EPTya, well at the time idra easily destroyed the air attacks and had a nice counter into Avenge's expo...and then idra threw unupgraded lings into a bunch of FF and +2 zealots while rallying in individual mutas vs pheonixs...
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Sub40APM
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ya, well at the time idra easily destroyed the air attacks and had a nice counter into Avenge's expo...and then idra threw unupgraded lings into a bunch of FF and +2 zealots while rallying in individual mutas vs pheonixs... | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
...roaches, lings, spines and infestors (just lings and spines until other tech kicks in). | ||
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arChieSC2
Spain162 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:25 Sambobly wrote: Can someone explain the muta decision to me? I'm no ZvP expert, but it seems like he just needed to crush the classic 2 base timing to win that thing. Assuming it's not masochistic, the idea is that if a Protoss is on two base if you get mutas out you basically cannot lose. You have the economy and production to crush anything they do and they absolutely cannot ever take a third. Perhaps it was a giant misread, when someone is doing a +2/blink/phoenix all-in, you don't make mutalisks. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 Whynaut wrote: He was expecting a robo followup, probably after last game. He also had no ovies in position to scout due to hte phoenixes so he had to guess what avenge was doing. He scouted the council with his ling runby | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 Let it Raine wrote: mutas op right! they beat everything right! protoss players lol really? lol. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 Let it Raine wrote: mutas op right! they beat everything right! protoss players lol Not when you play like that.. | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 theBizness wrote: No more free spots in GSL please. This. putting foreigners in the GSL is just replacing a better player with a worse one. | ||
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noxn
65 Posts
mutas are fine against everything protoss has, especially with such a low phoenix count. if he held off that attack, he would have had more than enough gas to just overpower anything avenge could make. I don't know why idra didn't make some roaches | ||
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
Infestor/Ling ? Oder maybe try to engage him before he is close enough, to make him waste FF energy. | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
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Sigmur
Poland497 Posts
I was watching Losira's games earlier and even though he lost aswell, he played better than greg imo. | ||
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 Whynaut wrote: He was expecting a robo followup, probably after last game. He also had no ovies in position to scout due to hte phoenixes so he had to guess what avenge was doing. he scouted the twilight | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
scouts stargate game 2 = goes mutas I really dont understand why he PICKS the units his opponent counters? even after scouting it? wow | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:25 Sambobly wrote: Can someone explain the muta decision to me? I'm no ZvP expert, but it seems like he just needed to crush the classic 2 base timing to win that thing. It was terrible and caused his loss, simply put. The guy was going stargate into blink timing, mutas in that situation make no sense. They are fine if you can hold a faster 2base timing from protoss like 4gate +1 with or without void rays, but against what Avenge was doing they plain suck. I guess Idra expected him to take a third rather than allin, or thought the mutas would come out in time to pin protoss back and avoid the allin altogether, but im not sure. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On January 31 2012 20:26 Montana[TK] wrote: i knew he was gonna lose when he went muta idra isn't smart enough to go muta in ZvP and ive seen him rage losing with that alot on his stream. He just wanted to use it again because everyone started crying "muta imba" again. Better to go with the bruteforce roach/hydra, fits him better LOL @ "Brute force roach/Hydra"  | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
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