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Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
February 08 2012 14:36 GMT
#421
What Killer is doing right now is the only applicable use of Ultra's basically, and it's similar to hydras in that it's one timing that's available in the game that make them decent.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 14:37:40
February 08 2012 14:37 GMT
#422
Killer is way better than he's given credit for.

Don't like his upgrade state for playing ultra though.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 08 2012 14:37 GMT
#423
On February 08 2012 23:37 Asha` wrote:
Killer is way better than he's given credit for.
Welcome to the SC2 community - where if you dont win every tournament you enter, you're awful.
#freeshauni
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 08 2012 14:38 GMT
#424
Rotterdam is great with the camera, didn't missed any drop so far.
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
February 08 2012 14:38 GMT
#425
holy shit that killer guy is going to take 2nd place if hes playing every game that way!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 08 2012 14:38 GMT
#426
I'd just like to say Rotterdam is an amazing observer. Seriously he's missing barely anything, this is korean-level obsing in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
February 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#427
Scratch what I said before, 2-1 is not a good upgrade state for Ultras...I don't know why he wouldn't go double evo if he's doing this build. Everything else has seemed good about his play except for that.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 14:40:22
February 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#428
On February 08 2012 23:26 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 23:15 MrCash wrote:
Okay, I was defending Bitter, but that was a pretty bad prediction about Darkforce throwing game away.
I'm so tired of people propagating this silly idea that Ultralisks are bad or only throw games away, especially by zerg players.
Learn to use the unit or watch Stephano, Darkforce and countless other top level zergs use the unit properly.

TB is also guilty of using this silly saying, just because destiny said it once... sigh...

Only 3 Terrans in tournament, going to be rooting for Demuslim in his matches.
Supernova should get past group stages... I hope.

No, they're terribad. They were talking about it on Inside The Game yesterday. You don't auto-lose, but they're basically not very good at all.


9 times out of 10, when Stephano as well as most top level zergs win with Ultra's they've already won.


And Darkforce almost did throw away that game.

No you are wrong. Stephano techs to Ultralisks as fast as possible and he needs them because he doesn't build any/a lot of banelings.

Darkforce didn't need Ultralisks in the game, but it's always good to have an army with Ultralisks if you can afford them, because you are not as depended on Banelings.

Also Darkforce didn't almost throw the game away, that was a horrible call by Bitter. He sniped the engineering bay and you can't defeat high upgraded Ultra/Ling/Infestor with 0/0 or 1/1 marines. There was no way Darkforce could have lost that and he played it super safe all the time.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#429
Why would you ever attack there?

btw: german stream is up
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 14:41:24
February 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#430
On February 08 2012 23:39 Megabuster123 wrote:
Scratch what I said before, 2-1 is not a good upgrade state for Ultras...I don't know why he wouldn't go double evo if he's doing this build. Everything else has seemed good about his play except for that.

You have to do it Stephano style(+1/+1 before lair, +2/+2 and +3+3 as soon as possible) imo
€
Don't charge into the main, just kill one of his expos
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#431
On February 08 2012 23:38 Shikyo wrote:
I'd just like to say Rotterdam is an amazing observer. Seriously he's missing barely anything, this is korean-level obsing in my opinion.

I can't vouche against him about spotting things, but his camera control is much, much shabbier than STLegend's. Can't blame him, though, Legend has Top 1 observing in all matchups.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#432
On February 08 2012 23:39 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 23:26 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 08 2012 23:15 MrCash wrote:
Okay, I was defending Bitter, but that was a pretty bad prediction about Darkforce throwing game away.
I'm so tired of people propagating this silly idea that Ultralisks are bad or only throw games away, especially by zerg players.
Learn to use the unit or watch Stephano, Darkforce and countless other top level zergs use the unit properly.

TB is also guilty of using this silly saying, just because destiny said it once... sigh...

Only 3 Terrans in tournament, going to be rooting for Demuslim in his matches.
Supernova should get past group stages... I hope.

No, they're terribad. They were talking about it on Inside The Game yesterday. You don't auto-lose, but they're basically not very good at all.


9 times out of 10, when Stephano as well as most top level zergs win with Ultra's they've already won.


And Darkforce almost did throw away that game.

No you are wrong. Stephano techs to Ultralisks as fast as possible and he needs them because he doesn't build any/a lot of banelings.

Darkforce didn't need Ultralisks in the game, but it's always good to have an army with Ultralisks if you can afford them, because you are not as depended on Banelings.
.
What the hell are you on about, ultralisks and banes work super well together if you upgrade properly. Anything is less dependent on banelings than lings.
#freeshauni
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#433
Killer playing so amazingly well.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#434
Both of those busts were effective. The first bust was needed to wipe the tanks so that the 2nd bust could happen.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#435
dKiller is playing very well <3
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#436
ultras so good, own everything. Mr. Bitter "unsieged tanks do so much damage"... wtf?
Toshirotl
Profile Joined January 2012
Portugal128 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#437
Supernova needs to switch to ghosts asap
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#438
On February 08 2012 23:41 Asha` wrote:
Killer playing so amazingly well.

He'd be in a much better spot had he not let a dozen infestors die a little while ago, but yeah.
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
February 08 2012 14:42 GMT
#439
killer plays really good but also nice defense by supernova
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 14:43:59
February 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#440
Ventral sacs for Killer. o:
Supernova finally getting to him though...
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