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On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us.  poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today...
The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible.
I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
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On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken...
is this true then? so RoX won the ace match?
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Should spoiler results anyway and make it clear that they are the complete results of the match that has not been broadcasted with a nice big red font. If people are still inadvertently spoiled, it's their own fault.
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Fair points for sure! But I think releasing the results will not be spoiling anything. People who are tuning in can all see the huge-ass red font on the top of the page and find out what happened. Besides, with normal EU broadcasts, they already know the results from the NA LR threads or liquipedia
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On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match?
Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX.
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On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX.
No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
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I feel like a lot of people here don't know how to run a business, or think that NASL has infinite resources when they do not. Roxkis sent the wrong replay, and since there isn't a precadence for errors of this kind in the history of SC2 (at least that I know of) there is no reason for Xeris to check. Obviously, it's now clear that there is a reason to check the authenticity of the replay and doublecheck the results from both sides. If this were to happen again then I would be angry at the NASTL, but right now it's stupid to be angry at them when an identical error could have occured in the IPL/KSL.
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On February 12 2012 02:55 McFeser wrote:
I feel like a lot of people here don't know how to run a business, or think that NASL has infinite resources when they do not. Roxkis sent the wrong replay, and since there isn't a precadence for errors of this kind in the history of SC2 (at least that I know of) there is no reason for Xeris to check. Obviously, it's now clear that there is a reason to check the authenticity of the replay and doublecheck the results from both sides. If this were to happen again then I would be angry at the NASTL, but right now it's stupid to be angry at them when an identical error could have occured in the IPL/KSL.
Haha, when the casters can actually SEE the names of the players, they should have known right away....
Really no excuse for this...could have been caught through the whole recording/broadcasting phase...
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
Well that is interesting, then....
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
I don't doubt he sent them, just probably to the wrong address.
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On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us.
oh course it he is every business ever created spends most of it's time ignoring customers while pretending like they aren't thats life. the fact is most customers have absolutell terrible ideas that either a. cost too much to actually do or b.
in this case would prevent them from getting money they deserve by robbing them of viewers of the recasted games or c. something else.
if you think theirs a business that doesn't do it your deluding yourself it's how the world works.
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k just tell us who won. it's getting ridiculous
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On February 12 2012 02:54 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:50 Stegosaurus wrote:On February 12 2012 02:48 ninjamyst wrote:On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken... is this true then? so RoX won the ace match? Both teams sent replays, but NASL used the ones from RoX. No, Liquid did not send in the replays. Not sure why Bumblebee said that.
Uh oh. The plot thickens...
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On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently.
Lol what? The match has been played, post the damn results, what are you "spoiling", the match that has been played and broadcast? Makes no sense apart from playing up to the NASL stereotype - shambles.
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On February 12 2012 03:50 Full.tilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:45 Xeris wrote:On February 12 2012 02:39 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On February 12 2012 02:20 Talin wrote:I feel like Xeris is purposefully ignoring us. poor man, getting flamed so much. but still, you guys can totally just broadcast live the series today for EU including ALL games. thinking on your feet and doing the best you can to accommodate people's expectations. unless you don't have the replays, i really can't think of anything positive from simply broadcasting 2 games today... The big problem with it is that we're doing the NASL Qualifier today, so we can't. We unfortunately don't have enough staff, studio space, etc to cast live 2 things at once. We'll figure out what works and announce when we'll cast the rest of the games as soon as possible. I don't want to post spoilers of the match because it might spoil the results for people inadvertently. Lol what? The match has been played, post the damn results, what are you "spoiling", the match that has been played and broadcast? Makes no sense apart from playing up to the NASL stereotype - shambles.
haha pretty harsh way of putting it but pretty much. you won't be spoiling anyone. i honestly think you guys have something to "fix" or you can just disclose the info right away. i mean, you could msg any one of the TL players or even some admins who would know the results.
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On February 12 2012 01:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
If the RoX.KiS manager sent the replays that means they won right? Winning team usually sends the replays if I'm not mistaken...
If this is true, I'm super sad. T_T
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Yeah, I'm pretty tired of having to check for the results constantly. + Show Spoiler +
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Well, it's just a week of big brain farts, I guess. I posted the link to our replays in the wrong Skype convo, lol~ sorry guys.
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Wow, this is a very silly situation. Why isn't there any sort of quality assurance that goes into checking these replays? There are so many ways this could have been prevented. Maybe next time you can do the following steps?
1) Make sure both managers sent in the replays.
2) Compare the number of replays from both managers.
3) Check to make sure the replays aren't corrupted.
4) While making sure the replays work check that the players are the right players (if someone is playing on a different account then they should mention this when they sent the replays) and they're on the right map.
I'm sure there are other quality assurance things you can do. This takes like 15 mins. You don't even have to watch the entire replay.
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On February 12 2012 06:59 Bumblebee wrote:
Well, it's just a week of big brain farts, I guess. I posted the link to our replays in the wrong Skype convo, lol~ sorry guys.
Ok, this situation has just gotten humorous. Everybody screwing up haha.
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