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MVP looks so tired today.
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Wow, that one drop of MVP did so much damage, prevented 3rd and stayed alive for so long.
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Yonnua wrote:
Bear in mind, even if MVP wins this, he has to get back through Gumiho, who he lost to 2-0 just a couple of hours ago.
cuz the jacket was on
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Mvp has the best tank marine based TvZ in the world, kinda surprised he went mech game 1 when almost no zerg can handle his tank/marine.
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On February 01 2012 21:21 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 21:20 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:19 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:16 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:14 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2012 21:11 jjmmtt wrote:
MVP should stop his reactor hellion crap, it's not him and it doesn't really do too much anymore. When MVP just goes marine, tank, medivac into viking, ghost, he kills everyone. Not sure if serious? I hope you know Reactor Hellion is (one of) the standard opening(s) in TvZ... It is but it's not doing anything in the pro scene, MVP isn't doing well with it and hasn't done anything significant with it. Just saying. I mean, it works for BoxeR and others but MVP's style, he dominates when he does what he normally does. not sure if serious. reactor hellion is the best opening right now. and even when people 1rax expo its immediately into reactor hellion. the amount of control it gives you and the possibility for early third is amazing. It really doesn't give you that (free) third, Zerg just hit mutas at that time and shut it all down by then. Yes, you have the orbital up but they just ruin the hellions out on the map, the third getting any scv saturation etc. Hellions take SOOO much time away from everything else. So what if it is standard? It's being countered HEAVILY by pro zergs atm, by speed zerglings mainly. i suggest you watch more TvZ. I watch every game I can. So make an actual argument please.
i have no idea what to say to you cause all youre arguments are wrong LOL. if its being heavily countered right now why is it THE TvZ build? why does EVERY terran do it?
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
Nah 3rd place goes to Code A
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The chokes on this map are so bad!
Counter-attacking always seems to work badly vs good Terrans!
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
No he doesn't.
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On February 01 2012 21:20 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 21:19 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:16 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:14 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2012 21:11 jjmmtt wrote:
MVP should stop his reactor hellion crap, it's not him and it doesn't really do too much anymore. When MVP just goes marine, tank, medivac into viking, ghost, he kills everyone. Not sure if serious? I hope you know Reactor Hellion is (one of) the standard opening(s) in TvZ... It is but it's not doing anything in the pro scene, MVP isn't doing well with it and hasn't done anything significant with it. Just saying. I mean, it works for BoxeR and others but MVP's style, he dominates when he does what he normally does. not sure if serious. reactor hellion is the best opening right now. and even when people 1rax expo its immediately into reactor hellion. the amount of control it gives you and the possibility for early third is amazing. It really doesn't give you that (free) third, Zerg just hit mutas at that time and shut it all down by then. Yes, you have the orbital up but they just ruin the hellions out on the map, the third getting any scv saturation etc. Hellions take SOOO much time away from everything else. So what if it is standard? It's being countered HEAVILY by pro zergs atm, by speed zerglings mainly. uh what? speed zerglings don't counter reactor hellion opening.
Yeah, it does. 1 Spine and a few speed zerglings, what are hellions going to do? Control watch towers. So what? Zerg goes to mutas instantly and gets free muta reign then denies the third, like I pointed out. Even Queens can counter hellions. It's just not doing anything anymore, except for preventing fast 3rds from zerg, which doesn't matter because the Terran hasn't teched at all.
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
No, he goes to Code A as well... only top 8 is guaranteed to stay
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
nooo... he doesn't
only Ro8 stay in Code S
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On February 01 2012 21:19 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 21:16 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:14 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2012 21:11 jjmmtt wrote:
MVP should stop his reactor hellion crap, it's not him and it doesn't really do too much anymore. When MVP just goes marine, tank, medivac into viking, ghost, he kills everyone. Not sure if serious? I hope you know Reactor Hellion is (one of) the standard opening(s) in TvZ... It is but it's not doing anything in the pro scene, MVP isn't doing well with it and hasn't done anything significant with it. Just saying. I mean, it works for BoxeR and others but MVP's style, he dominates when he does what he normally does. not sure if serious. reactor hellion is the best opening right now. and even when people 1rax expo its immediately into reactor hellion. the amount of control it gives you and the possibility for early third is amazing. It really doesn't give you that (free) third, Zerg just hit mutas at that time and shut it all down by then. Yes, you have the orbital up but they just ruin the hellions out on the map, the third getting any scv saturation etc. Hellions take SOOO much time away from everything else. So what if it is standard? It's being countered HEAVILY by pro zergs atm, by speed zerglings mainly.
But zerg committing to 2 base muta puts them behind more than they want, and reactor hellion doesn't but you behind at all, that's why it's so common, you can use the fac to build more reactors for more barracks or immediately start tank production and switch with a rax to amp up rine production, it also begins your tech so you can go anywhere from there
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On February 01 2012 21:21 L3g3nd_ wrote:
tasteless's gg calls are spot on this game
multiple calls in one game? His gg calls are spot on every game....almost
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On February 01 2012 21:21 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 21:20 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:19 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:16 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:14 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2012 21:11 jjmmtt wrote:
MVP should stop his reactor hellion crap, it's not him and it doesn't really do too much anymore. When MVP just goes marine, tank, medivac into viking, ghost, he kills everyone. Not sure if serious? I hope you know Reactor Hellion is (one of) the standard opening(s) in TvZ... It is but it's not doing anything in the pro scene, MVP isn't doing well with it and hasn't done anything significant with it. Just saying. I mean, it works for BoxeR and others but MVP's style, he dominates when he does what he normally does. not sure if serious. reactor hellion is the best opening right now. and even when people 1rax expo its immediately into reactor hellion. the amount of control it gives you and the possibility for early third is amazing. It really doesn't give you that (free) third, Zerg just hit mutas at that time and shut it all down by then. Yes, you have the orbital up but they just ruin the hellions out on the map, the third getting any scv saturation etc. Hellions take SOOO much time away from everything else. So what if it is standard? It's being countered HEAVILY by pro zergs atm, by speed zerglings mainly. i suggest you watch more TvZ. I watch every game I can. So make an actual argument please.
There are pros who still win games flat out using reactor hellion
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Mvp really seems to be a bit off... he queued his Combat Shields again and mass stimmed his marines to ward off mutas. He was one of the first guys to stim only the front few marines, but kept stimming his whole marine bunch. Also upgrades were really late, he didnt focus fire tanks on banelings..
I dunno, it just feels really weird.
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
No, only top 8 stays. He goes to up n downs I think
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Actually, I feel that MVP won against curious in the last game entirely because he plays terran.
User was warned for this post
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On February 01 2012 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:If Gumiho loses he stays in Code S.
Nope, he will go to RO24 and from there to code S or to up and down
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On February 01 2012 21:22 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 21:21 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:20 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:19 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:16 andaylin wrote:On February 01 2012 21:14 jjmmtt wrote:On February 01 2012 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On February 01 2012 21:11 jjmmtt wrote:
MVP should stop his reactor hellion crap, it's not him and it doesn't really do too much anymore. When MVP just goes marine, tank, medivac into viking, ghost, he kills everyone. Not sure if serious? I hope you know Reactor Hellion is (one of) the standard opening(s) in TvZ... It is but it's not doing anything in the pro scene, MVP isn't doing well with it and hasn't done anything significant with it. Just saying. I mean, it works for BoxeR and others but MVP's style, he dominates when he does what he normally does. not sure if serious. reactor hellion is the best opening right now. and even when people 1rax expo its immediately into reactor hellion. the amount of control it gives you and the possibility for early third is amazing. It really doesn't give you that (free) third, Zerg just hit mutas at that time and shut it all down by then. Yes, you have the orbital up but they just ruin the hellions out on the map, the third getting any scv saturation etc. Hellions take SOOO much time away from everything else. So what if it is standard? It's being countered HEAVILY by pro zergs atm, by speed zerglings mainly. i suggest you watch more TvZ. I watch every game I can. So make an actual argument please. i have no idea what to say to you cause all youre arguments are wrong LOL. if its being heavily countered right now why is it THE TvZ build? why does EVERY terran do it?
Maybe because before zergs figured out how to defend it, it insta-won games. Now zergs know and it's become useless? That seems obvious.
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