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On February 11 2012 14:41 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:40 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Wtf mole, you don't know what race the players are? There's 2 Dream's, one's a Protoss on TSL and the other is a Terran on MVP.
And mole is casting TSL, not MVP....seems like something a professional would check before the cast. Sports announcers rarely miss names despite having more and far larger rosters to learn.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:41 Fionn wrote:
TSLDream looks like MarineKing.
Pretty sure he's just MarineKing playing under a false ID.
False ID AND Off racing? What a baws!
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Seeker, you have your lineup mixed up in the OP.
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On February 11 2012 14:44 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So just because Artosis did it it's fine for Moletrap to do it? It wasn't very good to hear Artosis bash players back then, it isn't now. And Artosis hasn't really been bashing any players lately. Also Artosis is a lot of times better and knows much more than Moletrap about the players.
I'd also argue that Artosis USUALLY only does it for players that have been showing a consistently bad performance for a fairly long time. Remember him and Tasteless joking about Kyrix? I don't think anyone is gonna criticise them for that, Kyrix was hanging out in code S way past his sell-by date and they were just pointing it out.
Flat out calling Sculp a scrub is not the same thing.
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People should really stop shitting on moletrap. He does a great job, and if you don't like it, you can always watch on mute without bitching in the forums.
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On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately.
Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it.
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On February 11 2012 14:44 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:43 MrCon wrote:
Wolf is the best code A/GSTL caster but I see him less and less TT Wolf is a veteran now of the GSL like Tastosis, so he doesn't have to work as much. It's usually the newer guys who get the most workload.
And he's working with other stuff for GSL like off the record. I wish Wolf casted more tho.
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On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately.
Saying a person played badly in a game and questioning his decision making while casting THAT game is being critical.
Calling you a scrub just because you played badly in ANOTHER game (and just one game at that). And continuing to call you a scrub after you've just beaten the other team's ace is fucking disrespectful and lacking in professionalism.
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Australia18228 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it.
No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out.
On February 11 2012 14:49 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Saying a person played badly in a game and questioning his decision making while casting THAT game is being critical. Calling you a scrub just because you played badly in ANOTHER game (and just one game at that). And continuing to call you a scrub after you've just beaten the other team's ace is fucking disrespectful and lacking in professionalism.
Artosis has always called out players on their previous game showing (TheBest) multiple times and yet there's no criticism for him. And if you were even listening to MoleTrap, instead of being blinded by your hate, you would actually listen to the fact that MoleTrap said he 'looked' like a scrub in previous showings but after the game, he was wrong and Sculp was actually a good player.
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On February 11 2012 14:47 Razakel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:44 pdd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So just because Artosis did it it's fine for Moletrap to do it? It wasn't very good to hear Artosis bash players back then, it isn't now. And Artosis hasn't really been bashing any players lately. Also Artosis is a lot of times better and knows much more than Moletrap about the players. I'd also argue that Artosis USUALLY only does it for players that have been showing a consistently bad performance for a fairly long time. Remember him and Tasteless joking about Kyrix? I don't think anyone is gonna criticise them for that, Kyrix was hanging out in code S way past his sell-by date and they were just pointing it out. Flat out calling Sculp a scrub is not the same thing.
heh, or bitbybitprime xD. Artosis tore his ass a new one when Moon finally knocked him out of the gsl.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:47 babysimba wrote:
Seeker, you have your lineup mixed up in the OP.
Fixed. Thank you
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On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it. No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out.
Now you're just spinning this into " people hate moletrap that's why its a big deal " Which is completely false. pdd said it well.
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Moletrap sick or something?
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2012 GSTL Day 6: Group B Consolation Match
NSHS 1-0 TSL
Game 2
Sculp vs Dream
Calm Before The Storm
0:00
Sculp spawns T7
Dream spawns P4
Sculp opens CC first and Dream opts for Nexus first
Dream's scout goes the wrong way but Sculp gets lucky
Sculp builds 3rd CC in main
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it. No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out.
While I agree that Moletrap gets hated on more than he deserves (note: I don't like him either, but he is tolerable and I don't mind it), I think one of the problems people have with him is his lack of knowledge about most players and tournaments. Time and again he's had no clue about who players are. Just last night he didn't know about the Iron Squid tournament at all. As a caster he should know as much as he possibly can about everything SC2 related, esp in Korea. I think it is because of this lack of knowledge that he gets hated on when he calls someone bad after seeing so few games.
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On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Artosis has always called out players on their previous game showing (TheBest) multiple times and yet there's no criticism for him. And if you were even listening to MoleTrap, instead of being blinded by your hate, you would actually listen to the fact that MoleTrap said he 'looked' like a scrub in previous showings but after the game, he was wrong and Sculp was actually a good player.
Go read one of my previous posts. It wasn't very respectful when Artosis did it. Doesn't mean Moletrap has to do it. Wolf doesn't, Doa doesnt, Tasteless doesn't (unless prompted by Artosis), and Khaldor also doesn't.
Also Artosis hasn't really been disrespectful to anyone lately, except for TheBest and that was back in the World Championship.
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United States15275 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it. No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:49 pdd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Saying a person played badly in a game and questioning his decision making while casting THAT game is being critical. Calling you a scrub just because you played badly in ANOTHER game (and just one game at that). And continuing to call you a scrub after you've just beaten the other team's ace is fucking disrespectful and lacking in professionalism. Artosis has always called out players on their previous game showing (TheBest) multiple times and yet there's no criticism for him. And if you were even listening to MoleTrap, instead of being blinded by your hate, you would actually listen to the fact that MoleTrap said he 'looked' like a scrub in previous showings but after the game, he was wrong and Sculp was actually a good player.
Just because Sculp wins a game doesn't mean he is good. Just because he loses a series doesn't mean he is bad. Moletrap recanting on his words means nothing to me because I have zero confidence that he could actually differentiate between a badly won game and a well-played loss.
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Australia18228 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:52 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it. No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out. While I agree that Moletrap gets hated on more than he deserves (note: I don't like him either, but he is tolerable and I don't mind it), I think one of the problems people have with him is his lack of knowledge about most players and tournaments. Time and again he's had no clue about who players are. Just last night he didn't know about the Iron Squid tournament at all. As a caster he should know as much as he possibly can about everything SC2 related, esp in Korea. I think it is because of this lack of knowledge that he gets hated on when he calls someone bad after seeing so few games.
Except every other caster is exactly the same. Not everyone can keep up with Code S/A, KSL, Korean Weekly, Playhem, weekly events, foreign tournaments, team events.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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On February 11 2012 14:49 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:48 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Maybe in your world of definitions there is no difference but when you're casting to a live audience you better be damn careful what you say, that is a word that sticks out in a bad way. He should know he will get hate for it. No, it's the fact that the biased MoleTrap hatred will make everyone pick on him, regardless of how he points it out. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:49 pdd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:46 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:44 Dodgin wrote:On February 11 2012 14:42 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 11 2012 14:40 zhurai wrote:On February 11 2012 14:39 Toppp wrote:On February 11 2012 14:38 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Polt taken out by one of NSHoSeo's scrubs."
Moletrap, choose your words, better, please. That's a dick thing to say and obviously incorrect. Moletrap has no knowledge of any Korean players, you have to take that into account. doesn't make it any less of a mean thing or not to say How many players has Artosis put down based on a terrible showing in earlier GSLs? -San, NesTea, MKP, TheBest etc. So much biased hatred towards MoleTrap. You don't have to enjoy him but putting him down for everything he does, is so annoying. There's a difference between Artosis saying that players are not very good and calling a korean pro-gamer a Scrub No, there isn't. People have different ways of describing things, and it's extremely obvious that he's implying he same thing as when Artosis calls someone 'bad'. Khaldor has also called out multiple players, in the KSL, for terrible decision making and everyone praises him for it... but when it comes to MoleTrap pointing out how someone looked terrible, everyone turns against him immediately. Saying a person played badly in a game and questioning his decision making while casting THAT game is being critical. Calling you a scrub just because you played badly in ANOTHER game (and just one game at that). And continuing to call you a scrub after you've just beaten the other team's ace is fucking disrespectful and lacking in professionalism. Artosis has always called out players on their previous game showing (TheBest) multiple times and yet there's no criticism for him. And if you were even listening to MoleTrap, instead of being blinded by your hate, you would actually listen to the fact that MoleTrap said he 'looked' like a scrub in previous showings but after the game, he was wrong and Sculp was actually a good player.
All Artosis has said (with the exception of BitByBit and LegalMinD) is that he doesn't like their playstyles. He's never called HongUn or TheBest bad, though he has said that TheBest has bad control, which is a completely different ball game.
I like how you think I hate Moletrap. I don't. I like him a hell of a lot better than some others. He just says stupid shit sometimes. I don't like it when Artosis insults players either.
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