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Update (For those of you wanting to know the results before the games are broadcasted):
+ Show Spoiler [RESULTS OF THE MATCH HERE] +
If you don't want to spoil the results, DO NOT SCROLL DOWN
For those interested in knowing the results of the match, they are as follows:
Sheth > Titan in game 4, making the score 2-2.
Titan > Ret 2-1 in the ACE match.
RoX defeats Liquid with a 3-2 score, giving RoX its first win, and Liquid its first loss.
PLEASE do not spoil this for those who do not want to be spoiled.
Hello everyone! Unfortunately, the replay of Titan vs. Sheth was an incorrect replay sent by the RoX manager. First, we want to apologize for this incident, we are truly sorry that this happened. Second, we would like to thank LiveZerg for informing us that there was a mistake. We will make sure to get the correct replay as soon as possible and cast the rest of the match for you all! Thanks for understanding and this is just one more reason why we are going live in season 3!
-NASL.
Date: Saturday, Feb 11 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU Rebroadcast: Saturday, Feb 11 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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-- 4 BO1 1v1s
-- If tied after all 4 games there is a BO3 Ace Match
- Players are picked before the match is started and picked based on the given map
- 7 Week Season
- Top 4 are seeded into Playoffs
RoX.KiS (0-3) vs Liquid (3-0)
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4
Ace Match (If Applicable)
Poll: Who will win?Liquid (58) 56% RoX.KiS (46) 44% 104 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Liquid
(Vote): RoX.KiS
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Could be another Liquid 3-0
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I don't think I've ever seen a 4 zerg cw lineup before... wow lol;
edit: tlpdfail;
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Slivko vs Jinro and Sheth vs Titan are probably the most exciting games on the card; Liquid` should win the other 2 convincingly (i think).. then again, i have been pretty terrible at guessing these results
Kennigit is so sure this is Liquid`s year so i can't really argue with that :p
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On February 10 2012 13:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen a 4 zerg cw lineup before... wow lol;
Titan is protoss, they bungled the TLPDizing.
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can't remember the last time i have seen jinro win anything i'd say it's atlease 3-1 liquid. and i think it'll go to the ace match.
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Jinro!!!!! Awesome to see you in the lineup, man. Gotta suck being the only Liquid' Terran atm :C
Don't worry, i'm sure the double acquisition of Nada+Dove by Liquid' will help you <3 (lol, if that happened...)
Looks like a Liquid' 3-0 to me. Hero/Ret should get pretty easy wins, and Jinro's gotta be pumped for his first team league appearance in a while. TL fighting!
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Hard to see Liquid lose this.
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ROX got shitty matchups indeed. They can still do it though, they do have a great lineup...LZ and sLivko can win their games, and a big maybe for Titan
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Slivko and Titan can pull through, I think. IDK anything about LZ so maybe him too. Still, go Liquid!
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After seeing sLivko yesterday against Ret he seems to be improving rapidly, might be intresting match for Jinro.
Titan vs Sheth seems intresting aswell, though Sheth is very good at ZvP so i would give him the edge. (if he needs to play)
Ret should win his match prity handly, same for HerO, then again in Starcraft we never know for sure 
Either a quick 3-0 for Liquid, or this will go to the Ace match and Liquid wins that.
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oh yeah Jinro is in! Gogo Liquid!
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I feel bad for Rox, I think they're much better than their 0-3 seems to show, although its hard to root against Liquid :x
I'll just hope for an epic match =)
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Liquid will take this I think. BUt what is up with Ret only playing ZvZ. Soon he will become a ZvZ god...
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Either gonna be a 3-1 or 3-0 I think. What I saw from Jinro in the EWM looked really solid, but slivko is probably the best player on RoxKis atm. Ret should win his ZvZ, especially cause Abver is not that good in it and HerO should have a clear advantage over LZ. And Sheth has shown really good ZvP that can push HerO to the edge of defeat (but still only the edge, cause you know it's HerO) , while Titans PvZ is really his weakpoint.
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Goes to ace match with slivko and Titan winning for roxkis.
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On February 10 2012 14:34 magicallypuzzled wrote:
can't remember the last time i have seen jinro win anything i'd say it's atlease 3-1 liquid. and i think it'll go to the ace match.
Jinro is in the quarterfinals of the EWM...
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I think Jinro might lose his match, TvZ isn't really his best matchup, as he's said himself.
Otherwise, I predict Liquid winning. Ret's ZvZ looked beastly at IEM, and Sheth has always been a great ZvP player.
And HerO just always wins, so...
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Hmm, we got a good safety net here with the BO3 ace, but I still trust Jinro to win nonetheless, especially on Antiga.
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HerO against a foreign Zerg and Sheth vs a Toss on frikkin' Bel'Shit Beach is basically 2 wins for Liquid.
This will probably be a 3-1 to Liquid.
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Jinro's first appearance in team leagues this season, iirc.
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Sweet I was looking for more action after dinner, GLHF to both but GOOooooo Liquid!
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Abver < Ret
Livezerg < Hero
sLivko > Jinro
Titan > Sheth
And Titan, if hes playing his best, could close off the ace match against Ret 2-1.
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That was just silly greedy by ret.. 15 hatch 16 pool in zvz? -_-!
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On February 11 2012 11:15 tnud wrote:
That was just silly greedy by ret.. 15 hatch 16 pool in zvz? -_-!
Especially on that map 
Then again ret is the king of drones hehe
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On February 11 2012 11:17 Synwave wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 11:15 tnud wrote:
That was just silly greedy by ret.. 15 hatch 16 pool in zvz? -_-! Especially on that map Then again ret is the king of drones hehe
If you go for a build that looses straight out to prob even a 12 pool in ZvZ don't know what you're up to.
Offensive spines are the greatest thing ever btw.
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On February 11 2012 11:10 sickle wrote:
Abver < Ret
Livezerg < Hero
sLivko > Jinro
Titan > Sheth
And Titan, if hes playing his best, could close off the ace match against Ret 2-1.
You are vastly overrating Titan's PvZ.
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Why is sLivko listed as a Korean? I don't think that Jinro has a good shot against him, his TvZ isn't that great and sLivko has shown impressive ZvT, but Antiga is pretty good for Terran, I think. Who knows, Jinro might be able to take it, but he's certainly not favored in that match-up.
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Pretty terrible play by hero
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Bah PvZ is a strange matchup atm. Protoss always fast expands but Zergs have started to punish it
EDIT: Quick 0-2 to RoX.KiS... what is GOING ON?!
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Wow, not the results people were expecting.
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i had already predicted rox.kis to win, their overall line up is too strong for liquid if their players play up to par.
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Alright I was hoping for a TL win but not a complete walkover.
Now Im hoping TL gets a win?!
Cmon Gorilla-Terran, bust out the simian rage!
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Tough first couple of games ... felt like Ret and HerO never stood a chance in those particular games. Lets go Jinro!
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Both players getting so incredibly greedy... hope Jinro likes his lategame TvZ...
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I always thought eastern europe is underrated (Empire, RoxKis), but I did expect Liquid to win this one.
Now Liquid fans should be scared after seeing todays games of Slivko vs Supernova.
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can someone summarize how hero lost??
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LOL! Censored! Good showing from RoX, I knew these players were good, so not that big of a surprise.
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On February 11 2012 11:46 -TesteR- wrote:
can someone summarize how hero lost??
blink stalker all in that was terribly executed and scouted too
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Yeah Jinro! I was worried after Slivko broke his position in the mid, but Jinro looking really good now.
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I don't know why, but seeing Jinro win is the most pleasure inducing thing to watch.
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JINROOOOOOOOO <3333
edit: kk no spoilers then XD
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You don't need spoilers in a LR thread about the event the thread is about.
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On February 11 2012 11:52 Dexington wrote:You don't need spoilers in a LR thread about the event the thread is about.
JINROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Fck yea winning again <3
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On February 11 2012 11:39 00Visor wrote:
I always thought eastern europe is underrated (Empire, RoxKis), but I did expect Liquid to win this one.
Now Liquid fans should be scared after seeing todays games of Slivko vs Supernova.
+ Show Spoiler +He seems to lose the same way he lost to Supernova, by beating himself. Not to take away from Jinro by any means.
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So happy Jinro won, Liquid still in this, and Jinro representing himself :D
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Man... I'd been looking forward to seeing Jinro win for some time now! :D:D:D Gogo Liquid~!
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Sheth got this!!! GO LIQUID!!! Wanna see Zenio in the ace!!!!!!!!
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On February 11 2012 11:53 Synwave wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 11:39 00Visor wrote:
I always thought eastern europe is underrated (Empire, RoxKis), but I did expect Liquid to win this one.
Now Liquid fans should be scared after seeing todays games of Slivko vs Supernova. + Show Spoiler +He seems to lose the same way he lost to Supernova, by beating himself. Not to take away from Jinro by any means.
Yea i agree. He seems to make alot of odd choices in his games, like in TvP he lost alot of workers at his third he made 0 workers after that.
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Sheth using LZ's account or something?
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Sheth needs something anti colossus or he's gonna lose :/
Does he even have a spire?
EDIT: Neural parasite it is.... let's see how this works out
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If Sheth loses it will be because he didn't get ling speed early.
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i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
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On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
lmfao for real? xD
NASL *worship*
Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless?
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Damn, did not expect rox to beat ret and hero. Oh well, great boost for the team I guess.
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Dunno why Sheth decided to commit to that battle, perfect forcefields cutting off all roaches while collusus just killed em all.
edit: On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
haha, I wonder how the actual game went
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all 3 games were bizarre.
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On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
That is just... weird O.o
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Does this series even matter though?
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On February 11 2012 12:08 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak lmfao NASL *worship* Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless?
Is this for real? This would be the most epic fail ever if so.
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JINROLLED
He's looking SO GOOD LATELY
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Wow, Jinro was the only win I think that's the probably the most surprising result... I'm happy he won, but was really hoping Sheth coulda pulled that one out...
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On February 11 2012 12:10 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:08 Asha` wrote:On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak lmfao NASL *worship* Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless? Is this for real? This would be the most epic fail ever if so.
You won then I presume? o_O
I mean they can't have gotten 5 replays and decided to cast 4 right? lol
On February 11 2012 12:11 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
yeah i see sheth played titan on daybreak :[
Real score please.
How did Sheth play?
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yeah i see sheth played titan on daybreak :[
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On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
Hah really?
It also strikes me as really strange the way the stream is muted after each game.
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On February 11 2012 12:10 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:08 Asha` wrote:On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak lmfao NASL *worship* Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless? Is this for real? This would be the most epic fail ever if so.
Wait, how can we verify this? And if this is true it is not NASL's fault it Roxkis because they sent the replay --> and if they sent the replay doesn't that mean they won anyways?
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On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
What? That's a serious issue. Did the wrong replay get sent? Or did nasl goof and broadcast the wrong replay?
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Hahahahaahahahahahaaha
NASL fail. I hope Sheth did indeed lose tho, even so wtf is this NASL
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On February 11 2012 12:11 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:10 nvs. wrote:On February 11 2012 12:08 Asha` wrote:On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak lmfao NASL *worship* Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless? Is this for real? This would be the most epic fail ever if so. You won then I presume? o_O I mean they can't have gotten 5 replays and decided to cast 4 right? lol Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:11 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
yeah i see sheth played titan on daybreak :[ Real score please.
If Rox sent the replays then presumably they did win, just the wrong rep or something got submitted and NASL didn't doublecheck why "Sheth" wasn't Sheth.
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Wow, I just informed the stream chat about the post of LiveZerg. It got deleted immediately. NASL -.-
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On February 11 2012 12:12 00Visor wrote:
Wow, I just informed the stream chat about the post of LiveZerg. It got deleted immediately. NASL -.-
Really?? O___O
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On February 11 2012 12:12 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:11 tnud wrote:On February 11 2012 12:10 nvs. wrote:On February 11 2012 12:08 Asha` wrote:On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak lmfao NASL *worship* Should we presume Titan won the Daybreak game regardless? Is this for real? This would be the most epic fail ever if so. You won then I presume? o_O I mean they can't have gotten 5 replays and decided to cast 4 right? lol On February 11 2012 12:11 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
yeah i see sheth played titan on daybreak :[ Real score please. If Rox sent the replays then presumably they did win, just the wrong rep or something got submitted and NASL didn't doublecheck why "Sheth" wasn't Sheth.
Even if Rox did win, I still want to see all the games
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Congrats to Rox Kis! Big win over Liquid.
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It was even LiveZergs nick in the replay, how is that possible?
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I'm so confused... What is going on?
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On February 11 2012 12:14 Quakie wrote:
It was even LiveZergs nick in the replay, how is that possible?
Could be Sheth playing on his account. Maybe they agreed to play (partly) on EU.
Was wondering as well.
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If the game mix-up is true, well, then this might be the finest NASL fail since the live event and the 30 minute promos that repeated and ran ten times throughout the day.
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LOL what was that sound just now from Gretorp?
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haha The stream chat is everyone talking about wrong game, the admin is "talking to his superiors"
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On February 11 2012 12:15 nvs. wrote:
I'm so confused... What is going on?
Livezerg thinks its the wrong replay. He believes its a practice game of him vs Titan. People are also saying Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
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Oh NASL you never cease to amaze.
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Wait so did Titan or sheth win?
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Need to speak to the RoX manager because the replay file that he sent me is titled "Titan vs Sheth" ... so I think it's more likely that Sheth played on LiveZerg's account, and it was played on EU. I am waiting for RoX's manager to log on.
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Once again, its not NASL's fault. It's Roxkis for sending the wrong replay which if true, they should be penalized (like it matters)
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On February 11 2012 12:18 Xeris wrote:
Need to speak to the RoX manager because the replay file that he sent me is titled "Titan vs Sheth" ... so I think it's more likely that Sheth played on LiveZerg's account, and it was played on EU. I am waiting for RoX's manager to log on.
Doesn't seem like it from LiveZergs statement in this thread.
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On February 11 2012 12:19 McFeser wrote:Once again, its not NASL's fault. It's Roxkis for sending the wrong replay which if true, they should be penalized (like it matters )
Uhm, if its true that they were supposed to play on a different map it is completely the NASL's fault.
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On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze.
It's incredible, they keep on outdoing themselves.
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Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan.
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On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze.
It's not entirely NASL's fault.
Having organized tournaments cast from replays, I've seen things like this happen once or twice, and it's not impossible that the replay files just got mixed up.
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I don't think anyone here should be throwing around the word "fault". There was possibly a mixup of some kind, all we can do it wait for the appropriate people to investigate and clear it up, as I'm sure they will.
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On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan.
Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo?
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On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze.
And I thought that the NASTL was doing so well, even rejuvenating them... Hopefully Season 3 will be better. One can hope right?
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I don't really care who made the mistake or what really happened, I just want to see good games 
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On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan.
So what if Sheth won that? Wouldn't they have played an ace match then? So does this mean we know Sheth lost? Either way would like to see the correct game.
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I am just curious why both teams/players did not have to submit the replays. Every player/observer can save the replay. Or does NASL have admins observing the games? WTB transparency...
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On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo?
Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files?
It's not Xeris that makes these threads.
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On February 11 2012 12:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo? Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files? It's not Xeris that makes these threads.
Well, unless I wasn't really paying attention, but that last game between "Sheth" and Titan wasn't even on Bel'Shir Beach...
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On February 11 2012 12:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo? Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files? It's not Xeris that makes these threads.
The replay is Daybreak O_O
typo in the op
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On February 11 2012 12:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo? Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files? It's not Xeris that makes these threads.
Hey Virgil, this is off topic but you always seem like you are everywhere. Anytime there is even the smalled amount of drama, you come in, sniff it out, and lay a knowledge bomb. Do you ever close your internet browser?
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Uhm... So was it Sheth that was playing in that match or not?
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On February 11 2012 12:27 Quakie wrote:
Uhm... So was it Sheth that was playing in that match or not?
From what was said already. I'm going to say nope.
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On February 11 2012 12:27 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo? Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files? It's not Xeris that makes these threads. Hey Virgil, this is off topic but you always seem like you are everywhere. Anytime there is even the smalled amount of drama, you come in, sniff it out, and lay a knowledge bomb. Do you ever close your internet browser?
Everyone knows Virgil is a robot sheesh
Or a vampire
Or robot vampire hydralisk
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On February 11 2012 12:27 Quakie wrote:
Uhm... So was it Sheth that was playing in that match or not?
On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak
So the match we saw was 100% LiveZerg practicing with Titan.
We don't know the result of the actual game.
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On February 11 2012 12:21 VirgilSC2 wrote:It's not entirely NASL's fault. Having organized tournaments cast from replays, I've seen things like this happen once or twice, and it's not impossible that the replay files just got mixed up.
Maybe not, but it just seems that bad things always happen to nasl, while this stuff rarely happens to ipl tac. It's a pity, because I would love see them grow and do well.
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This could've gone unnoticed for some time I'm betting if not for Livezerg coming on TL to say that he thinks its the wrong replay. Props to him.
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Equally silly that no-one from team liquid noticed^^
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thought live zerg was sheth's smurf or something o.o
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On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze.
because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them
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Sucks for Sheth having his play represented by somebody other than himself.
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On February 11 2012 12:29 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:27 Quakie wrote:
Uhm... So was it Sheth that was playing in that match or not? Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:07 RoX.KIS.LiveZerg wrote:
i think its wrong replay >.< cuz its my pracc game at belshir but Sheth vs Titan was played on Daybreak So the match we saw was 100% LiveZerg practicing with Titan. We don't know the result of the actual game.
Surely since Titan sent in the rep, he won vs Sheth.
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat liquid lose to roxkiss wtfffffff
its okay liquid i still believe pwn some ipl
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On February 11 2012 12:38 ePLocust wrote:because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them
They have a long and glorious history of epic fails, it's just nice to see them carry on tradition is all.
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On February 11 2012 12:43 strongandbig wrote:
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat liquid lose to roxkiss wtfffffff
its okay liquid i still believe pwn some ipl
We don't really know the actual result of the Sheth vs Titan game. So until then, they neither lost or won.
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RoX's manager sent in the wrong replay.... I am waiting for him to come online to send the correct one.
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On February 11 2012 12:27 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Inhumane wrote:On February 11 2012 12:21 Xeris wrote:
Sheth was supposed to be on daybreak vs Titan. Why does the original post for this thread say Bel'Shir Beach then? Typo? Perhaps the person making the thread went from looking at the replay files? It's not Xeris that makes these threads. Hey Virgil, this is off topic but you always seem like you are everywhere. Anytime there is even the smalled amount of drama, you come in, sniff it out, and lay a knowledge bomb. Do you ever close your internet browser?
I do, but not very often.
I was actually just chilling out, but someone linked me the thread on Skype haha
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On February 11 2012 12:44 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:38 ePLocust wrote:On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze. because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them They have a long and glorious history of epic fails, it's just nice to see them carry on tradition is all.
because the players who sent the wrong replay have not fault in the matter what so ever. Right. Great community circle jerk
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On February 11 2012 12:47 ePLocust wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:44 nvs. wrote:On February 11 2012 12:38 ePLocust wrote:On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze. because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them They have a long and glorious history of epic fails, it's just nice to see them carry on tradition is all. because the players who sent the wrong replay have not fault in the matter what so ever. Right. Great community circle jerk
I'm not really putting "fault" on anybody. Just the fact that these things seem to happen to NASL on an ongoing basis is something worthy of mention. Put the "fault" on whoever you like sir.
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On February 11 2012 12:45 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:43 strongandbig wrote:
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat liquid lose to roxkiss wtfffffff
its okay liquid i still believe pwn some ipl We don't really know the actual result of the Sheth vs Titan game. So until then, they neither lost or won.
I think NASL would have an Ace-match replay if sheth won the game.
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3JlC4.png)
As you can see... the replay they sent me was titled 'Titan vs Sheth,' so there was clearly a misunderstanding here. I will hopefully get the *correct* replay in the morning when RoX wakes up?
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On February 11 2012 12:38 ePLocust wrote:because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them
It's all about perception unfortunately. NASL has had its share of messups, especially compared to their competition, that the brand has become damaged, and whenever something bad happens, the reputation acts as a magnet and draws the critiques. Is it fair? No, but that is how society works.
NASL could really use an Apple turnaround moment right now.
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On February 11 2012 12:48 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:45 Disengaged wrote:On February 11 2012 12:43 strongandbig wrote:
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat liquid lose to roxkiss wtfffffff
its okay liquid i still believe pwn some ipl We don't really know the actual result of the Sheth vs Titan game. So until then, they neither lost or won. I think NASL would have an Ace-match replay if sheth won the game.
Thats correct. Without the actual Sheth vs Titan game, Liquid wouldn't have lost or won until we know the result. If Sheth actually won his game then it would indeed go to an Ace match. If not, then ROX won.
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On February 11 2012 12:48 Xeris wrote:As you can see... the replay they sent me was titled 'Titan vs Sheth,' so there was clearly a misunderstanding here. I will hopefully get the *correct* replay in the morning when RoX wakes up?
Just curious why you're relying on the players/teams to send you replays? I'd imagine that you'd want to have an admin in the game to observe and ensure that the map is correct and such? Am I wrong in this thought?
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On February 11 2012 12:49 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:38 ePLocust wrote:On February 11 2012 12:18 R1CH wrote:
Oh NASL you never cease to amaze. because it has to be solely blamed on NASL right. The community loves to circle jerk against them It's all about perception unfortunately. NASL has had its share of messups, especially compared to their competition, that the brand has become damaged, and whenever something bad happens, the reputation acts as a magnet and draws the critiques. NASL could really use an Apple turnaround moment right now.
I used to be a huge NASL critic.
You can really tell Xeris and the crew are putting in a lot of effort to correct past problems with NASL, and I think that's very admirable.
The community, TeamLiquid staff included, clearly has something against NASL and it's really not helping them rebuild their image.
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On February 11 2012 12:51 vulhulla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:48 Xeris wrote:As you can see... the replay they sent me was titled 'Titan vs Sheth,' so there was clearly a misunderstanding here. I will hopefully get the *correct* replay in the morning when RoX wakes up? Just curious why you're relying on the players/teams to send you replays? I'd imagine that you'd want to have an admin in the game to observe and ensure that the map is correct and such? Am I wrong in this thought?
Because in order to make the league possible, we have a flexible scheduling system and teams play when it's convenient for them, which means that oftentimes games are played at different times on different days and on different servers (ya it would be easy if we enforced everyone playing only on NA server and at set times, but this is bad for teams). There's no physical way to have an admin present at all the games, because sometimes matches are played when I'm asleep, etc (I'm not a superhuman robot who can be awake 24 hours a day to watch over everything T_T).
In 3 seasons (GCPL 1, GCPL 2, now NASTL) I've literally never encountered this kind of a problem, or actually had any problems whatsoever. Teams have always been very good and prompt about doing things, and doing things right.
I think RoX just made a little mistake in renaming the replays, is all. And since we have server switching to promote fair play as much as possible, what we thought was that LiveZerg had lent his account to Sheth and they played on the EU server.
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In the future I'll know to double and triple check everything.
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Team manager submits wrongly labeled replay --> shit on NASL.
Stay classy TL.
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On February 11 2012 12:58 seiferoth10 wrote:
Team manager submits wrongly labeled replay --> shit on NASL.
Stay classy TL.
There's a difference between pointing out things like this happen to NASL a lot and straight up shitting on the organization.
Continue to exaggerate though.
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Everyone please relax... it was a simple mistake, and we'll make sure to get the correct replay in the morning and give you all the end of the match the proper way. Thanks for understanding.
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On February 11 2012 13:04 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 12:58 seiferoth10 wrote:
Team manager submits wrongly labeled replay --> shit on NASL.
Stay classy TL. There's a difference between pointing out things like this happen to NASL a lot and straight up shitting on the organization. Continue to exaggerate though.
No, I think people in this thread were "straight up shitting" on the NASL, before they realized that it wasn't really their fault, and even afterwards.
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On February 11 2012 13:07 Xeris wrote:
Everyone please relax... it was a simple mistake, and we'll make sure to get the correct replay in the morning and give you all the end of the match the proper way. Thanks for understanding.
Appreciate it. Keep working hard and I'm sure it will pay off soon.
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On February 11 2012 12:58 seiferoth10 wrote:
Team manager submits wrongly labeled replay --> shit on NASL.
Stay classy TL.
I am pretty sure that if any organization broadcast an incorrect replay there would be just as much outcry. Today, it just happens to be the NASL.
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On February 11 2012 13:07 Xeris wrote:
Everyone please relax... it was a simple mistake, and we'll make sure to get the correct replay in the morning and give you all the end of the match the proper way. Thanks for understanding.
I'm sure if you explain what happened and show the right replays during the next broadcast people will understand
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Hey! We found out today (unfortunately, too late) from LiveZerg that we actually had received an incorrect replay: Titan vs Sheth. The RoX manager accidentally sent the incorrect replay, and it was our fault for not double checking this! We will make sure to get the correct replay as soon as possible, and cast the rest of the match for you all! Thanks for understanding, and we apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
Sorry for this folks, we'll fix it up asaply
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what? i missed the matchs come to the thread saw the results and went (0_0 noooooo liqqqquuuuiiddddd)
went to go and look at the posts in the thread about how the games went...and now i reading about how the broadcasted replay of sheths game isnt the right one....sooo did Liquid lose? really hoping for a full rebroadcast with an ace match that liquid wins (gooooo Liquid)
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On February 11 2012 13:20 Shock710 wrote:
what? i missed the matchs come to the thread saw the results and went (0_0 noooooo liqqqquuuuiiddddd)
went to go and look at the posts in the thread about how the games went...and now i reading about how the broadcasted replay of sheths game isnt the right one....sooo did Liquid lose? really hoping for a full rebroadcast with an ace match that liquid wins (gooooo Liquid)
Usually the winning team sends the replays so it is very likely Liquid still lost.
Sorry =(
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On February 11 2012 13:20 Shock710 wrote:
what? i missed the matchs come to the thread saw the results and went (0_0 noooooo liqqqquuuuiiddddd)
went to go and look at the posts in the thread about how the games went...and now i reading about how the broadcasted replay of sheths game isnt the right one....sooo did Liquid lose? really hoping for a full rebroadcast with an ace match that liquid wins (gooooo Liquid)
or you could read 10 posts above yours and find out for yourself that we don't know if Liquid lost. that said if there were no ace match replays sent it's pretty safe to assume that Titan won anyway
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I'm glad this is being fixed but I still stand by my comment. With this much competition in terms of streams and leagues you can't afford to be making silly mistakes like this. Did no one test the replay prior to the cast? What if it was corrupt for example, the show would just be over? Did no one who opened it notice that it said Titan vs LiveZerg and was on the wrong map?
Coupled with the horrible re-scheduling incident last week that forced multiple barcrafts to cancel events and caused one of their most anticipated matches to clash with the Superbowl, I don't have much faith in NASL any more. Just when I think things can't go much further wrong, they do.
Note that this is my personal opinion and is not an official TL position.
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Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
EDIT: Apparently there are some errors that need to be resolved.
I will take back my NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! comment for the time being
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Incompetence in nasl, and yet people are still surprised!
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A lot of you are over reacting.
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On February 10 2012 23:58 Hulavuta wrote:
I think Jinro might lose his match, TvZ isn't really his best matchup, as he's said himself.
Otherwise, I predict Liquid winning. Ret's ZvZ looked beastly at IEM, and Sheth has always been a great ZvP player.
And HerO just always wins, so...
hi
^^
So, did sheth win?
edit: Read the last few pages, that sucks.
I hope the replay is sufficiently epic to have been worth the wait.
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Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL :
http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5k
That's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though.
Match Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
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Xeris. you couldn't show the IdrA vs Leenock match as the replay was "corrupted"
that's two games this series you haven't shown as no admin was in the game.
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
what in the world?! ~.~ hope this gets sorted out asap. GL everyone!
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
Weird.
Hm... I'll check out the replay.
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Well, shit happens. For a change of pace, a bit of positivity: Love the decision to go live, everything else is second rate.
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
yeahyeahyeah sheth!!!!!
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So was the actual end result of the match different or did Liquid still lose?
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On February 11 2012 14:22 MrSexington wrote:Weird. Hm... I'll check out the replay.
Same!
Will check it out! Thanks
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On February 11 2012 14:26 Ender2701 wrote:
So was the actual end result of the match different or did Liquid still lose?
+ Show Spoiler +the score is 2-2 with ace games unknown
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
Love you Sheth <3 big fan
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NASL making a HUGE mistake :\ sorry Sheth for your misrepresentation
Don't exactly know how NASL could make this mistake when the persons name was on both the title and the game....sad...not very professional :\
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Ok, well now this is completely not NASL's fault...
+ Show Spoiler +RoX.KiS was fully aware there was an ace match but still sent in that replay...
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+ Show Spoiler +Wow, I was going to brush it off as a simple mistake, mostly on Rox's part, but how could NASL not know there was an ace match played or not even know what the official score was. That is really quite bad. Broadcasting the wrong game, reporting the wrong score, and not broadcasting the full match or even knowing that they're not broadcasting the full match...wtf.
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I'm assuming the games are casted without caster knowledge of the result (so as to not really spoil the result) and I don't think they have any idea either.
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On February 11 2012 14:59 opterown wrote:
I'm assuming the games are casted without caster knowledge of the result (so as to not really spoil the result) and I don't think they have any idea either.
+ Show Spoiler +But the person in charge or the person that gathers the replays should know the the results even if the casters don't. I could understand a mistake happening (like thinking Sheth played on LiveZerg's EU account because of mislabeled replay) if the results happened to coincide, but the results did not coincide so I really don't understand how this mistake could happen.
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Ok now it's just getting loopy. + Show Spoiler +how do RoX not send all the matches in?
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+ Show Spoiler +Here comes the ace match baby! Honestly, though, I am surprised Jinro was able to beat Slivko... I have guessed wrong on every match so far. Except Sheth vs Titan
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Really some unexpected results ...
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
Er wait, are you sure you're allowed to do this? I know NASL fucked up, but if they still intend to broadcast the game later, then why are you revealing the result now?
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On February 11 2012 15:32 lbmaian wrote:Er wait, are you sure you're allowed to do this? I know NASL fucked up, but if they still intend to broadcast the game later, then why are you revealing the result now?
I'm not sure why both teams wouldn't send in all of the replays just to verify the results from both parties in the first place. If there are no admin present in some of the games, I feel like this would be a good way to know for 100% that those are the correct games that were played.
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Well... I feel less bad now that I missed the first broadcast and won't be able to catch the rebroadcast either... >_<
NASL must be seriously understaffed if they can't get an admin to be in every game....
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Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense.
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On February 11 2012 14:53 HuKPOWA wrote:
NASL making a HUGE mistake :\ sorry Sheth for your misrepresentation
Don't exactly know how NASL could make this mistake when the persons name was on both the title and the game....sad...not very professional :\
Did you even read what happened?
That was the replay NASL had, clearly named Sheth vs Titan.
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On February 11 2012 14:53 HuKPOWA wrote:
NASL making a HUGE mistake :\ sorry Sheth for your misrepresentation
Don't exactly know how NASL could make this mistake when the persons name was on both the title and the game....sad...not very professional :\
also considering Sheth is a NA-based player and Titan is a EU-based player, presumably one of them would be borrowing an account.
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On February 11 2012 16:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:53 HuKPOWA wrote:
NASL making a HUGE mistake :\ sorry Sheth for your misrepresentation
Don't exactly know how NASL could make this mistake when the persons name was on both the title and the game....sad...not very professional :\ Did you even read what happened? That was the replay NASL had, clearly named Sheth vs Titan.
But they should have had more replays and realised something was strange.
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It's 2-1, and there is Sheth and maybe Ace match to come.... -_-
+ Show Spoiler +and Sheth won, therefore Ace match still to be broadcasted. Read the thread.
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On February 11 2012 13:23 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:20 Shock710 wrote:
what? i missed the matchs come to the thread saw the results and went (0_0 noooooo liqqqquuuuiiddddd)
went to go and look at the posts in the thread about how the games went...and now i reading about how the broadcasted replay of sheths game isnt the right one....sooo did Liquid lose? really hoping for a full rebroadcast with an ace match that liquid wins (gooooo Liquid) Usually the winning team sends the replays so it is very likely Liquid still lost. Sorry =(
Looks like my hoping worked out after all, also if i watch the EU broadcast will i get to watch the whole thing or is it just the NA broadcast repeating. (but will they broadcast the NA one casue it kinda stuffed up) hoping to see the final match on the EU broadcast
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On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense.
That must be it! And noone would even notice it! .... Come on, do you really think that?
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On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense.
I HOPE that is NOT the case, that would be horrible and ruin the RoX reputation (they are awesome guys i mean they have bratOK for god sakes) PLz stop thinking this T_T
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On February 11 2012 16:24 BathTubNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 16:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 11 2012 14:53 HuKPOWA wrote:
NASL making a HUGE mistake :\ sorry Sheth for your misrepresentation
Don't exactly know how NASL could make this mistake when the persons name was on both the title and the game....sad...not very professional :\ Did you even read what happened? That was the replay NASL had, clearly named Sheth vs Titan. But they should have had more replays and realised something was strange.
But they don't. They are investigating it so stop with these pointless conspiracy theorycrafting
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On February 11 2012 16:43 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:23 nvs. wrote:On February 11 2012 13:20 Shock710 wrote:
what? i missed the matchs come to the thread saw the results and went (0_0 noooooo liqqqquuuuiiddddd)
went to go and look at the posts in the thread about how the games went...and now i reading about how the broadcasted replay of sheths game isnt the right one....sooo did Liquid lose? really hoping for a full rebroadcast with an ace match that liquid wins (gooooo Liquid) Usually the winning team sends the replays so it is very likely Liquid still lost. Sorry =( Looks like my hoping worked out after all, also if i watch the EU broadcast will i get to watch the whole thing or is it just the NA broadcast repeating. (but will they broadcast the NA one casue it kinda stuffed up) hoping to see the final match on the EU broadcast
We likely won't see the actual games until the next set of games
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On February 11 2012 16:46 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense. I HOPE that is NOT the case, that would be horrible and ruin the RoX reputation (they are awesome guys i mean they have bratOK for god sakes) PLz stop thinking this T_T
Nope. He's on imbaFXO.
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On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense.
Yeah, the only way you can explain this is as an arcane plot by RoX to fool the NASL and everyone else... except it was their player that said it was the wrong replay.
Also, what do you think Liquid would've said when they saw the results? Obviously someone made a mistake and then NASL, due to some degree of incompetence, both aired and casted the wrong game, featuring the wrong players on the wrong map.
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don't know what to make of this all i am going to go to sleep and hope that it's all revealed in the morninng. I can understand the mistake on nasl's part. it's harder to understand how rok kis could of made it particulary since there was apparently an ace match played. and frankly if rok kis some how didn't win then i find this very fishy and don;t know how i'd be able to trust that rok kis made an honest mistake.
lets just hope for every ones sake that nothing dirty happened and this was all a miscommunication between the players and the team management or who ever sent in those replays.
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I am so confused with the results right now...Obviously the replays got named wrong somewhere and things got mixed up?
+ Show Spoiler +wait, so right now it's 2-2 with an ace match left?
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On February 11 2012 16:51 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 16:46 Shock710 wrote:On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense. I HOPE that is NOT the case, that would be horrible and ruin the RoX reputation (they are awesome guys i mean they have bratOK for god sakes) PLz stop thinking this T_T Nope. He's on imbaFXO.
T_T i feel dumb......still they are awesome
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On February 11 2012 16:45 acidbean wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense. That must be it! And noone would even notice it! .... Come on, do you really think that?
haha, for a moment I also thought this sounds very controversial. Clearly the manager sending in the replays must have known about the ace match and the actual result of the game.
But there is honestly no way this was done on purpose, noone in their right mind would think this would go unnoticed. Especially when it's one of your own players noticing it 
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On February 11 2012 16:45 acidbean wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense. That must be it! And noone would even notice it! .... Come on, do you really think that?
No, I don't. It is a bizarre situation though, and we don't know all the facts. NASL should have an admin in each game and then we don't have this problem, what can I say ^^
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Are you serious? Just tell me the damn score, I don't give a shit about the replay and casted games. -_-
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Im very sorry for this mistake -..- Titan send me a wrong replay and i dont check it before rename =\\ My bad >__<
I send to Xeris 2nd time missed replays.
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On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense.
Lol, that's a ridicilous claim. No team would ever do that in a big league, as there is no way in hell the other team wouldn't simply report it and they'll be ridiciloud and probably have to disband.
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I just think its funny noone thought about checking the replay before it was casted
Not the player sending it to manager
Not the manager forwarding it to NASL
Not the NASL forwarding it to the caster
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On February 11 2012 17:56 bennyaus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 16:45 acidbean wrote:On February 11 2012 15:59 bennyaus wrote:
Maybe RoX was trying to win the matchup by sending in false replay... I mean how else can you explain the fact they didn't send the Ace replays...? It makes no sense. That must be it! And noone would even notice it! .... Come on, do you really think that? No, I don't. It is a bizarre situation though, and we don't know all the facts. NASL should have an admin in each game and then we don't have this problem, what can I say ^^
Due to demand they changed things so that teams can be flexible about when they play, for the team's sakes. Because of this they can't always have an admin online in the games. But as the OP says, they're going live soon.
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I bought last season pass for NASL but I was pretty disappointed when compared to other leagues and have put my money into GSL this year and have been pleased with the entertainment though the VOD quality is poor compared to other streams the entertainment of the games/casting make it worthwhile.
I still watch the odd NASL VOD/stream as its free with good HD quality but the commentary is a little lacklustre and by and large so are the games. I want Gretorp and co to succeed as they clearly try so hard but with MLG/IPL and GSL all putting out so much wonderful content (Nestea v DRG in GSL this week and Nestea v Protoss in MLG Korea Qualifier were all insane matches plus IPL team league!) there isnt time in my day for NASL too
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oh nasl ...
how can that even happen?
hope rox.kis won
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+ Show Spoiler +Well, if there was an ace-match. Were the replays not sent? Or did NASL simply ignore them, because it was 3-1 already?
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On February 11 2012 15:39 DomiNater wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 15:32 lbmaian wrote:On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
Er wait, are you sure you're allowed to do this? I know NASL fucked up, but if they still intend to broadcast the game later, then why are you revealing the result now? I'm not sure why both teams wouldn't send in all of the replays just to verify the results from both parties in the first place. If there are no admin present in some of the games, I feel like this would be a good way to know for 100% that those are the correct games that were played.
Just to be clear. I did send in all the replays and I did also send in the right replays. They just chose not to use it/look at it and use the ones from RoXKiS, I assume.
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So who won the ace match then? Disappointed Liquid did not win this early.
And NAS(T)L really need to doublecheck replays in advance.
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On February 11 2012 22:11 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 15:39 DomiNater wrote:On February 11 2012 15:32 lbmaian wrote:On February 11 2012 14:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Well... for those of you who want to spoil yourself and not wait for NASL : http://www.mediafire.com/?avygo4n1d59jx5kThat's the replay. It's sad to be represented wrongly, but I realize mistakes happen. I don't know how this happened though. Match Spoiler + Show Spoiler +
As I won the match, and there are ace games.
Er wait, are you sure you're allowed to do this? I know NASL fucked up, but if they still intend to broadcast the game later, then why are you revealing the result now? I'm not sure why both teams wouldn't send in all of the replays just to verify the results from both parties in the first place. If there are no admin present in some of the games, I feel like this would be a good way to know for 100% that those are the correct games that were played. Just to be clear. I did send in all the replays and I did also send in the right replays. They just chose not to use it/look at it and use the ones from RoXKiS, I assume.
Isn't it a policy to send replays for all matches, even when 3-0, so not to spoil it for the casters?
And they should at least compare file size between both team's replays, so you know they are the same.
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Should probably change the "results" in the OP.
Also just tell us the result of the ace match in a spoiler, this is just painful.
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Well, I wake up to see Sheth has dropped knowledge bombs overnight. I guess I have some waiting to do still....
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So ...
I guess this isn't going to be fixed for the upcoming EU broadcast? I'd really like to know how the clanwar turned out
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damn, nice win by jinro considering sliv's showing in iem
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On February 12 2012 00:54 -_- wrote:
damn, nice win by jinro considering sliv's showing in iem
yep, i agree. nice showing by jinro, but we knew before that his TvZ is quite good. its just TvP... :D
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For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience.
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If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken...
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On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Spoiler the results please. It's completely unfair to withhold the results of an event that's already completed just because of broadcasting issues, let alone withhold it indefinitely until a "later announced date".
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Bumblebee clearly said that he also sent in replays(The correct ones).
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On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience.
"A later announced date?"
Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time.
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On February 12 2012 01:03 Zode wrote:
Bumblebee clearly said that he also sent in replays(The correct ones).
He did not, but I received them today so we'll take care of it as quickly as possible
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On February 12 2012 01:17 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience. "A later announced date?" Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time.
What do you wish they do? Snap a finger and the replay appear? They have to work with a global organization that doesn't run on the same hours that they do, things might take a little bit.
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On February 12 2012 01:55 TheAldo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:17 nvs. wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience. "A later announced date?" Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time. What do you wish they do? Snap a finger and the replay appear? They have to work with a global organization that doesn't run on the same hours that they do, things might take a little bit.
Sure, but a little more information beyond such a vague non-committal statement might be a little more helpful. What is a later announced date? Tomorrow? Next week? What was the REAL result of the match?
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On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Spoil the results please for the ones who really want to know.
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On February 12 2012 01:17 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience. "A later announced date?" Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time.
You must be new here, do you remember NASL season 1 lol. This is what we have come to expect from our all powerful SC2 "companies".
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man the wait is agonizing. if you guys could spoiler the entire results that would be awesome!!!
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On February 12 2012 01:55 TheAldo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:17 nvs. wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience. "A later announced date?" Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time. What do you wish they do? Snap a finger and the replay appear? They have to work with a global organization that doesn't run on the same hours that they do, things might take a little bit.
Just spoiler the results, that doesn't take any effort at all. -_-
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On February 12 2012 01:57 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:55 TheAldo wrote:On February 12 2012 01:17 nvs. wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 NASL.tv wrote:
For the EU Rebroadcast today we're only going to be showing the first 3 games due to not being able to have time to cast the rest of the match. We will broadcast the rest of the match at a later announced date. Sorry for any inconvenience. "A later announced date?" Doesn't sound like you guys are trying all that hard to amend this error. One would think a professional company would do everything within its power to quickly appease the situation and move forward, not let it linger around until an undisclosed time. What do you wish they do? Snap a finger and the replay appear? They have to work with a global organization that doesn't run on the same hours that they do, things might take a little bit. Sure, but a little more information beyond such a vague non-committal statement might be a little more helpful. What is a later announced date? Tomorrow? Next week? What was the REAL result of the match?
As soon as we work it into our schedule, we will post the exact information!
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i want the results spoiled too come on nasl just tell us what happened. you don;t really think any ones going to watch the recast of the games do you?
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I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us.
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On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us.
poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today...
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On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today...
The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible.
I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
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On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken...
is this true then? so RoX won the ace match?
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Should spoiler results anyway and make it clear that they are the complete results of the match that has not been broadcasted with a nice big red font. If people are still inadvertently spoiled, it's their own fault.
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Fair points for sure! But I think releasing the results will not be spoiling anything. People who are tuning in can all see the huge-ass red font on the top of the page and find out what happened. Besides, with normal EU broadcasts, they already know the results from the NA LR threads or liquipedia
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On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match?
Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX.
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On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX.
No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
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I feel like a lot of people here don't know how to run a business, or think that NASL has infinite resources when they do not. Roxkis sent the wrong replay, and since there isn't a precadence for errors of this kind in the history of SC2 (at least that I know of) there is no reason for Xeris to check. Obviously, it's now clear that there is a reason to check the authenticity of the replay and doublecheck the results from both sides. If this were to happen again then I would be angry at the NASTL, but right now it's stupid to be angry at them when an identical error could have occured in the IPL/KSL.
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On February 12 2012 02:55 McFeser wrote:
I feel like a lot of people here don't know how to run a business, or think that NASL has infinite resources when they do not. Roxkis sent the wrong replay, and since there isn't a precadence for errors of this kind in the history of SC2 (at least that I know of) there is no reason for Xeris to check. Obviously, it's now clear that there is a reason to check the authenticity of the replay and doublecheck the results from both sides. If this were to happen again then I would be angry at the NASTL, but right now it's stupid to be angry at them when an identical error could have occured in the IPL/KSL.
Haha, when the casters can actually SEE the names of the players, they should have known right away....
Really no excuse for this...could have been caught through the whole recording/broadcasting phase...
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
Well that is interesting, then....
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
I don't doubt he sent them, just probably to the wrong address.
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On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us.
oh course it he is every business ever created spends most of it's time ignoring customers while pretending like they aren't thats life. the fact is most customers have absolutell terrible ideas that either a. cost too much to actually do or b.
in this case would prevent them from getting money they deserve by robbing them of viewers of the recasted games or c. something else.
if you think theirs a business that doesn't do it your deluding yourself it's how the world works.
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k just tell us who won. it's getting ridiculous
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
Uh oh. The plot thickens...
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Lol what? The match has been played, post the damn results, what are you "spoiling", the match that has been played and broadcast? Makes no sense apart from playing up to the NASL stereotype - shambles.
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On February 12 2012 03:50 Full.tilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently. Lol what? The match has been played, post the damn results, what are you "spoiling", the match that has been played and broadcast? Makes no sense apart from playing up to the NASL stereotype - shambles.
haha pretty harsh way of putting it but pretty much. you won't be spoiling anyone. i honestly think you guys have something to "fix" or you can just disclose the info right away. i mean, you could msg any one of the TL players or even some admins who would know the results.
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On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken...
If this is true, I'm super sad. T_T
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Yeah, I'm pretty tired of having to check for the results constantly. + Show Spoiler +
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Well, it's just a week of big brain farts, I guess. I posted the link to our replays in the wrong Skype convo, lol~ sorry guys.
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Wow, this is a very silly situation. Why isn't there any sort of quality assurance that goes into checking these replays? There are so many ways this could have been prevented. Maybe next time you can do the following steps?
1) Make sure both managers sent in the replays.
2) Compare the number of replays from both managers.
3) Check to make sure the replays aren't corrupted.
4) While making sure the replays work check that the players are the right players (if someone is playing on a different account then they should mention this when they sent the replays) and they're on the right map.
I'm sure there are other quality assurance things you can do. This takes like 15 mins. You don't even have to watch the entire replay.
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On February 12 2012 06:59 Bumblebee wrote:
Well, it's just a week of big brain farts, I guess. I posted the link to our replays in the wrong Skype convo, lol~ sorry guys.
Ok, this situation has just gotten humorous. Everybody screwing up haha.
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On February 12 2012 07:14 garbanzo wrote:
Wow, this is a very silly situation. Why isn't there any sort of quality assurance that goes into checking these replays? There are so many ways this could have been prevented. Maybe next time you can do the following steps?
1) Make sure both managers sent in the replays.
2) Compare the number of replays from both managers.
3) Check to make sure the replays aren't corrupted.
4) While making sure the replays work check that the players are the right players (if someone is playing on a different account then they should mention this when they sent the replays) and they're on the right map.
I'm sure there are other quality assurance things you can do. This takes like 15 mins. You don't even have to watch the entire replay.
but what they should do right now is just tell us who friggin won
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On February 12 2012 06:59 Bumblebee wrote:
Well, it's just a week of big brain farts, I guess. I posted the link to our replays in the wrong Skype convo, lol~ sorry guys.
People should see it is not a screw up by NASL.
It is, actually, a series of small mistakes by a lot of people that pilled up.
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anyone know who is the winner? do we have to wait for the result until the release of the correct reply
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Updated OP with Results if you wanted to know.
Update (For those of you wanting to know the results before the games are broadcasted):
+ Show Spoiler [RESULTS OF THE MATCH HERE] +
If you don't want to spoil the results, DO NOT SCROLL DOWN
For those interested in knowing the results of the match, they are as follows:
Sheth > Titan in game 4, making the score 2-2.
Titan > Ret 2-1 in the ACE match.
RoX defeats Liquid with a 3-2 score, giving RoX its first win, and Liquid its first loss.
PLEASE do not spoil this for those who do not want to be spoiled.
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The op has been updated with the match results for those who want to see it (at the very top). For those who don't, please do not click it!
For those who do, please do not spoil the results in here. Further, we will decide tomorrow when we will finish casting the match, and we will air it next week. Thanks all for your patience!
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i for one am just really glad to know the results and i won't spoil it for any one you have my word.
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@_@ Man...
+ Show Spoiler +I guessed the result because of them saying them saying which manager sent the replays in.... Made me kinda sad. GG to RoX.KiS.
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+ Show Spoiler +Quite a surprising result. Kinda sad to see Liquid's first loss in the Year of Liquid.
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+ Show Spoiler +yes! so glad liquid lost this!
although im amazed hero lost to livezerg 0_o
gz to roxkis :D
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On February 13 2012 05:07 ThatGuy89 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +yes! so glad liquid lost this!
although im amazed hero lost to livezerg 0_o
gz to roxkis :D
+ Show Spoiler +why would you be glad for a team to lose, and not glad for the team that won? lol.
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