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On March 06 2012 00:26 turdburgler wrote: according to lectr huk idra was 2 weeks old incontrol machine was 2 months.
Indeed. People just come in here to post stupid shit after having read the OP if anything.
It's not like they can just redo the series with the reasoning "well the games aren't really very good". They decided to do it after their break, and had to stick with it. And that's how things are.
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On March 05 2012 09:00 murphs wrote: That was top 3 worst game I've seen. Yap, INcontroL vs Machine series looked like diamond series...No offense, but they were really badly played.
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On March 06 2012 00:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:13 Callobono wrote: Dude say what you want about this and that but i seen you stream silver leauge and bc rush yeah your own play so please dont call out other people as scrubs. Also you where like the biggest freekill of all the mages on daggerspine. Heh I like how you pretend to have some knowledge you can use against me. Shame I migrated to Mazrigos as soon as it was available and barely spent any time on Laggerspine. But by all means, let's drag out some World of Warcraft PvP in 2005 to try and prove a point, that'll make you sound rational. Yes I can call people out for having scrub attitudes. If you understand nothing of the competitive mindset, you are likely to whine about dumb shit. Terran imba! Protoss imba! Omg cheese! Abuse! Yeah yeah yeah, keep crying over doing it what it takes to win, please by all means.
Ha-ha! That was such a random exchange. Had to go back 2 pages of the thread to figure out who was replying to what.
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On March 06 2012 00:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 13:13 Callobono wrote: Dude say what you want about this and that but i seen you stream silver leauge and bc rush yeah your own play so please dont call out other people as scrubs. Also you where like the biggest freekill of all the mages on daggerspine. Heh I like how you pretend to have some knowledge you can use against me. Shame I migrated to Mazrigos as soon as it was available and barely spent any time on Laggerspine. But by all means, let's drag out some World of Warcraft PvP in 2005 to try and prove a point, that'll make you sound rational. Yes I can call people out for having scrub attitudes. If you understand nothing of the competitive mindset, you are likely to whine about dumb shit. Terran imba! Protoss imba! Omg cheese! Abuse! Yeah yeah yeah, keep crying over doing it what it takes to win, please by all means.
Wait, were you the same totalbiscuit that did previews of the cata dungeons from beta?
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On March 05 2012 22:36 a5mod wrote: Just leave the guy alone. He's not the best, he doesn't have the highest amount of APM but he is still better than everyone in this thread and will get a better waifu than most of us (if we ever get one lol). I used to write a lot of mean things to incontrol through twitter/4chan/reddit and I won't say I regret EVERYTHING but it is going a little to far. I don't like a lot of aspects of Incontrol's personality but at least he tries the hardest in everything he does. Just watch the last episode of SotG and you'll see that without him this "show" would be a joke. I also watched him commenting hero's play live on his stream and it was quite awesome. I feel like the Starcraft community would miss a lot without him.
So cheer up Incontrol.
"but he is still better than everyone in this thread" and you know that....HOW?!..
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On March 06 2012 00:58 Ghanburighan wrote: Ha-ha! That was such a random exchange. Had to go back 2 pages of the thread to figure out who was replying to what.
Yeah no shit. "Hey, I can't actually dispute a single thing you just said so let's engage in an ad hominem attack based on a game you played 7 years ago".
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On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote: Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged.
Who says that he isn't taking the criticism? It's other people who are saying all of that. I've never seen an iNcontroL post where he says anything that his "defenders" are saying. Who's saying that HE has a problem with being judged? It seems to me more that it's just fanboys that don't want him to be judged.
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On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote: read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't really give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is.
There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them.
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I take 4.5 months off every winter.
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On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote: Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged. What?
Since when does exposing yourself to the public mean you should be judged in every aspect? I'm sorry, but who makes people celebrities? Themselves, or the people that watch them? You are the one choosing to watch the game play, what exactly do you think gives you the right to attack the guy?
Wow, a lot of this thread has no amount of logic whatsoever.
Stay strong inControl, you're a classy guy.
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who won between incontrol and machine ?
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Watching incontrol vs machine just straight up hurt my brain..... Why the hell would EG drop axslav and not these two.
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On March 06 2012 00:02 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 23:53 turdburgler wrote:On March 05 2012 17:41 mrtomjones wrote:On March 05 2012 17:39 Dubsy wrote:On March 05 2012 10:17 Turo wrote:On March 05 2012 10:10 nvs. wrote:On March 05 2012 10:07 Turo wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote: read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. i think the hardest part of your job is that thousands of people sit down and analyze every part of your life. i bet if a thousand people sat down and scrutinized the people who criticize, they would get some empathy real quick. Kinda like a..... Sports athlete. Just kinda comes with the territory, always has. i think inc. is a bit different from a lot of professional athletes, in that we have access to his entire life. the barrier is so little it might as well not be there. guys who play in NFL, NBA, NHL, we don't know what they're doing on their days off, or in the offseason. we don't know a damn thing about their personal lives. on the field, we know everything. but off the field, most of the contact is done through the press. inc. has almost total transparency, which is something other athletes don't have. how would you feel if thousands of people knew what you were doing every day, when/where/how you proposed to your gf, etc. food for thought What a horrible post. You think Incontrol's private life is more public than Tom Brady or Kobe Bryant (or any pro athlete worth noting)? EL OH EL. Give your head a long, firm shake. Frankly it's starting to get incredibly frustrating reading and hearing incontrol constantly remind us how much he gives to the community and how he only gets hate in return. It sucks that it's getting this way because he's actually a smart, funny guy; but the fact remains the community supports his lifestyle 100%. There are guys out there who are more talented and grinding way harder that are getting no fan fare whatsoever and sure as shit no bank because they're not "chosen" by the community. This goes for players/casters/organizers/whatever else. It's really hard to watch this unfold and I hope incontrol is careful with these rants because if he starts to lose his fanbase its lights out for him. It's not like he's idra or HuK and if he pisses off the community he can just go win an MLG and smooth it all out. Incontrol's fan base aren't the ones sitting here trolling him disagreeing and arguing with someone isnt trolling. i hate how no one uses the word correctly. It has to be my biggest pet peeve. Any disagreement, angry post, unintelligent post, unhappy post, unfriendly post, posts with just pictures, videos, memes...they are all "trolling."
Ive noticed that the SC community, especially Teamliquid, misuse the word "troll" pretty badly. Maybe due to the really strict moderation?
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On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote: read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't really give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them.
A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids.
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On March 06 2012 02:49 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote: Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged. What? Since when does exposing yourself to the public mean you should be judged in every aspect? I'm sorry, but who makes people celebrities? Themselves, or the people that watch them? You are the one choosing to watch the game play, what exactly do you think gives you the right to attack the guy? Wow, a lot of this thread has no amount of logic whatsoever. Stay strong inControl, you're a classy guy.
Incontrol is a public person. He has lots of eyes on him every day. It's kinda stupid to not expect to be judged and it's not like people are trying to get their nose into his intimate life. They just process the information about him available on the internet and express their opinions.
If he can't deal with it he should stop appearing everywhere.
And this is available for every progamer out there that complains about the community commenting about what they do.
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Why is everyone always a dick to Incontrol in everything he is in? I don't understand. He may not be the best player in the world, but that doesn't make him less hard working / a bad person. He may not put up results in tournaments but neither does Nony or Jinro (anymore). And they get pure community love. No offense to them I love them both too.
Also I think it would be entertaining to see incontrol do a stream where he challenges people in the chat in Bo3s to all the people in this thread that claim, "I could beat incuntrol he sux l0l". If you haven't made grandmaster you wouldn't have a chance against him sorry to say.
And i'm not even an incontrol fan :S.
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On March 06 2012 03:33 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote: read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't really give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them. A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids.
Did you even read the posts you were quoting? We werent discussing player value. Youd have to be a fool to deny that iNcontroL is an S-class personality in eSports. We were solely discussing player skill. Point being, that while iNcontroL is a great personality, icon even, he's currently underperforming as a full time, heavily sponsored player.
Hardly worth the "grow up kids" comment.
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On March 06 2012 03:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 03:33 7mk wrote:On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote: read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't really give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them. A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids. Did you even read the posts you were quoting? We werent discussing player value. Youd have to be a fool to deny that iNcontroL is an S-class personality in eSports. We were solely discussing player skill. Point being, that while iNcontroL is a great personality, icon even, he's currently underperforming as a full time, heavily sponsored player. Hardly worth the "grow up kids" comment.
The pot calling the kettle black, here. You're being equally antagonizing: "Did you even read the posts you were quoting?" None of this drama would have happened if people were just a little nicer, you know, like normal people in the real world. You don't see people in real life conversations say the stuff you guys are writing to each other.
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On March 06 2012 03:41 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 02:49 Flonomenalz wrote:On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote: Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged. What? Since when does exposing yourself to the public mean you should be judged in every aspect? I'm sorry, but who makes people celebrities? Themselves, or the people that watch them? You are the one choosing to watch the game play, what exactly do you think gives you the right to attack the guy? Wow, a lot of this thread has no amount of logic whatsoever. Stay strong inControl, you're a classy guy. Incontrol is a public person. He has lots of eyes on him every day. It's kinda stupid to not expect to be judged and it's not like people are trying to get their nose into his intimate life. They just process the information about him available on the internet and express their opinions. If he can't deal with it he should stop appearing everywhere. And this is available for every progamer out there that complains about the community commenting about what they do.
Of course there a bunch of people on the internet who love to hide behind anonymity and attack public figures, but we can't just allow that. Progamers take huge risks by becoming progamers by putting careers and education on hold. Incontrol may not be the best progamer out there, but we certainly should not make personal attacks on him.
People are angry about him taking 2 months off, but that is ultimately his decision. I felt that he could have dealt with the critics better, but then again I am not in a position that he is in.
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On March 06 2012 03:43 Mementoss wrote: Why is everyone always a dick to Incontrol in everything he is in? I don't understand. He may not be the best player in the world, but that doesn't make him less hard working / a bad person. He may not put up results in tournaments but neither does Nony or Jinro (anymore). And they get pure community love. No offense to them I love them both too.
Also I think it would be entertaining to see incontrol do a stream where he challenges people in the chat in Bo3s to all the people in this thread that claim, "I could beat incuntrol he sux l0l". If you haven't made grandmaster you wouldn't have a chance against him sorry to say.
And i'm not even an incontrol fan :S.
I don't want to comment on the iNcontroL stuff, but 'no grandmaster' can beat a grandmaster player is absolute bullshit. Every high masters player has a good shot at taking out a grandmaster player any day.
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