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power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
February 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2581
Whats with the MMA hype. He won't even get out of his group. He'll lose to the 2 protosses in this group and will only have a slight edge over supernova
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2582
On February 02 2012 09:24 yawnoC wrote:
Man at the end it really looked like Mvp was ready to start crying


yep getting 4-1ed by the person he chose
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 02 2012 00:51 GMT
#2583
On February 02 2012 09:45 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 09:24 yawnoC wrote:
Man at the end it really looked like Mvp was ready to start crying


yep getting 4-1ed by the person he chose


This is the saddest I've been because of starcraft in a long time, lol. At least when he fell to Leenock in November he played amazing games and nobody could bash him, but today he just seemed frustrated and didn't play up to his standards. I have no doubts that he will show his skills once again and silence the haters, skill like he had doesn't just disappear overnight, but the next few weeks are going to be very disappointing without MVP playing.
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Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
February 02 2012 01:15 GMT
#2584
i thought MVP played an amazing game towards the end on cloud kingdom vers curious i really recomend ppl checxk this game out. artosis gave me a really good insight into mvps possible thought process and this little gem seems so obvious and will help my play a lot.

for those who want to know the gem
+ Show Spoiler +
even tho mvp was losing he was doing a beautiful job of spreading his army and constantly chipping away at curiouses econemy. even tho curious had a far superiour army mvp was trying to destory curious ability to remake the army and just micro really well against it to hopefully get a decent trade so he could stop it and force his pressence back on the map.
Esports is killing Esports.
Kogutz
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil117 Posts
February 02 2012 01:32 GMT
#2585
Glad MVP lost. Thanks god. :D No moar fanboy love.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
February 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#2586
On February 02 2012 06:10 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 06:00 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP got the easiest group yet he doesn't advance. His last GSL win was the one before blizzcon yet people were still calling him the best lol.


For pretty much the whole of last year, MVP was undeniably the best player in the world for a consistent period.

He lost in one group. Big fucking deal. Nobody else bar MMA (who is really looking dodgy with the Return of Protoss to GSL) is even in the running for the title.

Until he loses for more than 1 month and somebody else can take up his mantle, I don't care what Waxy says: MVP still No.1


People say that Oz has some of the best PvT in the world. He beats MMA 3-2 in a series where MMA was sick. MMA has crappy TvP.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 02 2012 02:10 GMT
#2587
On February 02 2012 04:39 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 03:39 Fourn wrote:
The supposed best player in the world should not get knocked out in the Ro16.


If that were always the case, wouldn't the world be rather boring?


I think the real significance of MVP dropping to Code A is:

Maybe he isn't the best player in the world anymore, or at the moment.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
February 02 2012 02:14 GMT
#2588
On February 02 2012 11:10 Chunhyang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 04:39 ]343[ wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:39 Fourn wrote:
The supposed best player in the world should not get knocked out in the Ro16.


If that were always the case, wouldn't the world be rather boring?


I think the real significance of MVP dropping to Code A is:

Maybe he isn't the best player in the world anymore, or at the moment.



MVP is still maybe the best player in the world. But he is nowhere near "hands down" the best player in the world like some people have been saying. He has been losing too much for that.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 02 2012 02:54 GMT
#2589
On February 02 2012 11:14 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 11:10 Chunhyang wrote:
On February 02 2012 04:39 ]343[ wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:39 Fourn wrote:
The supposed best player in the world should not get knocked out in the Ro16.


If that were always the case, wouldn't the world be rather boring?


I think the real significance of MVP dropping to Code A is:

Maybe he isn't the best player in the world anymore, or at the moment.



MVP is still maybe the best player in the world. But he is nowhere near "hands down" the best player in the world like some people have been saying. He has been losing too much for that.


I think he is still probably the best in the world but there's no doubt that the tip top of the korean scene is getting very crowded lately. The skill gap between players in the ro16 is razor thin for the most part and mvp can't just roll over players by playing his b game like he used to. Very exciting time, hope mvp comes back in top shape next season to silence the haters and anti-hype train that is picking up steam
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foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
February 02 2012 02:56 GMT
#2590
I love when underdog wins.. happy with the results.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 02 2012 03:19 GMT
#2591
MVP is obviously feeling extremely frustrated - he had the "easiest" group and losing 4-1 to Gumiho (someone he chose) must make him feel terrible. That being said, the 2 best players on the night did qualify so there was no qualms about it.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
February 02 2012 04:26 GMT
#2592
On February 02 2012 09:02 KillAudio wrote:
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On February 02 2012 04:57 dekarp wrote:
I think a lot of people are missing the real point here:

No more MVP?

MKP wins this GSL season. Calling it right here right now.

If he manages to get out the group of death. :p


all 4 of these groups are quite strong/close tbh
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Fourn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Greece227 Posts
February 02 2012 06:28 GMT
#2593
On February 02 2012 09:22 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 09:05 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 08:41 rysecake wrote:
On February 02 2012 07:32 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 04:44 Asha` wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:39 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:27 Odoakar wrote:
I just can't get excited for GSL when players like MVP keep droping to code A:|


This.

The supposed best player in the world should not get knocked out in the Ro16.

At least we still have MC, Nestea, and MMA to look forward to.


Unless I'm missing something this is only the second time MVP has been knocked out of a tournament short of the Ro4 since the end of July 2011 (the other being the first AoL event that no one seemed to take seriously).

In the meantime he was:

MLG anaheim champ
gsl august champ
gsl october runner up
blizzcon champ
mlg korean invitational champ
mlg providence top 4
AoL team ace champ
gsl november top 4
WCG korea champ
WCG champ
Blizzard cup top 4

pretty insanely consistent.


Ok, cool.

He still shouldn't have gotten knocked out of this group, losing 2 Bo3's to a guy with a 47% TvT win rate.


obviously mvp sucks now

/stupidity


I looked several times, but could you tell me where in my posst I said MVP sucks?

The post I originally quoted was about how MVP being makes the tournament less exciting, I wasn't saying that MVP is bad.

Yes, the best player in the world getting knocked out in the Ro16, IN MY OPINION, should not happen and when it does it makes the tournament less exciting and brings up the question if he still is the best player in the world.

Hop off my dick please, I wasn't saying MVP sucks.


It would take a lot more than that to bring his consistency as the top player into question.. Flash didn't make every semifinals that he entered but nobody would consider placing another player at the top of Brood War. There are players that can take games and even sets off of him but it takes more than that to dethrone him from the top especially considering him obviously playing below his standard.



Comparing MVP to Flash would be like comparing the St. Louis Cardinals to the New York Yankees.

Yea, the Cardinals have 11 World Series wins, but the Yankees have fucking 27.

The point is, MVP's reign is no where near as impressive as Flash's.
A man chooses, a slave obeys
alpinefpOPP
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States134 Posts
February 02 2012 06:30 GMT
#2594
MVP is a great player sad to see him lose, he's still the best in the sc2 world in my eyes.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 02 2012 06:33 GMT
#2595
The most awesome thing is that GuMiho made it out. The reason this is significant is because pretty much everyone at the group selections was going to pick him first, saying he was the easiest. The fact that he stuck it to MVP is just awesome.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
February 02 2012 07:11 GMT
#2596
Doesn't MVP have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome on both wrists? Right now it's fucking cold in Korea and CTS usually gets worse with cold weather. It would have certainly screwed with his practice schedule
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
February 02 2012 07:15 GMT
#2597
On February 02 2012 16:11 Lann555 wrote:
Doesn't MVP have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome on both wrists? Right now it's fucking cold in Korea and CTS usually gets worse with cold weather. It would have certainly screwed with his practice schedule


They all have wrist problems.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
February 02 2012 07:35 GMT
#2598
you get worse before you get better.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 02 2012 08:37 GMT
#2599
On February 02 2012 15:28 Fourn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 09:22 zefreak wrote:
On February 02 2012 09:05 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 08:41 rysecake wrote:
On February 02 2012 07:32 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 04:44 Asha` wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:39 Fourn wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:27 Odoakar wrote:
I just can't get excited for GSL when players like MVP keep droping to code A:|


This.

The supposed best player in the world should not get knocked out in the Ro16.

At least we still have MC, Nestea, and MMA to look forward to.


Unless I'm missing something this is only the second time MVP has been knocked out of a tournament short of the Ro4 since the end of July 2011 (the other being the first AoL event that no one seemed to take seriously).

In the meantime he was:

MLG anaheim champ
gsl august champ
gsl october runner up
blizzcon champ
mlg korean invitational champ
mlg providence top 4
AoL team ace champ
gsl november top 4
WCG korea champ
WCG champ
Blizzard cup top 4

pretty insanely consistent.


Ok, cool.

He still shouldn't have gotten knocked out of this group, losing 2 Bo3's to a guy with a 47% TvT win rate.


obviously mvp sucks now

/stupidity


I looked several times, but could you tell me where in my posst I said MVP sucks?

The post I originally quoted was about how MVP being makes the tournament less exciting, I wasn't saying that MVP is bad.

Yes, the best player in the world getting knocked out in the Ro16, IN MY OPINION, should not happen and when it does it makes the tournament less exciting and brings up the question if he still is the best player in the world.

Hop off my dick please, I wasn't saying MVP sucks.


It would take a lot more than that to bring his consistency as the top player into question.. Flash didn't make every semifinals that he entered but nobody would consider placing another player at the top of Brood War. There are players that can take games and even sets off of him but it takes more than that to dethrone him from the top especially considering him obviously playing below his standard.



Comparing MVP to Flash would be like comparing the St. Louis Cardinals to the New York Yankees.

Yea, the Cardinals have 11 World Series wins, but the Yankees have fucking 27.

The point is, MVP's reign is no where near as impressive as Flash's.


I'm not sure who you are making this point to, considering I never said that MVP was as impressive as Flash. My point was that when Flash gets knocked out of a tournament before the semifinals nobody brings his skill into question, and nobody asks if Flash is still the best player in the world. People seem to realize that even the best player in the world will have his off days and poor performances and that this doesn't constitute a 'slump'.

MVP isn't as impressive as Flash but then again nobody is. MVP is the closest to Flash's domination that starcraft 2 has. The gap between MVP and MMA DRG etc isn't as big as exists in BW but it takes a large sample size of results to figure out where people are skillwise and MVP's results speak for themselves.

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