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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 07 2012 11:24 GMT
#1081
LOL Wolf!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
February 07 2012 11:24 GMT
#1082
zerg in this gsl is now 26:41 combined vs t and p (38%), dont worry, will go down further today

User was warned for this post
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
February 07 2012 11:25 GMT
#1083
On February 07 2012 20:24 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:23 kappadevin wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


You can't outplay your opponent and lose. I really wish people would stop saying things like that. If he outplayed him, he would have won. It's really that simple.


he outplayed him during 15/17minutes...


Really? I just saw someone not expand, not tech, and not take advantage of things he could have. What game were you watching?
Little Tortilla Boy
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 11:25:54
February 07 2012 11:25 GMT
#1084
On February 07 2012 20:20 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


so how is it outplaying, if you do a bunch of "good moves", that have nothing to do with the particular game you are playing?
"Yeah, I outsmarted you. You thought I was bluffing, but I have 3kings!"
"You know we are playing Black Jack and not Texas Hold em?"

What are you talking about? He came out ahead of every engagement. If there was an efficient way to deny the planetary at the fourth he wins that game pretty handily (which is probably the purpose of that build). He made it close despite Taeja getting it up.

Taeja won, but that game was beyond frustrating. He basically got an upgrade advantage and a planetary up, continued to do nothing special and then Hyun died (no disrespect to Taeja, he's fantastic, he just could have played better).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1085
On February 07 2012 20:23 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:20 Big J wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


so how is it outplaying, if you do a bunch of "good moves", that have nothing to do with the particular game you are playing?
"Yeah, I outsmarted you. You thought I was bluffing, but I have 3kings!"
"You know we are playing Black Jack and not Texas Hold em?"


you're really bad at this game no ?
Positionning, engaging fights properly is the most important thing by far at this lvl, and Hyun did it way better than Taeja in game 2. Then he's clueless because I don't think he has many games where the T holds his 50+bling/ling push.


you're really frustrated, because none of your BW gods does superwell, aren't you?
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1086
I'm still disappointed about the last series. I think Hyun would have won decisively if he followed two rules:

1) Never build Ultras, especially if you are behind, ahead, or even.
2) If you have 1000+ spare gas and no infestation pit, build an infestation pit.
..Bears!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1087
On February 07 2012 20:23 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:20 Big J wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


so how is it outplaying, if you do a bunch of "good moves", that have nothing to do with the particular game you are playing?
"Yeah, I outsmarted you. You thought I was bluffing, but I have 3kings!"
"You know we are playing Black Jack and not Texas Hold em?"


you're really bad at this game no ?
Positionning, engaging fights properly is the most important thing by far at this lvl, and Hyun did it way better than Taeja in game 2. Then he's clueless because I don't think he has many games where the T holds his 50+bling/ling push.


Hyun certainly didn't engage better than Taeja in game 2. His positioning was excellent though (especially the defensive coverage that allowed him to hold his fourth on a map where it's notoriously hard to do so)
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1088
moletrap stream voice is overlapping with khaldor and wolf's
calin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia107 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1089
This is really annoying..being able to hear Moletrap in the background
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#1090
Actually scrap that LR plans. I might have to leave soon
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 07 2012 11:27 GMT
#1091
On February 07 2012 20:25 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:20 Big J wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


so how is it outplaying, if you do a bunch of "good moves", that have nothing to do with the particular game you are playing?
"Yeah, I outsmarted you. You thought I was bluffing, but I have 3kings!"
"You know we are playing Black Jack and not Texas Hold em?"

What are you talking about? He came out ahead of every engagement. If there was an efficient way to deny the planetary at the fourth he wins that game pretty handily (which is probably the purpose of that build). He made it close despite Taeja getting it up.

Taeja won, but that game was beyond frustrating. He basically got an upgrade advantage and a planetary up, continued to do nothing special and then Hyun died (no disrespect to Taeja, he's fantastic, he just could have played better).


he played a strong midgame composition and couldn't transition out of it. Teaja did the exactly right thing against it: sit the midgame out.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
February 07 2012 11:27 GMT
#1092
On February 07 2012 20:23 Seeker wrote:
Sculp
vs
YuGiOh

on ESV Cloud Kingdom

sculp at top right

YuGiOh at bottom left

First 15 minutes

so YuGiOh did this weird idiotic thing where he ran his roaches and lings in to the base of sculp, lost everything and gained nothing

Both players now just playing very standard
Sculp with BFH

YuGiOh getting up to 4 bases now

Sculp getting quite a nice number of vikings, shooting down overlords/overseers

YuGiOh ASKLDJFASDKFKL;ASDJFKLASDJFKL;AJSDKLFASDJKLF
THIS GAME IS SO DULL AND ACTIONLESS!!!!

Row row row your boat gently down the stream
Merrily merrily merrily merrily life is quite a dream!

Mary had a litttle lamb, little lamb, little lamb
Mary had a little lamb, (whatever the hell is the next line)

DAT SHARK!

15 - 20 minutes

YuGiOh moves in the Sculp's 3rd and hits it

Sculp lifts, YuGiOh backs off

YuGiOh morphing a fuckton of banes, getting ready to hit Sculp

Sculp moves in to YuGiOh's 4th and decides to take it down

Battle ensues

YuGiOh ROLLLLLLLLS Sculp's army and Sculp retreats

Sculp decides to attack YuGiOh's 4th again but fails

YuGiOh with a VERY NICE drop at Sculp's main
YuGiOh also took down Sculp's 3rd
YuGiOh killing EVERYTHING!!!

Sculp GGs

YuGiOh 1 - 0 Sculp
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 07 2012 11:27 GMT
#1093
baneling traps? i think they mean baneling trap cards
bisu
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
February 07 2012 11:27 GMT
#1094
On February 07 2012 20:25 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:20 Big J wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


so how is it outplaying, if you do a bunch of "good moves", that have nothing to do with the particular game you are playing?
"Yeah, I outsmarted you. You thought I was bluffing, but I have 3kings!"
"You know we are playing Black Jack and not Texas Hold em?"

What are you talking about? He came out ahead of every engagement. If there was an efficient way to deny the planetary at the fourth he wins that game pretty handily (which is probably the purpose of that build). He made it close despite Taeja getting it up.

Taeja won, but that game was beyond frustrating. He basically got an upgrade advantage and a planetary up, continued to do nothing special and then Hyun died (no disrespect to Taeja, he's fantastic, he just could have played better).


Hyun's problem was that he did nothing at all after delaying that 4th. He didn't get anywhere close to 3/3 or hive, which is just not gonna work 30 minutes into a game, ever.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
February 07 2012 11:28 GMT
#1095
Poll: Recommend YuGiOh vs Sculp Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
40%

No (2)
 
40%

If you have time (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend YuGiOh vs Sculp Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



y v s
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 11:29:32
February 07 2012 11:28 GMT
#1096
On February 07 2012 20:24 icecreamlolz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:20 Jehct wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:16 icecreamlolz wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:15 Inflicted_ wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 Jehct wrote:
One of those weird games where Hyun out-maneouvred his opponent (arguably outplayed) but didn't play strategically correctly. Can't do that style against MULE's and planetaries Hyun, you have to transition =(


Any weaker Terran, and HyuN would've rolled over them with that style. Perhaps that's why he believes it works so well and doesn't try to 'fix' it.

yeah hyun was just unlucky to face one of the few! terrans who go marine/tank against zerg. NoWay for him to see that coming.

What an awful fucking post. The style he was playing was a 'power build', much like Bomber's TvZ - you get a fast third and then play defensively, with fast-ish upgrades, until ~170 supply. You then push while trying to secure your fourth, reinforcing with as many disposable marines as possible and minimal tank/medivac, trying to conserve them instead.

It worked because Taeja played the map correctly and it's really hard for zerg to deny the planetary in the middle there.

Fuck you and your awful posts.


so much hate... i never went into strategical depth or something similar. i just said that staying on zergling/baneling + some mutas doesnt cut it without a transition out of it. its still no late game comp, doesnt matter how hard you try to push the baneling numbers and use flanks! and saying that he wouldve rolled almost every other terran with that style is just wrong.

why the insults?

Because you didn't do any of those things. If you were actually witty it'd be okay, but you posted an awful 1.5 liner in response to a legitimate post. I felt like I was reading "LOL YOUR WRONG" and it hurt my brain.

That, and you have like no real posts.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 07 2012 11:29 GMT
#1097
WTF bomber in code B ????
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 07 2012 11:29 GMT
#1098
Moletrap is an excellent solo-caster, please keep the whining to your inside-voice
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
February 07 2012 11:29 GMT
#1099
On February 07 2012 20:22 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 20:18 Maghetti wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:14 MCDayC wrote:
On February 07 2012 20:12 Maghetti wrote:
This shows how important game knowledge is. Think what a experienced sc2 zerg could do with 4k gas? lol

What the fuck does that mean? Hyun's been playing Starcraft long enough to know that banking 4k gas is terrible, and he knows that infestors, brood lords, Ultras exist. There's no excuse for mistakes like that.

I'm sorry, but that is obviously lack of experience. He came in with a plan without real knowledge on how to transition after it did damage. He has played barely 2 months. I expected play like this honestly. Strong mechanics but no idea what to do if he strays a little bit away from his game plan.


Are you kidding me? He was a pro gamer before he started SC2, I think he would understand strategy games enough to know that he should plan to transition after damage. Or maybe the coach he lives with would help him? Odds are he's ground out more games in these 2 months than most people have played on this site in 2 years.

Could it just be possible that Taeja was the far better player tonight?

Taeja was the far better player..that has nothing to do with anything. I was addressing why Hyun played the way he did. He clearly planned a big push and planned to win with it and didn't know how to transition out of it. Taeja is clearly a code S level terran with vastly superior game knowledge...thats why he won. But Hyun showed powerful mechanics and macro, just horrible game knowledge.
[EMP]ArtOfWar
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany69 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 11:30:06
February 07 2012 11:29 GMT
#1100
+ Show Spoiler +
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Am I the only one that sees the connection with Khaldor?[
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