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On January 31 2012 20:58 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:56 cyclone25 wrote: Who said protoss can't comeback from terrible starts vs zerg? He was never as far behind as this thread made him out to be. After the dts failed he was down a base and 20 supply which is a fairly standard PvZ midgame
He was down 30 supply, which is only standard vs roaches. Terious didn't have a single roach and was 30 supply head soley from mutalisks.
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On January 31 2012 20:57 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:56 Teoita wrote:On January 31 2012 20:54 Teoita wrote:On January 31 2012 20:52 Teoita wrote:On January 31 2012 20:51 Teoita wrote:On January 31 2012 20:50 Asha` wrote:On January 31 2012 20:48 Teoita wrote:On January 31 2012 20:48 Asha` wrote: cOre goes triple nexus without confirming a CC at ForGG's nat.
ForGG is going cloak banshees and a 1/1/1 all in.
Really terrible series from cOre. Oh. You take on from here? :D naw, I wasn't LR or anything Teo, just commenting on how stupid cOre is playing =p That said I tabbed over to the Huk game...maybe it's just Protoss =p Oh ok. So on to me: Banshees kill infinity probes; with scv pull 111 timing for ForGG. 60 to 40 army supply, looks terrible for Core. Natural goes down, bunkers go up at the natural. A tank and a banshee killing the third; a few marines are left in core's main who now has 10 probes left. 14.00: forGG has lost one army but taken out 2 nexi and Core's economy, second weave coming soon together with a cc. Supply is like 37 to 81. 16.00: forGG getting upgrades for his marines after expanding, Core tries to expand. Another banshee comes in, scouts the nexus but doesn't do any more damge. 68 workers killed for forGG lol. 19.00: second timing from forGG comes in Core's natural, he has twice the army. Core gg's and i learn that i suck at live reporting. 2-0 for forGG
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LOL that stats!
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bad memories on this map for huk
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On January 31 2012 20:55 MorroW wrote: a 3 base protoss is ok vs any number of zerg bases - wolf
wise words right there
I mean that's quite logical though. You can't saturate optimally more than 3 bases anyway. As long as you're on 3 bases, max from there and continue taking bases to never fall under 3 base saturation you're fine. But as I understand it as Zerg you kinda need those 8+ gas, so :/
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On January 31 2012 20:59 Tarotis wrote: I somehow feel he will go DT's again...:D
Inca mode engaged.
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Huk hasn't won on this map at all....
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On January 31 2012 20:59 KiNGxXx wrote:LOL that stats! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/To7V9.jpg)
LOL, looks the same to me
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On January 31 2012 20:58 minhbq299 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:56 iamthedave wrote:On January 31 2012 20:55 Headnoob wrote: Huk plays the worst game i've seen him play and still wins.
wow Well, Idra did say the match is unwinnable for Zerg... And let us never forget that match with Nestea. Really, it's just that 3 base Toss can so easily roll Zerg armies and bases if they're left to their own devices. BB needed either more upgrades on his mutas or just more mutas to pull that one off. He was losing too many trying to break the door down. you should see how stephano, dongraegu, coca play against equally base toss.. dont take word of a sore loser like idra. Coca's the only one there with truly domineering ZvP. And we haven't seen him play in quite a while.
Stephano and DRG just have solid ZvP. They'll beat Protoss, but top tier protoss kind of shit on their faces from what I recall.
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Now this is a muta map, way more than the last one. He shouldn't have gone mutas on a map where protoss basicly get a free third, without having to extend himself at all. Gonna be interesting to see what Terious goes for now..
Oh and edit: This map is horrible either way
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Just say no to DT's Huk. Please!
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On January 31 2012 20:59 CaptainCharisma wrote: Idra: "Zerg isn't supposed to beat Protoss right now".
P.S. Idra, you got raped by 2 zergs in code S as well.
Well you see, ZvZ is just retarded/coin flippy.
And Terran is of course overpowered. IdrA got every base covered.
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On January 31 2012 20:58 minhbq299 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:56 iamthedave wrote:On January 31 2012 20:55 Headnoob wrote: Huk plays the worst game i've seen him play and still wins.
wow Well, Idra did say the match is unwinnable for Zerg... And let us never forget that match with Nestea. Really, it's just that 3 base Toss can so easily roll Zerg armies and bases if they're left to their own devices. BB needed either more upgrades on his mutas or just more mutas to pull that one off. He was losing too many trying to break the door down. you should see how stephano, dongraegu, coca play against equally base toss.. dont take word of a sore loser like idra. DRG's zvp isn't paticularly that good to be honest, but he is one of the best we have got now. Kind of sad zerg doesn't really have ONE big good ZvP player
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On January 31 2012 20:58 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 20:56 Mithridates wrote:On January 31 2012 20:55 xrapture wrote: Huk was utterly outplayed that game. How can you say that when Huk won like that? Besides the DTs Huk played fine dont forget the zealots he lost
They dont matter he denied the third and ninja expand they did their job. SOURCE: Im a protoss
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On January 31 2012 20:59 CaptainCharisma wrote: Idra: "Zerg isn't supposed to beat Protoss right now".
P.S. Idra, you got raped by 2 zergs in code S as well.
One of the Zergs being Nestea, the other being a sick player as well. IdrA had that series won but misread his opponent game 2 and got allinned game 3 with a shit ton of roaches. Can't really fault him for his play against Lucky.
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GOM player so laggy, god damn i hate it so much.
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Why do they still have this map TT
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On January 31 2012 20:57 Dagobert wrote: I must say I'm amused to see IdrA try so hard and lose and see HuK do so many things wrong and win.
(of course that's not to say IdrA didn't make mistakes or that HuK didn't make some correct choices)
I haven't watched much ZvP lately but from these games it seems appropriate. Zerg seems to have very little room to mess up where Protoss can easily fall back on 3 bases and turtle through any screwups. I thought Protoss were saying PvZ was really hard now, is it because of this ling/muta style?
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lol
0-5 on crossfire 5-0 after winning first set
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That's going to be quite the breakable wall
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