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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#461
On February 12 2012 02:14 woob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:12 ZeromuS wrote:
I have to point out where's woob? I thought he was telling us all that Terran can't beat protoss?

its not fair how someone who is clearly much much better at the game, like supernova can lose to someone like real who isnt even top tier in europe

supernova is supposed to own him!


SuperNoVa went 3-2 against some random Russian kid so is Zerg OP as well?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#462
1/1/1 inc. The moment I see that early supply depot I'm expanding and getting a robo.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#463
On February 12 2012 02:15 vndods wrote:
1-1-1 incoming.

What do you expect? Its Dual Sight. Just as bad as Xel'Naga
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#464
On February 12 2012 02:14 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 XiGua wrote:
Hm... Discussion topic:

Should the opponent be able to see if HTs have storm or not?


No he shouldn't be able to.


Why not? They can see if Roaches have burrowed movement. And templars with storm is way more important than roaches with burrowed movement


Because templars on the battlefield make terran think twice before engaging. If you see it's just a useless unit you a move and win.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#465
On February 12 2012 02:15 eourcs wrote:
Why do they still use Dual Sight, I thought everybody agreed that it's a complete trash map.


Who know.
Tournament still have shakuras or shattered temple so. :o
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#466
Interesting build... Haven't seen this before.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#467
On February 12 2012 02:16 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:14 iamthedave wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 XiGua wrote:
Hm... Discussion topic:

Should the opponent be able to see if HTs have storm or not?


No he shouldn't be able to.


Why not? They can see if Roaches have burrowed movement. And templars with storm is way more important than roaches with burrowed movement


They can see Roaches moving while burrowed, they can't see whether the ability is there or not if the Zerg doesn't show it (as far as I'm aware).

Same goes for HT and Storm.

IIRC roaches get some sort of spike on their back or some other kind of visual effect when they have burrowed movement, like Speedlings get little wings.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:17:19
February 11 2012 17:16 GMT
#468
On February 12 2012 02:15 EatCrow wrote:
Who the hell is pinging?

The Brazilians.
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
February 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#469
On February 12 2012 02:15 EatCrow wrote:
Who the hell is pinging?


The pinging has been a persistent problem with this tournament. No one informed the various observers for various casts how to disable them nor to simply not do them.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
February 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#470
On February 12 2012 02:16 FreudianTrip wrote:
1/1/1 inc. The moment I see that early supply depot I'm expanding and getting a robo.



Nope :D
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
February 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#471
On February 12 2012 02:12 ZeromuS wrote:
I have to point out where's woob? I thought he was telling us all that Terran can't beat protoss?


Real made huge mistakes in both of the last two games. On lost temple he threw away a warpprism with 4 sentries while going all in off of 2 bases. On Shakuras he stayed on 2 bases forever (he never actually mined from his third Nexus) while his opponent already had 4 bases.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:21:05
February 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#472
On February 12 2012 02:11 Seraphone wrote:
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On February 12 2012 02:02 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 Seraphone wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys

Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense.

I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something.


Real has played way, way better than anyone of those guys in 2012.

Well Bischu hasnt really played any events in 2012, and I'd consider Sockes run in HSC 4 more impressive than Reals (Who IMO was very lucky with his groups).
Maybe I didnt really give the best example of players, but I wouldnt consider Real up there with the top tosses in EU.
If we're talking about 2012 I'd say Feast, Pomi and Grubby have been a lot more impressive than Real so far.


Wrong again.

Real has gone Ro4 at IEM Sao Paolo.
Ro8 at HSC4.

The only only other event this year has been IEM Kiev.

No way did another EU Protoss play better than that.

wrong with what? I didnt even say that any player had better results LOL? for being from UK, you're damn bad at understanding your own language.

Real was really lucky with his groups at HSC 4, Sockes run>Reals run. Socke won a group that consisted of ThorZaIN and Nerchio, while Real won a group consisting of 2 pvps + Dimaga (who had a horrible pvz at the time, and it's still his weakest matchup), and in the second groupstage he was without doubt in the easiest group. And really do you consider his IEM run impressive? really?

IMO Pomi, Grubby and Feast have had a thousand times more impressive runs in 2012.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
February 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#473
On February 12 2012 02:16 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:14 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 ZeromuS wrote:
I have to point out where's woob? I thought he was telling us all that Terran can't beat protoss?

its not fair how someone who is clearly much much better at the game, like supernova can lose to someone like real who isnt even top tier in europe

supernova is supposed to own him!


SuperNoVa went 3-2 against some random Russian kid so is Zerg OP as well?

no
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 11 2012 17:18 GMT
#474
" Hellions are so cost effective ! "

3 hellions cost more than 5 probes Rotti <<
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#475
On February 12 2012 02:18 Noocta wrote:
" Hellions are so cost effective ! "

3 hellions cost more than 5 probes Rotti <<


+ mining time.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#476
On February 12 2012 02:18 Noocta wrote:
" Hellions are so cost effective ! "

3 hellions cost more than 5 probes Rotti <<

You have to add the minerls which they would mine being alive ,)
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#477
On February 12 2012 02:16 Flanq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:16 Talin wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:14 iamthedave wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 XiGua wrote:
Hm... Discussion topic:

Should the opponent be able to see if HTs have storm or not?


No he shouldn't be able to.


Why not? They can see if Roaches have burrowed movement. And templars with storm is way more important than roaches with burrowed movement


They can see Roaches moving while burrowed, they can't see whether the ability is there or not if the Zerg doesn't show it (as far as I'm aware).

Same goes for HT and Storm.

IIRC roaches get some sort of spike on their back or some other kind of visual effect when they have burrowed movement, like Speedlings get little wings.


Oh.

Well that's useful to know. I had no idea
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#478
On February 12 2012 02:16 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:15 eourcs wrote:
Why do they still use Dual Sight, I thought everybody agreed that it's a complete trash map.


Who know.
Tournament still have shakuras or shattered temple so. :o

What? Shakuras is a great map.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#479
On February 12 2012 02:18 woob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:16 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:14 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:12 ZeromuS wrote:
I have to point out where's woob? I thought he was telling us all that Terran can't beat protoss?

its not fair how someone who is clearly much much better at the game, like supernova can lose to someone like real who isnt even top tier in europe

supernova is supposed to own him!


SuperNoVa went 3-2 against some random Russian kid so is Zerg OP as well?

no


So your argument only applies to Protoss
I've got moves like Jagger
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 11 2012 17:19 GMT
#480
On February 12 2012 02:18 Noocta wrote:
" Hellions are so cost effective ! "

3 hellions cost more than 5 probes Rotti <<

Lost mining time from the 5 missing probes+probe pull = it was good for the terran
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