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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 02 2012 07:30 GMT
#121
MMA lost at Providence because Leenock has outstanding ZvT.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 02 2012 07:32 GMT
#122
On February 02 2012 16:30 Fionn wrote:
MMA lost at Providence because Leenock has outstanding ZvT.


DRG probably played a part in that as well. His ZvT is ok too

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Oh.Canada
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada139 Posts
February 02 2012 07:37 GMT
#123
GoGo MMA and OZ!
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 02 2012 07:41 GMT
#124
Actually I have an explanation for his victory at Columbus and his lacklustre result at Providence.

Looking at the predictions from the TL Preview threads:
Columbus:
Favorites:
1. ST_Bomber oGs.MC
2. Dignitas.NaNiwa
3. IM.Losira
4. ROOT.KiWiKaKi
5. SlayerS_MMA


Providence:
The Guy That Will Win: MMA


Clearly, ESPORTS gods are out to screw over TL predictions. Therefore SuperNova and Puzzle to advance today.
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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
February 02 2012 07:44 GMT
#125
MMA Supernova.
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
February 02 2012 07:45 GMT
#126
oz looks reliable in that pic
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10374 Posts
February 02 2012 07:50 GMT
#127
I'm hoping MMA and Puzzle.

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Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 07:52:55
February 02 2012 07:50 GMT
#128
On February 02 2012 16:18 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 16:09 Falconblade wrote:
On February 02 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:
On February 02 2012 14:51 bennyaus wrote:
Oz and Supernova - easily.
Puzzle is highly overrated, and MMA won't be OZ or Supernova in a prepared BoX match, in my opinion.


I could see why you could put Oz over MMA, but why Supernova over MMA in a prepared BoX match? I've always felt that over the past few months, MMA and Coach Ryu Won have been a near unstoppable force when it comes to preparation of strategies, with MMA beating MVP 4-1 in GSL October and 3-0 in the Blizzard Cup. If anything, I would say that having a prepared match helps MMA significantly, as he has performed very well under such circumstances.


This. MMA plays poorly in stuff like Providence where he has no time to prepare against an opponent, but he prepares extremely well against each player when given time. His builds are always meant to counter.


Which explains why he won in Columbus, came in second in Anaheim, won Kiev, and owns the Team League. Thank you.


It does? Can you explain why he was so poor at IPL getting 3-0ed by Lucky? He was in a spot of bother at Columbus a few times, but won despite killing his own orbital against Idra. Most of the competitors there were not Code S material, and he faced really only then top player in Losira. Who was the competition at Kiev? A bunch of players that might be Code B? He mentioned in an interview that he had a list of build orders for each map given to him by his Coach that he had practiced. He's such a preparation heavy player.

As a general rule he's a very good player, but he's a generally a great player when he prepares. Just take a look at how he beat MVP in GSL October. Most of those were planned builds and styles for each map to counter what Mvp would most likely be doing. Its his preparation that makes him so good at GSL and the like.

And honestly, GSTL? He's great in it, but in Bo1s? He cheesed Oz with a bunker against a nexus first last week. He's good at sniping, and generally a good player, but give him a sudden BoX vs. a truly top player, and his play level is markedly different in comparison to a prepared match. As much as I like him (and he's my favorite player), his results in GSTL are hardly the yardstick I use to measure his play.

And Fionn, do you not like MMA?
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
February 02 2012 07:50 GMT
#129
On February 02 2012 16:32 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 16:30 Fionn wrote:
MMA lost at Providence because Leenock has outstanding ZvT.


DRG probably played a part in that as well. His ZvT is ok too

>________>

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
ShadowGoliath
Profile Joined August 2011
United States44 Posts
February 02 2012 07:57 GMT
#130
Gogo MMA and Puzzle
SlayerS Hwaiting!!!!!!!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
February 02 2012 08:12 GMT
#131
This is gonna be an epic group.
QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
February 02 2012 08:13 GMT
#132
I'll be bold and say Oz and Puzzle. SuperNoVa might be figured out with his constant 111ing and MMA's PvT is not good at all. Puzzle and Oz on the other hand use creative all-ins but are still prone to and do very well in the late game while I feel is the 2 terran players downfalls. Only way I see terran winning/getting out of this group is using allins or SuperNoVa just 111ing... again.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
February 02 2012 08:13 GMT
#133
down with mma :[.

OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 02 2012 08:15 GMT
#134
On February 02 2012 16:50 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 16:18 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On February 02 2012 16:09 Falconblade wrote:
On February 02 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:
On February 02 2012 14:51 bennyaus wrote:
Oz and Supernova - easily.
Puzzle is highly overrated, and MMA won't be OZ or Supernova in a prepared BoX match, in my opinion.


I could see why you could put Oz over MMA, but why Supernova over MMA in a prepared BoX match? I've always felt that over the past few months, MMA and Coach Ryu Won have been a near unstoppable force when it comes to preparation of strategies, with MMA beating MVP 4-1 in GSL October and 3-0 in the Blizzard Cup. If anything, I would say that having a prepared match helps MMA significantly, as he has performed very well under such circumstances.


This. MMA plays poorly in stuff like Providence where he has no time to prepare against an opponent, but he prepares extremely well against each player when given time. His builds are always meant to counter.


Which explains why he won in Columbus, came in second in Anaheim, won Kiev, and owns the Team League. Thank you.


It does? Can you explain why he was so poor at IPL getting 3-0ed by Lucky? He was in a spot of bother at Columbus a few times, but won despite killing his own orbital against Idra. Most of the competitors there were not Code S material, and he faced really only then top player in Losira. Who was the competition at Kiev? A bunch of players that might be Code B? He mentioned in an interview that he had a list of build orders for each map given to him by his Coach that he had practiced. He's such a preparation heavy player.

As a general rule he's a very good player, but he's a generally a great player when he prepares. Just take a look at how he beat MVP in GSL October. Most of those were planned builds and styles for each map to counter what Mvp would most likely be doing. Its his preparation that makes him so good at GSL and the like.

And honestly, GSTL? He's great in it, but in Bo1s? He cheesed Oz with a bunker against a nexus first last week. He's good at sniping, and generally a good player, but give him a sudden BoX vs. a truly top player, and his play level is markedly different in comparison to a prepared match. As much as I like him (and he's my favorite player), his results in GSTL are hardly the yardstick I use to measure his play.

And Fionn, do you not like MMA?

bleh, I guess you probably dislike him anyway. MMA must be the best Terran in the world at the moment, he has no opponent in TvZ and TvT, and today he will prove that his TvP will be one of the best as well.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
February 02 2012 08:17 GMT
#135
On February 02 2012 17:15 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 16:50 Falconblade wrote:
On February 02 2012 16:18 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On February 02 2012 16:09 Falconblade wrote:
On February 02 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:
On February 02 2012 14:51 bennyaus wrote:
Oz and Supernova - easily.
Puzzle is highly overrated, and MMA won't be OZ or Supernova in a prepared BoX match, in my opinion.


I could see why you could put Oz over MMA, but why Supernova over MMA in a prepared BoX match? I've always felt that over the past few months, MMA and Coach Ryu Won have been a near unstoppable force when it comes to preparation of strategies, with MMA beating MVP 4-1 in GSL October and 3-0 in the Blizzard Cup. If anything, I would say that having a prepared match helps MMA significantly, as he has performed very well under such circumstances.


This. MMA plays poorly in stuff like Providence where he has no time to prepare against an opponent, but he prepares extremely well against each player when given time. His builds are always meant to counter.


Which explains why he won in Columbus, came in second in Anaheim, won Kiev, and owns the Team League. Thank you.


It does? Can you explain why he was so poor at IPL getting 3-0ed by Lucky? He was in a spot of bother at Columbus a few times, but won despite killing his own orbital against Idra. Most of the competitors there were not Code S material, and he faced really only then top player in Losira. Who was the competition at Kiev? A bunch of players that might be Code B? He mentioned in an interview that he had a list of build orders for each map given to him by his Coach that he had practiced. He's such a preparation heavy player.

As a general rule he's a very good player, but he's a generally a great player when he prepares. Just take a look at how he beat MVP in GSL October. Most of those were planned builds and styles for each map to counter what Mvp would most likely be doing. Its his preparation that makes him so good at GSL and the like.

And honestly, GSTL? He's great in it, but in Bo1s? He cheesed Oz with a bunker against a nexus first last week. He's good at sniping, and generally a good player, but give him a sudden BoX vs. a truly top player, and his play level is markedly different in comparison to a prepared match. As much as I like him (and he's my favorite player), his results in GSTL are hardly the yardstick I use to measure his play.

And Fionn, do you not like MMA?

bleh, I guess you probably dislike him anyway. MMA must be the best Terran in the world at the moment, he has no opponent in TvZ and TvT, and today he will prove that his TvP will be one of the best as well.


His TvT does not look that unstoppable except when he plays MVP.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
February 02 2012 08:18 GMT
#136
what happeneed to this format,

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302767

looks 50 times better imo
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fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
February 02 2012 08:19 GMT
#137
On February 02 2012 16:50 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 16:18 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On February 02 2012 16:09 Falconblade wrote:
On February 02 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:
On February 02 2012 14:51 bennyaus wrote:
Oz and Supernova - easily.
Puzzle is highly overrated, and MMA won't be OZ or Supernova in a prepared BoX match, in my opinion.


I could see why you could put Oz over MMA, but why Supernova over MMA in a prepared BoX match? I've always felt that over the past few months, MMA and Coach Ryu Won have been a near unstoppable force when it comes to preparation of strategies, with MMA beating MVP 4-1 in GSL October and 3-0 in the Blizzard Cup. If anything, I would say that having a prepared match helps MMA significantly, as he has performed very well under such circumstances.


This. MMA plays poorly in stuff like Providence where he has no time to prepare against an opponent, but he prepares extremely well against each player when given time. His builds are always meant to counter.


Which explains why he won in Columbus, came in second in Anaheim, won Kiev, and owns the Team League. Thank you.


It does? Can you explain why he was so poor at IPL getting 3-0ed by Lucky? He was in a spot of bother at Columbus a few times, but won despite killing his own orbital against Idra. Most of the competitors there were not Code S material, and he faced really only then top player in Losira. Who was the competition at Kiev? A bunch of players that might be Code B? He mentioned in an interview that he had a list of build orders for each map given to him by his Coach that he had practiced. He's such a preparation heavy player.

As a general rule he's a very good player, but he's a generally a great player when he prepares. Just take a look at how he beat MVP in GSL October. Most of those were planned builds and styles for each map to counter what Mvp would most likely be doing. Its his preparation that makes him so good at GSL and the like.

And honestly, GSTL? He's great in it, but in Bo1s? He cheesed Oz with a bunker against a nexus first last week. He's good at sniping, and generally a good player, but give him a sudden BoX vs. a truly top player, and his play level is markedly different in comparison to a prepared match. As much as I like him (and he's my favorite player), his results in GSTL are hardly the yardstick I use to measure his play.

And Fionn, do you not like MMA?


Didn't MMA (and the other Slayers Terrans) lose to Lucky just because he kept doing Roach Baneling all ins? I don't remember Lucky playing a long game against MMA. I'm not saying Lucky is bad or cheesy since it was a good move to do that in a time when those Terrans were all being super economically greedy, but still you shouldn't just take the score and conclude MMA sucks or something.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 02 2012 08:19 GMT
#138
MMA is a beast, but as you can tell from the MVP haters coming out of the woodwork people don't like success, people would rather root for the underdog. It's really sad when good players get a negative backlash as an irrational response to their success.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 02 2012 08:20 GMT
#139
Okay...MMA/Supernova I think...artosis u better be right this time!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
February 02 2012 08:22 GMT
#140
On February 02 2012 17:18 L3g3nd_ wrote:
what happeneed to this format,

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302767

looks 50 times better imo

Really? Okay. I'll keep it in mind. But since you went to vent about your personal opinions, I will vent mine.

My threads as they are now are 100x better.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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