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[IPL] TAC2: TSL vs StarTale WR2 (Day 15) - Page 4

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Taiki
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway57 Posts
February 16 2012 02:19 GMT
#61
Holy forcefields...
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 02:23:28
February 16 2012 02:23 GMT
#62
What has happened to TSL...this team is just...mediocre now. Just too many good players leaving
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:24 GMT
#63
No 3rd All-kill: Zenex against Reign, FXO against NSHoseo, this would be the 3rd AK if Ace wins
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 16 2012 02:28 GMT
#64
Besides the fact that all the TSL players except Polt are average, another weakness for TSL is that they're too zerg heavy. At this point Ace has beaten 3 zergs, but here TSL is sending out yet another zerg because they don't really have a choice. If the GSL is any indication zergs at the top aren't doing so well right now so that only makes TSL's situation even worse.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 02:31:02
February 16 2012 02:30 GMT
#65
Did you see that probe micro by Ace where he held position with the 2 probes at the choke of the gas/minerals while using the small ranged attack with the probes from behind so the lings just ran around stupid while taking damage? That was AWESOME!
$♥$
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:35 GMT
#66
All-kill denied!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 16 2012 02:36 GMT
#67
Nooo Ace. So close. Great showing though!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 16 2012 02:36 GMT
#68
Sick burrow roach use.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:42 GMT
#69
Doa! What the hell!? Gave me a good laugh there.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:46 GMT
#70
Baneling-roach bust vs Maruader-hellion attack...who wins?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
February 16 2012 02:48 GMT
#71
Do the coaches not look at player statistics? Virus is far and away best vs toss, so why would you throw him against a zerg? Whereas symbol is the worst against zerg. Why not use curious who is really really good vs zerg? Or july who is decent against zerg?

Tsl's player choices leading up to this point were also quite terrible statistics-wise. Ace is worst against protoss and tsl didn't throw any toss at him (they don't have great toss, but in terms of stats, ace is terrible against toss, why not try it?)
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 16 2012 02:50 GMT
#72
TSL struggling so much lately. Time for a coaching change.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
February 16 2012 02:50 GMT
#73
On February 16 2012 11:48 boxman22 wrote:
Do the coaches not look at player statistics? Virus is far and away best vs toss, so why would you throw him against a zerg? Whereas symbol is the worst against zerg. Why not use curious who is really really good vs zerg? Or july who is decent against zerg?

Tsl's player choices leading up to this point were also quite terrible statistics-wise. Ace is worst against protoss and tsl didn't throw any toss at him (they don't have great toss, but in terms of stats, ace is terrible against toss, why not try it?)

I agreed with what you said until you said July is decent at ZvZ. ZvZ is the bane of his existence. Having said that, I think curious was the right option to send out.
:O
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:51 GMT
#74
On February 16 2012 11:48 boxman22 wrote:
Do the coaches not look at player statistics? Virus is far and away best vs toss, so why would you throw him against a zerg? Whereas symbol is the worst against zerg. Why not use curious who is really really good vs zerg? Or july who is decent against zerg?

Tsl's player choices leading up to this point were also quite terrible statistics-wise. Ace is worst against protoss and tsl didn't throw any toss at him (they don't have great toss, but in terms of stats, ace is terrible against toss, why not try it?)


It might depend on simply who is available from Startale. Either way, Startale is so far ahead right now that they can afford to send out anyone.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
February 16 2012 02:53 GMT
#75
On February 16 2012 11:48 boxman22 wrote:
Do the coaches not look at player statistics? Virus is far and away best vs toss, so why would you throw him against a zerg? Whereas symbol is the worst against zerg. Why not use curious who is really really good vs zerg? Or july who is decent against zerg?

Tsl's player choices leading up to this point were also quite terrible statistics-wise. Ace is worst against protoss and tsl didn't throw any toss at him (they don't have great toss, but in terms of stats, ace is terrible against toss, why not try it?)


ROFL? Coaches know their players better than we do. You can't judge a player simply based on match statistics. Maybe Virus is really good vs Zerg in practice? Maybe he's improved his TvZ greatly, but hasn't had a chance to showcase it? Official matches aren't everything. Or maybe Virus wanted to play, maybe the coach wanted Virus to try his luck against a rising Zerg player. A lot of things go into roster choices.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 16 2012 02:53 GMT
#76
DAT FUNGLE! I normally don't get too excited about fungles but THAT on the marines was fantastic. Good for him for knowing the map (and fungle range) that well.

Great little engagement.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
February 16 2012 02:55 GMT
#77
On February 16 2012 11:50 wattabeast wrote:
I agreed with what you said until you said July is decent at ZvZ. ZvZ is the bane of his existence. Having said that, I think curious was the right option to send out.


Oops you're right... July has a 33% win rate v zerg in korea. Surprisingly internationally he has a 61% win rate and it's his 2nd highest.
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
February 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#78
OMG those banes.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#79
O_O wow those baneling mines!
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
February 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#80
On February 16 2012 11:53 bokchoi wrote:
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On February 16 2012 11:48 boxman22 wrote:
Do the coaches not look at player statistics? Virus is far and away best vs toss, so why would you throw him against a zerg? Whereas symbol is the worst against zerg. Why not use curious who is really really good vs zerg? Or july who is decent against zerg?

Tsl's player choices leading up to this point were also quite terrible statistics-wise. Ace is worst against protoss and tsl didn't throw any toss at him (they don't have great toss, but in terms of stats, ace is terrible against toss, why not try it?)


ROFL? Coaches know their players better than we do. You can't judge a player simply based on match statistics. Maybe Virus is really good vs Zerg in practice? Maybe he's improved his TvZ greatly, but hasn't had a chance to showcase it? Official matches aren't everything. Or maybe Virus wanted to play, maybe the coach wanted Virus to try his luck against a rising Zerg player. A lot of things go into roster choices.


Or he's losing and statistics would say that was the most likely outcome.
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