On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.

I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist. There's a reason guys like Huk, Jinro, Idra and Naniwa have just flat out refused to play online tournaments because of the lag.

I love how you say that Jjakji is going to win somewhere around 5-1 or 5-2 when you know he is playing for the korean server...

On January 27 2012 07:04 Seraphone wrote:
Jjakji is obviously going to win this but I think Nerchio will take a game or two. It's pretty hard to win a best of 9 without losing a single game.

And then when Nerchio plays well you just fall back on the lag issue. You're just making yourself look like an idiot. You are saying...

On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:

I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist.

Oh? You mean, yourself? You predicted Jjakji easily winning when you knew he was playing from Korea, but NOW it is a valid excuse? Come on. Either you think it isn't a big enough issue that Jjakji can crush him anyway, or you shouldn't have made such a prediction (and then get defensive about it with the following comments) if you apparently knew it was an issue.

Oh you silly boy. Perhaps you would care to read the countless comments from pro's on the topic who state that A) Lag is very different depending on which pro house you're playing from and B) The lag is really unpredictable, some days it will be okay and others it's borderline unplayable.

For example everyone knows the IM house has unplayable lag to the extent Nestea won't play online and Fenix refused to play NASL 2 after a few rounds.

OGS on the other hand is regarded as having one of the better connections.

"Silly boy"? If you are going to make an argument, make an argument and do not resort to ad hominem attacks.

Erm what?

When making an argument, it is very counter productive to begin by insulting the other person, as it makes them less receptive to your viewpoint. Just saying.

Seraphone

United Kingdom1219 Posts

January 29 2012 01:57 GMT

#225

On January 29 2012 10:55 AzoriuS wrote:

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It looks like this showmatch for you and your friends is worthless because in your minds Nerchio already lost no matter what score will be at the end.

The biggest loser is the viewer because we are denied a genuine match that we would get on LAN or with both players playing from the same place.

MrCon

France29748 Posts

January 29 2012 01:58 GMT

#226

Nerchio with the smart builds

The Final Boss

United States1839 Posts

January 29 2012 01:58 GMT

#227

On January 29 2012 10:52 Eppa! wrote:

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But his play his really really good, he dismantled Zenio. Its is very methodical and he has great unit control and versatility.

Zenio's ZvT is pretty terrible, but I think that Jjakji's TvZ is super good. It's far from the best (that goes to either Mvp, MMA, or SuperNoVa) but it's really entertaining to watch. When he doesn't have to deal with this lag, he has some of the best bio control I've ever seen.

Also, anyone denying lag's role in this, those Hellions took 3 seconds in between their seeing the roaches and turning around. Jjakji is Code S. That doesn't happen if you're Code S.

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

January 29 2012 01:58 GMT

#228

Marauders are so absurdly good against Roachs.

Diomedes7

67 Posts

January 29 2012 01:59 GMT

#229

Jjakji's micro seems sub-par compared to what I have seen in November.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

January 29 2012 01:59 GMT

#230

On January 29 2012 10:52 Eppa! wrote:

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But his play his really really good, he dismantled Zenio. Its is very methodical and he has great unit control and versatility.

What people need to understand is just like cross server events are good achievements (even with lag) it is not the main game type either player practices for.

Obviously it's top tier quality, but I just don't understand how we put one great series > months and months of continued sucess in the MU. (MVP and MMA)

Also, using Zenio in an attempt to justify amazing TvZ isn't all that telling

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

January 29 2012 01:59 GMT

#231

Oh wow Nerchio up 2-0 O.o

Azhrei16

United States284 Posts

January 29 2012 02:00 GMT

#232

From the results I could find, Jjakji is 6-4 against Zergs in the GSL. 0-2 Zenio, 2-0 Luvsic, 2-0 Lucky, 0-2 Leenock, 4-2 Leenock. That's it. Need to hold off before we can say this guy has "amazing!" TvZ.

WigglingSquid

5194 Posts

January 29 2012 02:00 GMT

#233

Jjakji seems to be having a bad day (or suffering too much from the lag). He has never been the cleanest terran, but he is uncharacteristicly sloppy today.

True_Spike

Poland3429 Posts

January 29 2012 02:01 GMT

#234

No lag this game!

Pulimuli

Sweden2766 Posts

January 29 2012 02:02 GMT

#235

well that was a wierd win for jjakji

Phobbers

773 Posts

January 29 2012 02:02 GMT

#236

Nerchio teched and powered his gas income a tad bit too much there.

Seraphone

United Kingdom1219 Posts

January 29 2012 02:02 GMT

#237

On January 29 2012 11:00 Azhrei16 wrote:
From the results I could find, Jjakji is 6-4 against Zergs in the GSL. 0-2 Zenio, 2-0 Luvsic, 2-0 Lucky, 0-2 Leenock, 4-2 Leenock. That's it. Need to hold off before we can say this guy has "amazing!" TvZ.

The Zenio game was from well over a year ago. Not really relevant.

In the last few months he's shown fantastic TvZ.

Letall

Sweden384 Posts

January 29 2012 02:03 GMT

#238

Pretty bad build coming from nerchio, it really seemd like he just improvised and threw something at Jjakji, he'd been better of going completly all-in.

Seraphone

United Kingdom1219 Posts

January 29 2012 02:03 GMT

#239

On January 29 2012 11:01 True_Spike wrote:
No lag this game!

There was definitely still lag. Jjakji's micro was awful he just had too much stuff to lose. For example he didn't even micro his hellions at all in the big engagement.

xsnac

Barbados1365 Posts

January 29 2012 02:04 GMT

#240

On January 29 2012 10:37 StarVe wrote:
Nerchio played too many games against Goody to fall to mech. :D

do you rly compare jakji to goody ? "the guy that gets supply block every 25 seconds and have 5/5 queue units in rax" even mc sad goody has horrible macro @ hsc