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Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
February 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#661
On February 01 2012 12:36 Bagration wrote:
Did Doa or Cats mention what is tommorrow's match?


Liquid vs. CoLMVP, if I recall correctly.
No relation to Monsieur J.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
February 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#662
On February 01 2012 12:22 Huggerz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:30 turamn wrote:
GG. Time to send out the ace, incontrol


Cannot stop laughing

Hilarious... or not. Why are people douches to people who are awesome and nice? Sheesh. Grow up.

On topic.. I'm surprised JYP won a PvT.. maybe he is improving there...
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
February 01 2012 03:39 GMT
#663
On February 01 2012 12:31 jyLee wrote:
ForGG proving mechanics > strategy.

Yeah and GSL proving strategy > ForGG's mechanics

Uh yeah, no surprises here. Would say I was impressed that EG got 2 wins, but then you look at who got those two wins...
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
February 01 2012 03:39 GMT
#664
LOL 38% of the people thought EG was going to win? HAHAHA ...
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
February 01 2012 03:40 GMT
#665
On February 01 2012 12:37 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:22 Huggerz wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:30 turamn wrote:
GG. Time to send out the ace, incontrol


Cannot stop laughing

Hilarious... or not. Why are people douches to people who are awesome and nice? Sheesh. Grow up.

On topic.. I'm surprised JYP won a PvT.. maybe he is improving there...


Who is a douche ? lol...

It was a joke, so I laughed too. How can Inc be an ace.

I wish he would tho.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
February 01 2012 03:41 GMT
#666
Why didn't EG play Huk? I mean Old generations probably still would've won but maybe they would have a better chance of winning one or two more games with Huk.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 01 2012 03:41 GMT
#667
On January 31 2012 04:42 KinQuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 04:33 Talionis wrote:
On January 31 2012 04:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Inca all-kill. ^^

EG won't know what hit 'em.

Yeah because they dont have detection.


Holy balls, did I ever rofl!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 01 2012 03:43 GMT
#668
On February 01 2012 12:36 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:33 tuho12345 wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:27 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:24 tuho12345 wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:05 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:03 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:48 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:46 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:38 Whatson wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:37 Olinimm wrote:
[quote]
I said MLG. please read what I actually say. Thanks.

Oops..you get the gist. Inori PvP > HuK and HerO PvP.

Since when are HuK and HerO considered the top PvPers who we are going to compare another player to in order to determine "the best." Inori has a weird style of PvP. MC, Oz, and Puzzle all have much better PvP than anybody else. InCa is gimmicky, Inori has a weird almost unexplored style (when he first came out at IPL I don't think that MC has much experience playing against it), HerO and HuK actually aren't as good as other players, and frankly the only people left are players like Oz, Puzzle, JYP, MC, and the like. PartinG is also really, good as I see a lot of people are completely failing to mention him.


On February 01 2012 11:35 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:32 Olinimm wrote:
[quote]
PROVIDE AN ARGUMENT.


i just saw your posts in MC's fan club..

i understand you,you are a fanboy.

its hard to accept but MC sucks at PvP.

That's a terrible argument. MC is a force to be reckoned with. Who has he lost to in PvP? He lost to HuK, but they both know each other's styles so well that that doesn't really represent much of their "skill." If you're just going to troll, get off TL and stop posting retarded comments like "MC sucks at PvP."

He lose to MaNa and out of ESWC.

he lose to HuK and get 2nd place at MLG.

he lose to Inori and out of IPL.

he lose to NaNiWa and out of HomeStoryCup 3.

im not trolling.


Do you notice what is similar about every single one of those events? They weren't in Korea. He's flying around the world and loses to people who have been going on complete tears.

MaNa didn't lose a single game to Socke or Grubby either, he was playing the best PvP of his life.

As I said, HuK and MC know each other's play styles through and through, that means that it's less of a PvP because there's a completely new element that is racing through both of their minds.

Inori's play style is really odd, and MC had probably never pracitced against that style before IPL. I don't think that any of the top tier players felt comfortable against that style. Plus, Inori could have watched all of MC's VODs, where would MC find VODs of Inori exactly??

NaNiwa has fantastic PvP, if losing to NaNiwa makes you bad at a match-up (especially at a foreigner tournament), are Mvp and NesTea both bad vP?

So MC loses to jetlag in a match-up that is the most micro-intensive. That's cool. He's 25-8 in PvP in Korea. When MC plays his best, nobody beats him in PvP. Stop posting.

when korean loses online= lag

when korean loses offline = jetlag

TLPD isnt everything,im still saying PvP is MC's weakness.

Well then care to explain why his PvP winrate is still so fucking high??? Remember MC played more competitive game than almost any SC2 Koreans.

because he won a lot when 4 gate working?

So what, both players can 4 gates each others if they want, and MC has superior micro compare to the others and he won. Are you going to say that 4 gates wins don't count ?

im saying 4 gate currently not working like in the past.

MC's PvP since IPL 3/GSL super tournament 20/17,which is pretty poor for best PvP or top 3 PvP player lol..

.

He lost to HuK, Inori and HongUn. All good players, does that make him bad? No. Why? b/c he could beat them when he's on his top form easily, and plz compare him at a better time, not when he was having a slump.
MC's weakness is PvZ when he could lost to a no name like Monster and some random Zergs.
But not PvP, period.
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
February 01 2012 03:43 GMT
#669
On February 01 2012 12:10 SC2NeCro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:09 Bagration wrote:
Looks like VileIllusion and oGsIllusion are tied in wins so far in this tournament...how fitting.


Latter is still far better.


I kinda think its hard to judge for both of these players, as they are still pretty unknown and haven't had a large amount of results to go by. And looking at both player's TLPD pages, you can't say either one is way better than the other, as both have had many impressive victories.
crydee
Profile Joined October 2011
92 Posts
February 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#670
Idra handled the lings very well, he had proper timing on the lair and evo, he should of put down a spore, most would. He also had the overlord in sac position to see cloak position, but he didn't do taht.

Illusion was floating 1K+ during the helion attack and ended up losing a lot of helions to lings in middle ect..

He just didn't sac that overlord, keep the middle to see banshees coming, or put down 1 spore or build overseer when lair popped. He still could of won the game, seen better comebacks.

Not sure why they decided to go with Machine instead of Huk though...
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
February 01 2012 04:10 GMT
#671
On February 01 2012 12:41 Lewan72 wrote:
Why didn't EG play Huk? I mean Old generations probably still would've won but maybe they would have a better chance of winning one or two more games with Huk.


He's currently living in the oGs house. Probably had a lot to do with it.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
February 01 2012 04:14 GMT
#672
On February 01 2012 13:10 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:41 Lewan72 wrote:
Why didn't EG play Huk? I mean Old generations probably still would've won but maybe they would have a better chance of winning one or two more games with Huk.


He's currently living in the oGs house. Probably had a lot to do with it.


He moved out from the Slayers house and went back to OGS house.

I think you may be mistaken. Idra and Huk where both living in Slayers as last I've heard.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 04:17:41
February 01 2012 04:15 GMT
#673
OMG I MISSED THIS! WOW

VODS?

please tell me theres a way for me to watch this right now....
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
February 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#674
On February 01 2012 13:10 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:41 Lewan72 wrote:
Why didn't EG play Huk? I mean Old generations probably still would've won but maybe they would have a better chance of winning one or two more games with Huk.


He's currently living in the oGs house. Probably had a lot to do with it.



really???
why not slayers House?
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 01 2012 04:34 GMT
#675
On February 01 2012 13:10 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:41 Lewan72 wrote:
Why didn't EG play Huk? I mean Old generations probably still would've won but maybe they would have a better chance of winning one or two more games with Huk.


He's currently living in the oGs house. Probably had a lot to do with it.


Huk should just rejoin Liquid already...
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 01 2012 04:39 GMT
#676
On February 01 2012 12:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:31 jyLee wrote:
ForGG proving mechanics > strategy.

Yeah and GSL proving strategy > ForGG's mechanics

Uh yeah, no surprises here. Would say I was impressed that EG got 2 wins, but then you look at who got those two wins...


MVP proving both > all.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
February 01 2012 05:17 GMT
#677
On February 01 2012 12:36 Clank wrote:
disappointing result for EG. I thought that they had a chance and if not, the series would actually be close. For some reason EG always seems to play worse in team leagues, not sure why though. You'd think with such a stacked roster they would have better team results, but I guess individual success isn't an exact translation to team league format.


If you compare their opponents in oGs I think they did as well as could be hoped for really.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
February 01 2012 05:20 GMT
#678
LoL @ EG's decision to put up Machine vs StC... Well its not surprising that game ended in 7 minutes.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
February 01 2012 05:21 GMT
#679
On February 01 2012 14:17 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:36 Clank wrote:
disappointing result for EG. I thought that they had a chance and if not, the series would actually be close. For some reason EG always seems to play worse in team leagues, not sure why though. You'd think with such a stacked roster they would have better team results, but I guess individual success isn't an exact translation to team league format.


If you compare their opponents in oGs I think they did as well as could be hoped for really.

This! I'm not really sure why so many expected EG to win. I mean Idra is good but his mindset is meh and he hasn't been playing his best. HuK has unfortunately been in a pretty big slump and JYP is terrible vs T which oGs has an abundance of. IMO their only chance was if maybe Puma could pull out a miracle and all kill.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
February 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#680
On February 01 2012 13:39 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:31 jyLee wrote:
ForGG proving mechanics > strategy.

Yeah and GSL proving strategy > ForGG's mechanics

Uh yeah, no surprises here. Would say I was impressed that EG got 2 wins, but then you look at who got those two wins...


MVP proving both > all.
Amen to that.
My impression of JYP v fOrGG = fOrGG making a bunch of units, attacking. Then making a whole bunch of units, then attacking. Then making a Looooot of units, then attacking. All of his attacks were only moderately well executed. The drops ran at a massive deficit. The attack up the ramp was quite weak imo. Dunno why JYP didn't have the army to crush it. I guess 1 colossi would have done the job.
but yea, irresistible macro can sometimes overwhelm your opponents lol
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