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[NASL] Sunday Showdown - IdrA vs Alive - Page 32

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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#621
I wonder if tourneys will ever start striking agreements with players that require the players not to throw any games if they want to get paid for their appearances
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WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
February 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#622
wth that last comment by fenix? D
Barackopala
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
February 13 2012 04:47 GMT
#623
On February 13 2012 13:44 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:41 Jibba wrote:
I actually wish NASL had decided to cancel the show match and find 2 other players instead, and issue a statement as to why it wasn't worth showing.

yeah, this is a great idea. if the games were pre-played there is really no excuse for putting the fans through this...we could have done with a 2-minute explanation instead of having to watch lings die outside a Terran wall. the casters did a great job of making this seem like a "real" series but it just wasn't


if they did this, pretty sure the pitchforks would rise again.

the results for this showmatch were leaked along with the build orders. did NASL oversee the matches or did they just have the players play on their own time and send in the replay. even MLG had the same issue with their winter arena...i'm sure all the leagues are aware by now the need for cloaked maps.
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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#624
On February 13 2012 13:41 durza wrote:
Im starting to hope idra just retires, it doesn't seem like he has enough respect for the game or for his peers to be successful at the level he thinks he should be. This is simply sad.


He's said previously that before he left Korea last time that he had an email written to EG management to let them know that he was quitting SC... his mental state, as far can be judged from seeing him play recently, seems frighteningly similar to what we were seeing before he left. Makes one wonder if being back in Korea is making those thoughts come back.

I just wish he'd do what he wants to do, go to college if thats it, or be a serious pro gamer if thats what he wants to do. But I can't stand to watch someone spend their life doing something while at the same time talking shit about how that thing is worthless "SC2 is a terrible game" etc. . If money is your only goal, you're not going to have any joy in it, and you're not going to do well against those that do.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#625
On February 13 2012 13:46 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:45 Garth wrote:
did Idra 6 pool 3 games after he dies to cheese? can someone fill me in I didn't watch

yep can someone explain please? didnt watch


First game was 11/11 rax
Second was double reactored hellion's
third he six pooled
fourth he six pooled
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#626
That is the last time I sacrifice sleep on a school night for Idra.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#627
haha, doesn't NASL rebroadcast most of their stuff for Europe? Well I guess they can loop the feed for this showmatch about 20 times in the normal time allotted since it was so frigging short.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#628
The guy is so mentally fragile. And to throw those matches for a showmatch is embarassing. I don`t know why I keep defending him but definitely not anymore, he never grows up.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#629
I honestly think the first 6-pool was a valid strat from what I've heard of the first two games, which were aparently both proxy 11/11. IN THEORY I do believe 6-pool counters that, and also it's good to throw a cheese once in a while. Second time was obviously just him throwing the game however.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#630
On February 13 2012 13:45 Adebisi wrote:
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On February 13 2012 13:44 Schmoooopy wrote:
Gained some respect for Alive during this showmatch, at least. His defense in game 3 was cool and the "you sixpoll?" made me laugh. Other than that, though, I feel bad for NASL and for Alive for having to deal with this crap.

I don't think aLive will mind.

I feel for NASL though.

Right, forgot the part where aLive won $400 for defending against 2 six pools.

Exactly. They can't seem to catch a break here.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
February 13 2012 04:48 GMT
#631
On February 13 2012 13:48 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:46 dmnum wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:45 Garth wrote:
did Idra 6 pool 3 games after he dies to cheese? can someone fill me in I didn't watch

yep can someone explain please? didnt watch


First game was 11/11 rax
Second was double reactored hellion's
third he six pooled
fourth he six pooled

thanks man
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
February 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#632
Well, guess the projection of IdrA getting rolled was fairly accurate.
SwampyNZ
Profile Joined September 2011
New Zealand47 Posts
February 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#633
And now we see why Total biscuit wants nothing to do with him in shoutcraft invitational.
Sad sad sad.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3040 Posts
February 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#634
On February 13 2012 13:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'd lose all respect for NASL if they just sat and took this as a professional organization who paid these players to show up and show good games. It's a god damn show match, you don't just show up and lose as fast as possible so you can collect your money and leave.


they assume the responsbilities of the players they invite. as if idra should be punished for accepting an invitation to a showmatch and choosing to play the way he wants. We're all disappointed we didn't see better games, but it's not idra's fault. people should root for other people, if they don't like the guy.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 04:51:44
February 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#635
On February 13 2012 13:47 JWD wrote:
I wonder if tourneys will ever start striking agreements with players that require the players not to throw any games if they want to get paid for their appearances

TBH this was disgraceful, but I think this is something teams need to punish, not the leagues. Leagues know approximately how likely a player is to pull this shit.

Anyway while it may seem unfair that Idra even gets $100 for this I suspect his netprofit is negative if you factor in his future contract negotiations and sponsorship deals. Idra's worth is plummeting very fast at the moment.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
February 13 2012 04:49 GMT
#636
On February 13 2012 13:48 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:48 Jisall wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:46 dmnum wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:45 Garth wrote:
did Idra 6 pool 3 games after he dies to cheese? can someone fill me in I didn't watch

yep can someone explain please? didnt watch


First game was 11/11 rax
Second was double reactored hellion's
third he six pooled
fourth he six pooled

thanks man


Np if you play terran game three is actually worth checking out to see how alive countered the 6-pool. Otherwise the series was lackluster
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
WolfBro
Profile Joined December 2011
United States59 Posts
February 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#637
I thought the match was pretty unprofessional. When the whole point of this match was to entertain the fans and each game mattered to quadruple your winnings there really isn't any excuse for how it ended. People say that Greg is a really nice guy IRL and that's probably true but tonight just was another clear example of why I have no respect for that guy.

WP aLive!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 04:51:26
February 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#638
On February 13 2012 13:46 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 13:44 JWD wrote:
On February 13 2012 13:41 Jibba wrote:
I actually wish NASL had decided to cancel the show match and find 2 other players instead, and issue a statement as to why it wasn't worth showing.

yeah, this is a great idea. if the games were pre-played there is really no excuse for putting the fans through this...we could have done with a 2-minute explanation instead of having to watch lings die outside a Terran wall. NASL seems to be pretending this was a "real series?

Are you blaming NASL because IdrA had a hissy fit? They announce the showmatch beforehand, how is it even slightly professional to start a broadcast with "oh, well IdrA vs aLive was shitty so we're going to show something else instead".

I swear to god NASL get accused of stuff that doesn't even come close to rational thought so often.

You make a forum post earlier in the day that says
Today's IdrA vs. aLive show match has been cancelled. The reason being that IdrA did not put forth a reasonable effort and the games are not enjoyable for anyone. Instead, we will be showing you a live match between aLive and Sheth!


It's not really a blame issue. It's just something that they could've done a bit better, with some quick thinking. Not really a major knock against NASL.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#639
On February 13 2012 13:49 RogerChillingworth wrote:
We're all disappointed we didn't see better games, but it's not idra's fault.

I think this is probably the best comment I've read on TL.net in a long time
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#640
Slayers Boxer needs to give Idra a serious pep talk about spirit.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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