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[IPL] FC8: Nerchio vs Jjakji - Page 32

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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 29 2012 12:31 GMT
#621
yeah it's online but still pretty impressive by nerchio
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
January 29 2012 12:35 GMT
#622
I thought it's gonna be 5:1 at best, and what a nice suprise i got so see

It's funny how people from Americas somehow tried to disregard Nerchio's good result.
"they played on EU ?, not showing builds, terrible maps, whatever else..."

The score says it all. It was BO9 so it's hard to blame entire serises on luck or other things.
Don't be an ass and be happy that the gap between EU and KR isn't big enough like in BW times.
We got to see nice series with two excellent players and excellent games.

I'm sorry that NA don't have that many top players.
Instead of trying to disregard Nerchio's achievements, why don't you engage yourself more into your scene by organising and playing more online cups, get your friends to try out SC2. Just be more competitive, like Sheth for example.

P.S. I'm sure results could be different if Nerchio wouldn't have to study most of his time.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 29 2012 12:39 GMT
#623
On January 29 2012 21:35 5ukkub wrote:
I thought it's gonna be 5:1 at best, and what a nice suprise i got so see

It's funny how people from Americas somehow tried to disregard Nerchio's good result.
"they played on EU ?, not showing builds, terrible maps, whatever else..."

The score says it all. It was BO9 so it's hard to blame entire serises on luck or other things.
Don't be an ass and be happy that the gap between EU and KR isn't big enough like in BW times.
We got to see nice series with two excellent players and excellent games.

I'm sorry that NA don't have that many top players.
Instead of trying to disregard Nerchio's achievements, why don't you engage yourself more into your scene by organising and playing more online cups, get your friends to try out SC2. Just be more competitive, like Sheth for example.

P.S. I'm sure results could be different if Nerchio wouldn't have to study most of his time.

It's not only Americas, it's just people who know that there is indeed a skill gap between KR and EU.
No matter how well you do against a korean in an online match, that doesn't mean anything really, the conditions are far too suboptimal.
WriterMaru
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
January 29 2012 12:46 GMT
#624
Congrats on a great performance Nerchio, well done.
Baptista
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland141 Posts
January 29 2012 12:49 GMT
#625
They played all their games on NA because Nerchio's nick at NA is Desanir.
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
January 29 2012 12:53 GMT
#626
Nerchio always has really high apm, and strong mechanics - sadly his not streaming often. People forget that players like MaNa or Nerchio are studying and unable to dedicade fully to sc2 like IdrA, Huk, SaSe, NaNi not even mentioning korean pros. So 5-4 with GSL champion it is impressive even if online. And both and had lags, and errors due to it.
oh in the sun sun having fun
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 29 2012 12:55 GMT
#627
On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1
SaSe fan club manager
alepoff
Profile Joined January 2012
140 Posts
January 29 2012 12:58 GMT
#628
I only watched first 4 maps, it was getting late (/early :p). How was the rest of the games? Did nerchio stop the infestor abuse after 4th map? Or did jj just figure it out?
let's bounce
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 29 2012 13:07 GMT
#629
lol I thought Nerchio won based on how defensive people have been!
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DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:31:25
January 29 2012 13:19 GMT
#630
fOrGG ♦ Creator
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
January 29 2012 13:21 GMT
#631
On January 29 2012 21:55 Choboo wrote:
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On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1


lmao then what the heck's that make mvp?
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 29 2012 13:24 GMT
#632
On January 29 2012 22:21 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 21:55 Choboo wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1


lmao then what the heck's that make mvp?
mvp sucks he is like code b level LOL.
#freeshauni
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
January 29 2012 13:30 GMT
#633
On January 29 2012 22:24 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 22:21 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 21:55 Choboo wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1


lmao then what the heck's that make mvp?
mvp sucks he is like code b level LOL.

if hes code B level i dont think anyone in code S deserves a spot O.O
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 29 2012 13:37 GMT
#634
On January 29 2012 22:19 DirtyCash wrote:
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On January 29 2012 22:07 DamageControL wrote:
lol I thought Nerchio won based on how defensive people have been!


Same lol. Everybody should be happy to see foreigners able to hold their own but its always a torrent of buttpain. zzz

I tend to root for Koreans, but people need to stop shouting LAG every time. Instead why not point out that Jjaki won 4 of the last five. Why was that btw? Did he just figure out nerchio? Or...
Liquid | SKT
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
January 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#635
On January 29 2012 22:37 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 22:19 DirtyCash wrote:
On January 29 2012 22:07 DamageControL wrote:
lol I thought Nerchio won based on how defensive people have been!


Same lol. Everybody should be happy to see foreigners able to hold their own but its always a torrent of buttpain. zzz

I tend to root for Koreans, but people need to stop shouting LAG every time. Instead why not point out that Jjaki won 4 of the last five. Why was that btw? Did he just figure out nerchio? Or...


If you check the results in the OP, wins were rather exchanged till the last game.
Figuring out might be partially true due to Nerchio's infestors, coz Koreans tend to use banes.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
January 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#636
On January 29 2012 22:37 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 22:19 DirtyCash wrote:
On January 29 2012 22:07 DamageControL wrote:
lol I thought Nerchio won based on how defensive people have been!


Same lol. Everybody should be happy to see foreigners able to hold their own but its always a torrent of buttpain. zzz

I tend to root for Koreans, but people need to stop shouting LAG every time. Instead why not point out that Jjaki won 4 of the last five. Why was that btw? Did he just figure out nerchio? Or...


i dont think it was the case. Nerchio didnt use ultras till it was 3-1 for him and once he used BL he did win again. Last game was on ST which is horrible for zerg still Nerchio was holding pretty long.
oh in the sun sun having fun
QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
January 29 2012 14:01 GMT
#637
On January 29 2012 13:21 devPLEASE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
On January 29 2012 13:04 The Final Boss wrote:
Just out of curiosity, has anybody else been really unimpressed by these games? Generally I'm excited going into an ace match, but with the way these two have been playing and the map (Shattered Temple) I just cannot be excited about this...

I have not been particularly happy either. Perhaps my expectations are biased, though: Nerchio played better than I thought, but Jjakji just seemed offline. Again, Jjakji is not the most consistent/solid/clean player, but he usually knows better than staying on marine/tank for twenty minutes and then going "ooops 15 broodlords, guess I just lose now".


That's because of two things.
1. jjakji was lagging.
2. jjakji wasn't even trying. That was probably like 0.00001% of his skill when compared to the games vs. Leenock or Sen.


Wow, I thought I was biased because of nationality but what you are saying is 0 credit to Nerchio, i suggest you shut the hell up before talking shit about players and making retarded excuses for others. Damn it sorry, people like you make me so angry.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 14:10:19
January 29 2012 14:02 GMT
#638
On January 29 2012 22:21 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 21:55 Choboo wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1


lmao then what the heck's that make mvp?

I'm sorry but MVP is not near MMA in neither achievements (since recent GSL titles are way harder to get than at the time MVP won) nor skill-level but maybe he's #2 but I still think Jjakji plays better than MVP recently

For reference:

MMA vs MVP

That and out of the last 3 GSL competitions MMA won 2 of them
SaSe fan club manager
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 15:47:33
January 29 2012 15:44 GMT
#639
On January 29 2012 23:02 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 22:21 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 21:55 Choboo wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:12 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 20:11 Choboo wrote:
wow second best korean in the world vs nerchio only 5-4 I'm impressed!


wasnt aware that Nerchio was playing MMA.

mma is #1


lmao then what the heck's that make mvp?

I'm sorry but MVP is not near MMA in neither achievements (since recent GSL titles are way harder to get than at the time MVP won) nor skill-level but maybe he's #2 but I still think Jjakji plays better than MVP recently

For reference:

MMA vs MVP

That and out of the last 3 GSL competitions MMA won 2 of them


You really do talk some crap.

MVP has won 3 GSL's, Blizzcon, MLG Anaheim, WCG.

He's also made the finals of a GSL, and the semi finals of two other GSL's and the final of a Code A.

MVP is easilly the best player in the world.

Jjakji on the other hand has won one GSL, ever. That is it.

Jjakji's isn't even in the worlds top 5 best players.

He's behind MVP, MMA, DRG, Nestea, Leenock and MC.

One tournament does make you the best player in the world. I like Jjakji and his play but he got so unbelievable lucky with his bracket last Code S. He dodged most of the worlds best players except for MVP (who he lost to) and Leenock and got a free pass through the second group stage because of the Coca drama. He barely beat Oz (a good up and comer but not an absolutely top player) and then beat Leenock in the final. Aside from the Nestea win where he dodged every Terran except Ensnare it was the easiest ever path to winning Code S ever. Even in this season he drew two of the worst players in Code S (other candidates include Yugioh, Zenio and Idra) in Boxer and Sen and then almost lost to Boxer anyway while Ganzi completely stomped him.

Jangbi is not BW's best Protoss, Stephano was never the worlds best Zerg and Thorzain was never the worlds best Terran. You need consistency over several months and multiple achievements to reach that level, you also need to beat the other best players around. The only other players Jjakji has beaten in the top six is Leenock.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
January 29 2012 15:59 GMT
#640
good showing by Nerchio, looking forward to the next series
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