum standards in my book (i.e. any tournament can set up cameras in a home office, pack players into a waiting room and show good games).

All respect for MLG and those who would buy again, I'm just sharing my thoughts on what I value and that I don't think this type of production (even as it is a wonderful player linup) is worthy of PPV. I don't regret my decision to buy, but it helped me to understand that this is not the type of event I will be paying for in the future!
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Traven
Profile Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
February 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#4609
If you think the production value is lacking you clearly aren't looking at what I am looking at. Best produced event by far beside minor bug problems on the streaming page( which can be expected). When you look at a player pool and have a hard time predicting a winner for over half the matches, you know it's going to be a good tournament. I would like everyone here to go look at Assembly's brackets and see if you have a hard time picking a winner for each game.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 25 2012 06:20 GMT
#4610
Right, here's my thoughts on the MLG stuff so far:

Overall it's been pretty good. Login problems happened a little bit but after logging in six times over the five streams it was fine. I do hope people who didn't pay were actually being paywalled and not able to watch no problem as people were saying in the thread.

VODs weren't up "20 minutes after a game ended" but being up at the end of the day was fine, still pretty sharp.

We won't have any downtime, well, sorry but there was downtime. Yes there may have been one or two streams with casters chatting on but fairly often there were times with no matches happening and around two streams simply chucking up a "coming up next" plate.

Dr Pepper All Access Stream. Hmm, more like the access almost nothing stream. Yes there were SOME interviews but it consisted mainly of just showing people on couches in a room watches the main stream. If, as they stated, they were trying to recreate the HSC type feel on this stream they failed I'm afraid.

Here's hoping to a better day 2!

(Games and everything were still fantastic though, no lag on 1080p etc etc, I'm not really complaining but just pointing out areas where MLG didn't deliver on their promises)
@followMVT
MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
February 25 2012 06:25 GMT
#4611
Hey guys,

Just wanted to comment real quick on the login issues some people saw today. We think it's fixed. You should be able to login to each stream once now and it will remain logged in. Also, Gameplay 1 will no longer crash.

I would love to see if it's working for everyone else before we get going tomorrow, so feel free to hop on and confirm.

Thanks!

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 25 2012 06:25 GMT
#4612
VODs are now up guys. Just wanted to let you know
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/mlg/arenavod
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
February 25 2012 06:30 GMT
#4613
On February 25 2012 15:15 jmbthirteen wrote:
So Huk, Ret, Oz, Leenock, Parting, MC, Violet and MKP have all secured top 16 which means they will be in the groups at MLG Columbus. Looking at the lower bracket I predict these will be the other 8:

Sheth, Nestea, Socke, DeMuslim, Thorzain, theStC, DRG, and MVP.

That would be 9 Koreans and 7 foreigners. Ganzi, Losira and San are the 3 Koreans I see not making it to the top 16.


I think that's a pretty solid prediction. I'll be reasonably happy if it plays out that way.

Overall I thought it was a pretty good draw. Lots of entertaining matches.

I initially thought MKP was a bit stiff to catch Losira in the first round considering how much Losira has controlled their games in recent times. Sure didn't turn out that way Gogo MKP!!!
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
February 25 2012 06:31 GMT
#4614
On February 25 2012 15:18 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 15:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:50 HolyArrow wrote:

When I travel and get jetlagged, it's not that I don't want to sleep - I lie in bed all night trying to, but sometimes, sleep just doesn't come. You're basically saying "There's no excuse for something that's impossible to control". Think about how silly that sounds.


There are things you can do to decrease it.


But there's nothing you can do to prevent it.


You can prevent though. I just said that. ._.

Some of the methods work wonders for people such as myself. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone else though.


You didn't say you can prevent it... you said you can decrease it. Those words don't mean the same thing as far as I know >_> I have my personal ways of coping with it as well (I go on vacation every year so I'm pretty used to traveling and have my own system worked out), but it merely makes jetlag not as bad, rather than eliminating it altogether. That's what I mean.

take a sleeping pill, take a swig of liquor, or jerk off to sleep/nap or whatever to maintain your shape. maybe they didn't travel that much, but its not that hard to overcome... you just take a nap.
Para5
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:35:37
February 25 2012 06:34 GMT
#4615
On February 25 2012 15:20 mvtaylor wrote:
Right, here's my thoughts on the MLG stuff so far:

Overall it's been pretty good. Login problems happened a little bit but after logging in six times over the five streams it was fine. I do hope people who didn't pay were actually being paywalled and not able to watch no problem as people were saying in the thread.

VODs weren't up "20 minutes after a game ended" but being up at the end of the day was fine, still pretty sharp.

We won't have any downtime, well, sorry but there was downtime. Yes there may have been one or two streams with casters chatting on but fairly often there were times with no matches happening and around two streams simply chucking up a "coming up next" plate.

Dr Pepper All Access Stream. Hmm, more like the access almost nothing stream. Yes there were SOME interviews but it consisted mainly of just showing people on couches in a room watches the main stream. If, as they stated, they were trying to recreate the HSC type feel on this stream they failed I'm afraid.

Here's hoping to a better day 2!

(Games and everything were still fantastic though, no lag on 1080p etc etc, I'm not really complaining but just pointing out areas where MLG didn't deliver on their promises)



I also experienced some login problems but that could have been because I had to create an account for this event lol (new to the watching scene). As far as the VOD's being up, I still cannot access the round 2 ones. Also some of the VOD links went to different games... and not sure if I'm missing something but I cannot change the video quality of the VOD's so I have to wait forever for it the buffer first

I wish I had your internet connection... I had to go to 360p to watch without lag and massive stuttering Any tips? I'm from southern Ontario using Bell.


Para


Edit: Forgot to mention that the games that I did get to watch were kickass!
The only thing OP is knowledge :)
entrust
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland196 Posts
February 25 2012 06:35 GMT
#4616
OK can anybody tell me where the hell MLG winter arena location is? I'm in New York and I'd go watch it live, but I got tired already of looking for it on MLG site.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
February 25 2012 06:37 GMT
#4617
On February 25 2012 15:35 entrust wrote:
OK can anybody tell me where the hell MLG winter arena location is? I'm in New York and I'd go watch it live, but I got tired already of looking for it on MLG site.


Its a LAN event, not an open spectator event.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 06:38:41
February 25 2012 06:38 GMT
#4618
On February 25 2012 15:31 justsayinbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:18 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 25 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 15:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:58 StarStruck wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:50 HolyArrow wrote:

When I travel and get jetlagged, it's not that I don't want to sleep - I lie in bed all night trying to, but sometimes, sleep just doesn't come. You're basically saying "There's no excuse for something that's impossible to control". Think about how silly that sounds.


There are things you can do to decrease it.


But there's nothing you can do to prevent it.


You can prevent though. I just said that. ._.

Some of the methods work wonders for people such as myself. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone else though.


You didn't say you can prevent it... you said you can decrease it. Those words don't mean the same thing as far as I know >_> I have my personal ways of coping with it as well (I go on vacation every year so I'm pretty used to traveling and have my own system worked out), but it merely makes jetlag not as bad, rather than eliminating it altogether. That's what I mean.

take a sleeping pill, take a swig of liquor, or jerk off to sleep/nap or whatever to maintain your shape. maybe they didn't travel that much, but its not that hard to overcome... you just take a nap.


I don't think you understand how jetlag works. It affects different people differently. You act as if all our bodies are perfectly, 100% identical biological machines. It's easy to sit there and propose all these different solutions to dealing with jetlag that work for you specifically, but you need to empathize and understand that those solutions don't work for everyone. I've traveled many times in my life with my family and friends, and I've seen the various different ways people deal with jetlag, and the varying efficacy of those methods on different people.
entrust
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland196 Posts
February 25 2012 06:38 GMT
#4619
On February 25 2012 15:37 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 15:35 entrust wrote:
OK can anybody tell me where the hell MLG winter arena location is? I'm in New York and I'd go watch it live, but I got tired already of looking for it on MLG site.


Its a LAN event, not an open spectator event.

AWWWWWW FCK! Just when I got free saturday they go LAN.
MLG_Lish
Profile Joined February 2011
31 Posts
February 25 2012 06:40 GMT
#4620
On February 25 2012 14:35 DeAnconia wrote:
Anyone else having trouble purchasing this?

I've been trying to give them my money all night, but the link...

https://secure.justin.tv/mlg_arena/subscribe/123/info

Has been 'down' all night for me. All other roads seem to point me here.



Try this one: https://secure.justin.tv/mlg_arena/subscribe/123/
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