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On March 06 2012 03:49 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 03:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 06 2012 03:33 7mk wrote:On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote:
read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't creally give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them. A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids. Did you even read the posts you were quoting? We werent discussing player value. Youd have to be a fool to deny that iNcontroL is an S-class personality in eSports. We were solely discussing player skill. Point being, that while iNcontroL is a great personality, icon even, he's currently underperforming as a full time, heavily sponsored player. Hardly worth the "grow up kids" comment. The pot calling the kettle black, here. You're being equally antagonizing: "Did you even read the posts you were quoting?" None of this drama would have happened if people were just a little nicer, you know, like normal people in the real world. You don't see people in real life conversations say the stuff you guys are writing to each other.
It was just a question. His post had nothing to do with what was quoted, I am legitimately curious as to whether he read the posts or not
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On March 06 2012 03:07 paic wrote:
who won between incontrol and machine ?
Can anyone answer this? Where the hell are the results for this thing?
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On March 06 2012 04:09 Clefairy wrote:Can anyone answer this? Where the hell are the results for this thing?
Incontrol 3-2
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On March 06 2012 03:41 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 02:49 Flonomenalz wrote:On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote:
Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged. What? Since when does exposing yourself to the public mean you should be judged in every aspect? I'm sorry, but who makes people celebrities? Themselves, or the people that watch them? You are the one choosing to watch the game play, what exactly do you think gives you the right to attack the guy? Wow, a lot of this thread has no amount of logic whatsoever. Stay strong inControl, you're a classy guy. Incontrol is a public person. He has lots of eyes on him every day. It's kinda stupid to not expect to be judged and it's not like people are trying to get their nose into his intimate life. They just process the information about him available on the internet and express their opinions. If he can't deal with it he should stop appearing everywhere. And this is available for every progamer out there that complains about the community commenting about what they do.
Who says he can't deal with it? Seems to me it's just the fanboys that can't.
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On March 06 2012 04:13 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 04:09 Clefairy wrote:On March 06 2012 03:07 paic wrote:
who won between incontrol and machine ? Can anyone answer this? Where the hell are the results for this thing? Incontrol 3-2
Thanks.
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On March 06 2012 04:27 Hulavuta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 03:41 ceaRshaf wrote:On March 06 2012 02:49 Flonomenalz wrote:On March 06 2012 00:28 ceaRshaf wrote:
Incontrol wants all the benefits of being a public figure but none of the responsibility. You expose yourself to the public expect to be judged. What? Since when does exposing yourself to the public mean you should be judged in every aspect? I'm sorry, but who makes people celebrities? Themselves, or the people that watch them? You are the one choosing to watch the game play, what exactly do you think gives you the right to attack the guy? Wow, a lot of this thread has no amount of logic whatsoever. Stay strong inControl, you're a classy guy. Incontrol is a public person. He has lots of eyes on him every day. It's kinda stupid to not expect to be judged and it's not like people are trying to get their nose into his intimate life. They just process the information about him available on the internet and express their opinions. If he can't deal with it he should stop appearing everywhere. And this is available for every progamer out there that complains about the community commenting about what they do. Who says he can't deal with it? Seems to me it's just the fanboys that can't.
Did you read his comments or just thought to jump like a brave fanboy and defend him?
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I'm not a fanboy, and I'm only defending him because I thought he wasn't, but if he actually WAS doing that, then I completely take it back.
I only read the past few pages and I didn't see anything there, sorry. Can you tell me where it is?
EDIT: nvm, I checked and it's around page 20, I take it back, I guess incontrol WAS the one who couldn't take it :o
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Ok, respect for admitting it  gg
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Well yeah, like I said, I'm not a fanboy, just defending him because I didn't want him to be lumped together with what the fanboys were saying, but in this case he should be.
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On February 14 2012 22:26 KinQuh wrote:
Dont care.
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lol out of this whole thread this guy made me laugh the most. Why would you say this lolol
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On March 05 2012 14:02 trinxified wrote:
I wonder if IdrA will even think of rage quitting against his own teammates.
Why does this matter?
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The thing that I'm most curious is how fast the hate would clear up if iNcontrol just stopped trying to be a player. Do you think people give a shit if Day9 or MrBitter or DjWheat or even Artosis play a BAD game (names chosen from the "personality" people of SC2, I know at least DjWheat is LOL bad). Or if those guys are in a horrible slump? Of course not. The problem remains that iNcontrol wants (gets) the exposure of all the big names in commentary and wants to be an elite player as well.
Fact of the matter is the hate comes from how he plays the game, not how he talks about it. And his value in the scene comes from how he talks about the game, not how he plays it. It's like impossible to tell someone to give up on their dream (pretty obviousy he doesn't wanna be a full time caster/analyst or he already would be a very good one). But if he ever gives up his attempt at being a progamer the hate he's getting will fade so fast.
Maybe he's doing it on purpose though. The most polarizing dude on his planet (AKA idra) is his team mate so any angst that incontrol deflects is probably gonna land on idra lololol. Good team guy.
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On March 06 2012 03:49 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 03:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 06 2012 03:33 7mk wrote:On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote:
read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't creally give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them. A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids. Did you even read the posts you were quoting? We werent discussing player value. Youd have to be a fool to deny that iNcontroL is an S-class personality in eSports. We were solely discussing player skill. Point being, that while iNcontroL is a great personality, icon even, he's currently underperforming as a full time, heavily sponsored player. Hardly worth the "grow up kids" comment. The pot calling the kettle black, here. You're being equally antagonizing: "Did you even read the posts you were quoting?" None of this drama would have happened if people were just a little nicer, you know, like normal people in the real world. You don't see people in real life conversations say the stuff you guys are writing to each other.
Or if some people here weren't arrogant and ridiculous enough to think their opinions mattered in the slightest. Seriously, criticizing some1 you have no relationship or affiliation to over the way they live their life and over decisions that don't impact yours in any way? =_______________________________________=
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Where can I find the VODs? There are none in the VOD section on the homepage.
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On March 05 2012 23:53 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2012 17:41 mrtomjones wrote:On March 05 2012 17:39 Dubsy wrote:On March 05 2012 10:17 Turo wrote:On March 05 2012 10:10 nvs. wrote:On March 05 2012 10:07 Turo wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote:
read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. i think the hardest part of your job is that thousands of people sit down and analyze every part of your life. i bet if a thousand people sat down and scrutinized the people who criticize, they would get some empathy real quick. Kinda like a..... Sports athlete. Just kinda comes with the territory, always has. i think inc. is a bit different from a lot of professional athletes, in that we have access to his entire life. the barrier is so little it might as well not be there. guys who play in NFL, NBA, NHL, we don't know what they're doing on their days off, or in the offseason. we don't know a damn thing about their personal lives. on the field, we know everything. but off the field, most of the contact is done through the press. inc. has almost total transparency, which is something other athletes don't have. how would you feel if thousands of people knew what you were doing every day, when/where/how you proposed to your gf, etc. food for thought What a horrible post. You think Incontrol's private life is more public than Tom Brady or Kobe Bryant (or any pro athlete worth noting)? EL OH EL. Give your head a long, firm shake. Frankly it's starting to get incredibly frustrating reading and hearing incontrol constantly remind us how much he gives to the community and how he only gets hate in return. It sucks that it's getting this way because he's actually a smart, funny guy; but the fact remains the community supports his lifestyle 100%. There are guys out there who are more talented and grinding way harder that are getting no fan fare whatsoever and sure as shit no bank because they're not "chosen" by the community. This goes for players/casters/organizers/whatever else. It's really hard to watch this unfold and I hope incontrol is careful with these rants because if he starts to lose his fanbase its lights out for him. It's not like he's idra or HuK and if he pisses off the community he can just go win an MLG and smooth it all out. Incontrol's fan base aren't the ones sitting here trolling him disagreeing and arguing with someone isnt trolling. i hate how no one uses the word correctly.
Except for the fact that if you read some of these posts it is clearly trolling for many of them. And do the rest really need to make comments all the time? You don't see it done on nearly the same level for other players like Nony etc.
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On March 06 2012 03:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 03:33 7mk wrote:On March 06 2012 02:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:14 Manifesto7 wrote:On March 05 2012 10:09 Ruscour wrote:On March 05 2012 10:04 iNcontroL wrote:
read my fucking post. It wasn't 2 months. And it was for a good fucking reason. Get tired of justifying my life to a lot of you. Stop comparing my job to others.. it's NOT THE SAME. Go yell at some teachers for taking summers off you idiot. You don't seem to understand why people are so upset. You are in a position of absolute privilege. There are so many people who wish they could be in your position in your profession. There are not many people in this world who have the work ethic to put in the time required to make it as a progamer, but they do exist. Whether or not it was two months or not is irrelevant at this point. When you say "well sorry, we just got back from our 2 month holiday", it comes across that you just take what you have for granted. It looks like you don't really give a shit. You've made it as a progamer, so who cares, right? There are people who play this game in every inch of their spare time, trying to make it as a pro while supporting themselves or whatever. So if you're really shocked about the response to your initial post, it really shouldn't boggle you like it did. If two months off was so terrible, the people that played non-stop would be able to beat them and your point would be validated. But they don't! So it isn't! But they do, so it is. There are plenty of players out there that train every day yet don't get the same benefits that say, iNcontroL or Machine do, and yet can reliably beat them. A players "value" isnt only about how good his SC2 skills are, big fucking news, welcome to reality. Ive really liked rooting against EG for a while with all the healthy TL vs EG rivalry , esp. shortly after Huk changing teams, but all this constant negativity against EG is just fucking annoying. Grow up kids. Did you even read the posts you were quoting? We werent discussing player value. Youd have to be a fool to deny that iNcontroL is an S-class personality in eSports. We were solely discussing player skill. Point being, that while iNcontroL is a great personality, icon even, he's currently underperforming as a full time, heavily sponsored player. Hardly worth the "grow up kids" comment.
Your point wasnt just that theres other players that are better than him, it was that theres other people who feel like they deserve his spot, that he is "privileged", implying that they might deserve it more than him.
the other part of my post was more of a rant about people in this thread (and outside of this thread) in general, not directly directed at you, although I can see how it might look like that.
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On March 06 2012 07:15 illu23 wrote:
Where can I find the VODs? There are none in the VOD section on the homepage.
This.
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Can't wait for Orb to cast this!
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